Actually, you're right, menander, it is Greek. But it's called a kopis, not a falcata...those are Iberian.
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Actually, you're right, menander, it is Greek. But it's called a kopis, not a falcata...those are Iberian.
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Kirā
Actually, yeah, Campanian cavalry sounds pretty good. Those italians jamming as much stuff on their helmets as possible...
IYI
I'll go for Campanians too.
And i have a question for fans too.
Faction?
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Well the first two figures were easy, but this one I am not sure about. Fun thread Mr Kelvin!
Paulus (above) says they could be Italian with all that helmet ornamentation, but didn't the sucessors also like to be 'dolled up', maybe it's the addition of the plume along with the feathers and wings that marks it as a little bit over the top for Greek tastes?
If they are Itallian I didn't know they had such heavy cav. If so did they copy them from the Greek successors?
One thing is for sure, EB sure has some tasty skins!
As for faction, if they are Campians then I quess that they are regional troops so that Rome and Carthage should be able to get their grubs on them early game.
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Comte
Okay, kopis. Fine :wink:
I think a Successor State, personally.
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Thessalians, regional unit recruitable only in the region of Thessaly, recruitable by hellenistic factions and "Senatvs Popvlvsqve Romanvs"
Yamabe
I hope they won't be overpowered..Thank you and Khelvan for this info, as i would really like to see a Spartan Hoplite in the game.
Dico, te Pyrrhe, vincere posse Romanos
You, Pyrrhus, Romans shall conquer or You, Pyrrhus, shall conquer Romans (word-play)
- Cassius Dio, Roman History IX.40.4
the plume smells italian...
Kirā
Originally Posted by Little Legionaire
I'll go for Campanians too.
And i have a question for fans too.
Faction?
They definitely look Phallic, oh, I mean Gallic...
Sōkō yumi
Yeah? I thought that they were actually English football fans!
(Just a little Scottish dig there).
DA MIHI SIS POCVLVM VINI FALERNI
By the way, has no one noticed the saddle for this latest unit?
On the Spartans, we intend to make them so powerful that 100,000 Persians are held off by just 300 of them!
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Mayhem Crop Jet
That won't satisfy fans... Give us historical battle, Gauls vs. Romans. And couple of machine guns to Romans in a bridge map while defending.By the way, has no one noticed the saddle for this latest unit?
On the Spartans, we intend to make them so powerful that 100,000 Persians are held off by just 300 of them!
Kirā
It looks like a Roman four horn saddle, but those weren't used until near the end of EB's period, if not later. Or perhaps I've missed out on the latest "Roman cavalry really was good" research.
Saddles...Scythian tribes had 'em, some of the tribes at least. Some eastern peoples did, but I'm not sure when, nor am I sure which ones. Celtiberians had saddles, no? But I don't know of Celtiberians with crested, winged, feathered helms. So I'm gonna guess either some sort of Roman auxiliary unit, or something along the lines of my first guess: cavalry from somewhere in Anatolia.
Civitate
We already saw the Thessalian cavalry in the Macedon preview. This does appear to use the same model though.
maybe they are some kind of medium cavalry for the greek colonies around the black sea? recruitable to the getai (with the right government of course) and the hellenic states and rome, or maybe just mercs. or perhaps they are Odrysean (i am probly wrong but i think in this era they were more "hellenized" than the other thracians further north), in which case they would be available to hellenics and the getai (and maybe rome).
Yamabe
By the way, has no one noticed the saddle for this latest unit?
On the Spartans, we intend to make them so powerful that 100,000 Persians are held off by just 300 of them!
Then I hope you'll model them so that Romans will be able to kill 600,000 Seleucid troops
And don't forget to include myrmidions as Greek bodyguards
Dico, te Pyrrhe, vincere posse Romanos
You, Pyrrhus, Romans shall conquer or You, Pyrrhus, shall conquer Romans (word-play)
- Cassius Dio, Roman History IX.40.4
Kirā
Ok, I think I got it. Hippeis-class landed Greeks in the Seleukid territories. Similar to the pezhetairoi, but more wealthy. Recruitable either as a faction unit or as a territorial unit, located in the arable Asian provinces taken by Alexander or the successors. Maybe not as far east as Baktria, because I haven't seen that helmet on any Baktrian coins, but in Anatolia, Mesopotamia, and Coele Syria (if its regional).
...Ok, I think I got it. Hippeis-class landed Greeks in the Seleukid territories. Similar to the pezhetairoi, but more wealthy. Recruitable either as a faction unit or as a territorial unit, located in the arable Asian provinces taken by Alexander or the successors. Maybe not as far east as Baktria, because I haven't seen that helmet on any Baktrian coins, but in Anatolia, Mesopotamia, and Coele Syria (if its regional).the difference between BS and genius historian is mesured only by bewilderment
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I like Spartan Hoplites...
.............yep... i sure do......
Chinen
Latest one looks more like Macedonian Companion Cavalry to me, but with saddles I'm not so sure...
Stop teasing us Khelvan and just show us everything
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