Italian States Mod, Version2.03, Final update.

[RexImperator]

Personally I would lump all the Swiss/German/Wallon regiments together and call them Fanteria Oltremontana and give them whichever uniform you like the look of best, that way you could cover your bases without having to include several different regiments. That is if you were to include them at all.

[♔Pom♔]

Is a very nice mod but... ther's a way that not change totally the language in game? i don't want to play in english!

Thank you Simone I, I've never tried changing the language myself, the man to ask would be Swiss Halberdier here, http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=340442, he's off line at the moment, but when he's bavk he may be able to help

Top quality , as usual
I think that Modene guard fusilier should have a silver braid on their tricorns.


Some more picture about venice :

• Dragoni a Cavallo : 1721-1755
• Dragoni a Cavallo : 1755-1781
• Reggimento Muller (swizzeri) : 1717 - Fusilier
• Reggimento Muller (swizzeri) : 1717 - Grenadier
• 1° Reggimento del Principe d'Otting (alemanni) : 1715 - Fusilier
• 1°Reggimento del Principe d'Otting (alemanni) : 1715 - Grenadier
• 1°Reggimento del Principe d'Otting (alemanni) : 1715 - Musician
• Battaglione Farnese (Truppe di Parma) : 1740 - Fusilier (the other uniform was the same than Italian infantry).
• Bombardiere : around 1750

I'll organize all the picture into plates this week-end.

About Swiss and German units, if you do them, I think they should be available only in the very early part of the game.
They were not very good and served only few years (1715 to 1720).

Thanks wangrin, just checked and your right, I missed the braid on the hat, will amend, I look forward to your info.

Personally I would lump all the Swiss/German/Wallon regiments together and call them Fanteria Oltremontana and give them whichever uniform you like the look of best, that way you could cover your bases without having to include several different regiments. That is if you were to include them at all.

I think Venice will have enough variety not to need the Swiss or Germans, I think their foreign troops are likely to be from the Balkans, but will review this nearer the time.

[TheGeat]

Thanks wangrin, not too far to go for the Papal States, grenadier, Modena Guard and guard grenadier, wanted a change from the Swiss.
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I like the Modena units, however don't underestimate the pope and his swizz guard

[wangrin]

Plates (VENICE) :
1. Italian infantry
2. Cernide and Craine (provincial infantry)
3. Fanteria Oltramarina
4. Cavalleria Oltramarina
5. Corazziere and Dragoni a cavallo
6. Artillery and Bombardieri
7. Foreign infantry (Oltramontani and Forrestiere)
8. Carabinieri and Alabardieri
10. Annexe 1

VENETIAN ROSTER : what do you think about ?

GUARD :
1. CARABINIERI : Mounted unit. replace general lifeguards. (plate 08)
2. ALABARDIERI : Unique guard unit. only able to recruit in venice.
3. GUARDIA NOBILE VERONESE : Unique guard unit. (plate 08)

ELITE :
1. "REAL VENETIA" regiment : same uniform as others italian infantry regiments. Maybe add frogging to their uniform ? (plate 01)
4. ARSENALOTTI (reggimento all'Arsenal) : elite (considered as artillery ?)

INFANTRY :
1. ITALIAN INFANTRY : granatieri, fucilieri, cacciatore. About cacciatore, maybe give them the late italian infantry uniform (the 1777 or the 1788 one) (plate 01)
2. OLTRAMARINE INFANTRY : fanteria oltramarine. Both line and light infantry abilities. Used as marine infantry for vessels and galleons. AOR : Balkan, Greece, Venice. (plate 03)
3. FORRESTIERE INFANTRY (Foreign Italian Infantry) : battaglione Farnese (Truppe di Parma). AOR Italy (plate 07)
4. OLTRAMONTANE INFANTRY (Foreign infantry) : Swiss and German infantry (plate 07)

PROVINCIAL INFANTRY
1. CERNIDE : better than militia. AOR : italy (plate 2)
2. CRAINE : better than milicia. AOR : balkans (plate 2)

CAVALRY
1. CORAZZIERE : heavy cavalry. 1 to 3 units max. (plate 5)
2. DRAGONI A CAVALLO : dragoons. (plate 5)
3. CROATI A CAVALLO : good light cavalry. AOR Balkans and venice. Able to shoot when mounted ? (plate 4)
4. CIMARIOTTI : greek light cavalry. AOR greece. 1 to 2 units max. (plate 4)

ARTILLERY
1. REGGIMENTO ARTIGLIERE : modern artillery (available after artillery reform technology). (plate 06)
2. BOMBARDIERI AGGREGATE ALL'ARTIGLIERIA DA CAMPAGNA : early artillery and mortars. (plate 06)
3. BOMBARDIERI : infantry units with order bonus. (plate 06)

NAVY
1. Galleons officer (plate 10, first picture)
2. Vessel officer (plate 10, first picture)

It's possible to add some auxiliaries units (plate 10).

[D.Sebastian]

Nice plates wangrin Will you make one about the guard units? (Alabardieri, Carabinieri, Real Veneto regiment)

[wangrin]

So, I though I've ended with Venice.
Next... maybe some "Repubblica Cisalpina" troops

[D.Sebastian]

Do you have the scans of the venetian army book? If so, would it be possible for you to post them as you did with the previous italian states?

[♔Pom♔]

I like the Modena units, however don't underestimate the pope and his swizz guard

Thank you TheGeat.

Plates (VENICE) :
1. Italian infantry
2. Cernide and Craine (provincial infantry)
3. Fanteria Oltramarina
4. Cavalleria Oltramarina
5. Corazziere and Dragoni a cavallo
6. Artillery and Bombardieri
7. Foreign infantry (Oltramontani and Forrestiere)
8. Carabinieri and Alabardieri
10. Annexe 1

VENETIAN ROSTER : what do you think about ?

GUARD :
1. CARABINIERI : Mounted unit. replace general lifeguards. (plate 08)
2. ALABARDIERI : Unique guard unit. only able to recruit in venice.
3. GUARDIA NOBILE VERONESE : Unique guard unit. (plate 08)

ELITE :
1. "REAL VENETIA" regiment : same uniform as others italian infantry regiments. Maybe add frogging to their uniform ? (plate 01)

INFANTRY :
1. ITALIAN INFANTRY : granatieri, fucilieri, cacciatore. About cacciatore, maybe give them the late italian infantry uniform (the 1777 or the 1788 one) (plate 01)
2. OLTRAMARINE INFANTRY : fanteria oltramarine. Both line and light infantry abilities. Used as marine infantry for vessels and galleons. AOR : Balkan, Greece, Venice. (plate 03)
3. FORRESTIERE INFANTRY (Foreign Italian Infantry) : battaglione Farnese (Truppe di Parma). AOR Italy (plate 07)
4. OLTRAMONTANE INFANTRY (Foreign infantry) : Swiss and German infantry (plate 07)

PROVINCIAL INFANTRY
1. CERNIDE : better than militia. AOR : italy (plate 2)
2. CRAINE : better than milicia. AOR : balkans (plate 2)

CAVALRY
1. CORAZZIERE : heavy cavalry. 1 to 3 units max. (plate 5)
2. DRAGONI A CAVALLO : dragoons. (plate 5)
3. CROATI A CAVALLO : good light cavalry. AOR Balkans and venice. Able to shoot when mounted ? (plate 4)
4. CIMARIOTTI : greek light cavalry. AOR greece. 1 to 2 units max. (plate 4)

ARTILLERY
1. REGGIMENTO ARTIGLIERE : modern artillery (available after artillery reform technology). (plate 06)
2. BOMBARDIERI AGGREGATE ALL'ARTIGLIERIA DA CAMPAGNA : early artillery and mortars. (plate 06)
3. BOMBARDIERI : infantry units with order bonus. (plate 06)

NAVY
1. Galleons officer (plate 10, first picture)
2. Vessel officer (plate 10, first picture)

It's possible to add some auxiliaries units (plate 10).

Just superb as usual wangrin, lots of "salt" here, looking forward to starting Venice next, hope to have a release for the Papal States in the next couple of days.

[wangrin]

Thanks Pom

Do you have the scans of the venetian army book? If so, would it be possible for you to post them as you did with the previous italian states?

I've only scanned most of plates, but not all the book : far more pages than Uniformi militari italiane del settecento and smaller size, so, not easy to scan without damaging the book.
I'll try, if I've some time.

[RexImperator]

Don't forget the Arsenalotti!

I'm such a pest.

[wangrin]

Yes, you're right. Sorry

[♔Pom♔]

Ok people, Papal States release, my normal thanks must go to wangrin and RexImperator who have continued to do stirling work on the research side, especially wangrin.
Screens below,
DOWNLOADS ON FRONT PAGE.

I've just noticed that I've missed the horse blankets, will pick them up on the next update.
The light infantry are based on some Austrian Grenz, no historical basis for them, just been looking for an excuse to do them.
Hope you enjoy.

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Papal and Modena Guard.

Line and Militia.

Mercenary Light Infantry.

Guard Lancers and dragoons.

Horse and Militia Horse.

Artillery

[wangrin]

The Pom's touch : top quality as always !
This is a very great mod ! Thanks !

Do you think you could add a line infantry unit to papal states (white uniform, blue facings) and make the one you've already done a elite unit (the white uniform with red facings was, I think, the corsican regiment uniform, wich was a good in fantry unit) ?
I really like the light infantry. They are great with the new hat (same as late Venetian unit, it seems).

[RexImperator]

Love the release, though I do wish the striped Swiss Guards were there but I understand why they weren't included...I feel like a child sometimes.

Looking forward to Venice! +Rep!

As for the Corsican Guards, they were disbanded in the mid 1600s.

[T.Lexx]

Thanks Pom for your mod.
I´ve a new problem with the description of the units- genoa and savoy works- but not the papal states (F.i. "Nostre signore")- any idea?

[♔Pom♔]

The Pom's touch : top quality as always !
This is a very great mod ! Thanks !

Do you think you could add a line infantry unit to papal states (white uniform, blue facings) and make the one you've already done a elite unit (the white uniform with red facings was, I think, the corsican regiment uniform, wich was a good in fantry unit) ?
I really like the light infantry. They are great with the new hat (same as late Venetian unit, it seems).

That shouldn't be a problem, not sure if I'll add another elite unit, probably just leave leave them with two line units, the light infantry did work well, quite a simple one to do but came out ok.

Love the release, though I do wish the striped Swiss Guards were there but I understand why they weren't included...I feel like a child sometimes.

Looking forward to Venice! +Rep!

As for the Corsican Guards, they were disbanded in the mid 1600s.

Thanks Rex, sorry about your guards, maybe this will make up for it a little,

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Cardinal General.

Not perfect, cloaks don't work well on horseback, but otherwise ok.
Custom battle only, just for the fun of it.

Thanks Pom for your mod.
I´ve a new problem with the description of the units- genoa and savoy works- but not the papal states (F.i. "Nostre signore")- any idea?

Thanks T.Lexx, if your problem is that "Nostre signore" is what appears then thats right, I will admit that I wander around the globe a bit with my names depending on my mood or what I think sounds good.
sorry about that.
If no names are appearing then check to ensure you have the UCP from my mod installed.Any other problems let me know

[ToonTotalWar]

Pom - unit card for Regiment of Horse is missing for papal states? papal_horse is not within the icon cards? thanks and great release mate +Rep

[wangrin]

As for the Corsican Guards, they were disbanded in the mid 1600s.

I speak about "Battaglione de' Corsi" (white uniform with red facings, Etats Pontificaux - Infanterie - planche 1).
It could be considered as a better than others line infantry unit.

[ToonTotalWar]

Pom - made the Pap Horse cards if you wish to use them

[MorganH.]

Congrats on the latest release of the Papal states my friend;excellent work as allways ! +rep(in 24)