How to lose alcholic trait?

[.:Zack Fair:.]

I have a very good general that has took this crappy trait..how can I help him to lose it without any cheat?

[Seleukos_I.]

Open th console and typ in:
remove_trait name of your general drink.

[HolyDevil]

he said without any cheat...

to be honest, I think the way this trait is assigned is too random or too fast, so i always remove it...
but I supose that if you don't have any kind of brothel, or any buildings in that tree, should help, but to actually remove such a trait, i don't know

look at honga total war, see what triggers it, i would look it for you, but there 22 pages of it ^^', it should be in the first 10 i think

[IHV]

Rehabilitation.

[.:Zack Fair:.]

I saw this

When to test : CharacterTurnEnd
Condition : EndedInSettlement
RemainingMPPercentage = 100
RandomPercent > 90
Affects : Drink 1
Chance : 1 % When to test : CharacterTurnEnd
Condition : IsGeneral
EndedInSettlement
RemainingMPPercentage = 100
SettlementBuildingExists >= masjid
Affects : Drink 1
Chance : 3 % When to test : CharacterTurnEnd
Condition : IsGeneral
EndedInSettlement
RemainingMPPercentage = 100
SettlementBuildingExists >= c_masjid
Affects : Drink 1
Chance : 3 %
here

http://totalwar.honga.net/traits.php...=family&page=3

[Yarrum]

I find this to be a much better trait guide.

[Anfauglir]

Dunno how you get shot of it, but I tend to burn inns instantly to avoid it. Train up some spies, then destroy all drinking holes. Build temporarily again if more spies required later. They're not that important in public order affairs, and they make a mess of the men! Who said TW was unrealistic?!

[IrishBlood]

theres a small sub mod that prevents all elves and most human hero's from having negative traits like that, because it goes against the lore, dont know if it effects lesser known, random generals. Think its just really there to prevent the likes of Aragorn and Elrond from becoming alcoholic wife beaters

[JorisofHolland]

Some triggers from the TATW EDCT:
Drink; the alcoholic trait.

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Worthy_Of_Marriage_2_VnV_Trigger
    WhenToTest OfferedForMarriage


    Affects Drink  1  Chance  6 
    Affects Sobriety  1  Chance  12 
    Affects Disciplinarian  2  Chance  17 
    Affects GoodAdministrator  6  Chance  17 
    Affects PoliticsSkill  1  Chance  17 
;------------------------------------------
Trigger sitting_around_town_vnv_trigger
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition EndedInSettlement
          and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
          and RandomPercent > 90

    Affects Drink  1  Chance  1 
    Affects Gambling  1  Chance  1 
    Affects Arse  1  Chance  1 
    Affects Girls  1  Chance  1 

;------------------------------------------
Trigger sitting_around_town_with_taverns
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition EndedInSettlement
          and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
          and SettlementBuildingExists >= brothel

    Affects Drink  1  Chance  2 
    Affects Gambling  1  Chance  1 
    Affects Girls  1  Chance  2 


;------------------------------------------
Trigger sitting_around_town_with_islammosque
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and EndedInSettlement
          and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
          and SettlementBuildingExists >= masjid

    Affects Drink  1  Chance  3 
    Affects Rabblerouser  1  Chance  3 
;------------------------------------------
Trigger sitting_around_below_the_decks
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and AtSea

    Affects Drink  1  Chance  3 
    Affects Arse  1  Chance  3

Sobriety, the anti-drink trait. A point for this one means a point less for Drink, and the other way round. However, Drink has a no going back level of 5, so after that all hope's lost for your general.

;------------------------------------------
Trigger dads_a_bit_drunk_vnv_trigger
    WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge

    Condition FatherTrait Drink >= 1
          and FatherTrait Drink <= 2

    Affects Sobriety  3  Chance  40 
    Affects Drink  1  Chance  20 
;------------------------------------------
Trigger dads_more_drunk_vnv_trigger
    WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge

    Condition FatherTrait Drink >= 3
          and FatherTrait Drink <= 4

    Affects Sobriety  9  Chance  55 
    Affects Drink  1  Chance  20 

;------------------------------------------
Trigger dads_totally_drunk_vnv_trigger
    WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge

    Condition FatherTrait Drink >= 5
          and FatherTrait Drink <= 6

    Affects Sobriety  18  Chance  70 
    Affects Drink  1  Chance  20 
;------------------------------------------
Trigger family11
    WhenToTest CharacterMarries

    Condition Trait Drink >= 2

    Affects Sobriety  1  Chance  80 
;------------------------------------------
Trigger family11
    WhenToTest CharacterMarries

    Condition Trait Drink >= 2

    Affects Sobriety  1  Chance  80 

;------------------------------------------
Trigger family12
    WhenToTest CharacterMarries

    Condition Trait Drink >= 3

    Affects Sobriety  2  Chance  60 

;------------------------------------------
Trigger family13
    WhenToTest CharacterMarries

    Condition Trait Drink >= 4

    Affects Sobriety  4  Chance  40 

;------------------------------------------
Trigger family14
    WhenToTest CharacterMarries

    Condition Trait Drink >= 5

    Affects Sobriety  8  Chance  20 

;------------------------------------------
Trigger family15
    WhenToTest CharacterMarries


    Affects Sobriety  1  Chance  5 
    Affects Prim  1  Chance  5 
    Affects Drink  1  Chance  5 
    Affects Girls  1  Chance  2 
    Affects Sane  1  Chance  10 
;------------------------------------------
Trigger family20
    WhenToTest CharacterBecomesAFather

    Condition Trait Drink >= 2

    Affects Sobriety  1  Chance  80 

;------------------------------------------
Trigger family21
    WhenToTest CharacterBecomesAFather

    Condition Trait Drink >= 3

    Affects Sobriety  2  Chance  60 

;------------------------------------------
Trigger family22
    WhenToTest CharacterBecomesAFather

    Condition Trait Drink >= 4

    Affects Sobriety  4  Chance  40 

;------------------------------------------
Trigger family23
    WhenToTest CharacterBecomesAFather

    Condition Trait Drink >= 5

    Affects Sobriety  8  Chance  20 

;------------------------------------------
Trigger family24
    WhenToTest CharacterBecomesAFather


    Affects Sobriety  1  Chance  5 
    Affects Prim  1  Chance  5 
    Affects Drink  1  Chance  5 
    Affects Girls  1  Chance  5 
    Affects Sane  1  Chance  10 
;------------------------------------------
Trigger selfperpetuating33
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition Trait Sobriety >= 1

    Affects Sobriety  1  Chance  4

[liddabit]

givetrait drink -3 works too =p I really hate the boozer traits.

[damnmap]

TA is hilarious when it comes to negative traiats... almost every family member becomes a burden to their region because of alcoholism and corruption. Everyone likes to have a good time in ME

[SinerAthin]

My whole Elven family tree consisted out of:

- Heavy drinkers to the point some of them even became partly paralyzed.
- Diabolically degenerated sexually obsessed animals.
- Loud mouthed, profane swearers who can't control their outbursts.

I must have really gone wrong somewhere!

[IrishBlood]

My whole Elven family tree consisted out of:

- Heavy drinkers to the point some of them even became partly paralyzed.
- Diabolically degenerated sexually obsessed animals.
- Loud mouthed, profane swearers who can't control their outbursts.

I must have really gone wrong somewhere!

that made me lol

[Mikail Mengsk]

Rehabilitation.

win

[JorisofHolland]

I analysed the triggers I just posted:

Drink is gained by:
- being at sea
- getting married
- being in a town
- being in a town with brothel or higher tier building
- drunken father

Sobriety is gained by:
- getting married
- drunken father
- becoming father
- self-perpetuating, once you have it, it will slowly increase

[HolyDevil]

My whole Elven family tree consisted out of:

- Heavy drinkers to the point some of them even became partly paralyzed.
- Diabolically degenerated sexually obsessed animals.
- Loud mouthed, profane swearers who can't control their outbursts.

I must have really gone wrong somewhere!

yeh i notice this in a lot of my elvish campaings as well but boy was this funny to reead

[Formann]

My whole Elven family tree consisted out of:

- Heavy drinkers to the point some of them even became partly paralyzed.
- Diabolically degenerated sexually obsessed animals.
- Loud mouthed, profane swearers who can't control their outbursts.

I must have really gone wrong somewhere!

Hahaha, nice! At least their not Chinless wonders (that they suffer from the fact that their parents had the same last name BEFORE marrying eachother) like several people became in M2TW. actually in the case of the elves thats more realistic than them being alcoholics with tourettes. The animal thing is kinda in the elven "love nature" thinking

[Baywatch]

My whole Elven family tree consisted out of:

- Heavy drinkers to the point some of them even became partly paralyzed.
- Diabolically degenerated sexually obsessed animals.
- Loud mouthed, profane swearers who can't control their outbursts.

I must have really gone wrong somewhere!

Elves in TATW > Elves in lotr lore.