[HISTORICAL ISSUE] - The Bulgarian People

[NikeBG]

That can be confirmed with theory about city BVLGARY in Italy and with that that many slovenians have or had in past names like Boris Bojan Milan Jana.......

I haven't heard about a city called Bulgary in Italy, but all Bulgar-related toponyms in Italy are considered to be either from the times of the early Bulgar settlements there (Alziok/Alzek's ones in Lombard times; see Vincenzo D'Amico) or from the later times of the spreading of Bogomilism (often called "the Bulgarian heresy" and its proponents often called "Bulgarians"; see f.e. this documentary (a little bit of self-advertising )). Nothing related to the Slavs as such...

[phoenix[illusion]]

That can be confirmed with theory about city BVLGARY in Italy and with that that many slovenians have or had in past names like Boris Bojan Milan Jana.......

hahaha do you mean Bvlgari perfumes from italy?
it was given by their owner, Boulgaris, written in roman style (romans read V as U or V, depending of sentence)

btw. i use that perfume, even if i'm serb

[slavic_crusader]

ahahahahahahahahahahhaa Nice thing to add

[Makedonij]

hahaha do you mean Bvlgari perfumes from italy?
it was given by their owner, Boulgaris, written in roman style (romans read V as U or V, depending of sentence)

btw. i use that perfume, even if i'm serb

Man i thoth you guys are seriuos!! And you are pronounceing history?

Here it is:

It should be added that toponyms in Italy that may suggest a Bulgar presence - e.g. Bolgare in Lom-bardy, Bolgheri in Tuscany and Monte di Bulgheria - are probably not related to the earliest Bulgar migrations, but either to late Mediaeval immigrations from the Balkans (when the Slavic and Albanian presence was also established or re-established), or to earlier Christian heretics (e.g. in the 12-13th centuries the later were called Bougres in France, from when the English coarsity "bugger" de-rives). There is also a small possibility that some such toponyms in Italy may come from the Albanian word bulgër or bujgër, denoting a type of plant.

("Ignote colonie slave sulle coste del Gargano", in: G. Rohlf, Studi e ricerche su lingua e dialetti d'Italia. Firenze, 1972).
(''AVARS, BULGARS AND CROATS by Emil Hersak'')

[NikeBG]

It might be possible, yes. This has puzzled the old researchers too - the highest ammounts of Bulgar toponyms (and surnames) are in Northern Italy, while the early Bulgars are supposed to have settled in the Benevento. So it's possible that the ones in Northern Italy are from later times, probably due to the Bogomil movement.

[phoenix[illusion]]

Man i thoth you guys are seriuos!! And you are pronounceing history?

hahaha, if i'm not serious, what can i say for macedonians

[Wallachian]

Woah mad necro dude, where did you dig up this thread from?! Yes yes we know youtube has all the answers to all the questions in the world.

[Bagatyr]

WTF? why this topic is returned ?

[Wallachian]

There was a troll posting stupid vides everywhere. I reported him so his posts must have been deleted.

[Bagatyr]

what was he posting ?

[Son of Serbia]

There was a troll posting stupid vides everywhere. I reported him so his posts must have been deleted.

Ah, so THAT is why there were a couple of threads here that became senseless all of a sudden! Thanks.

[NikeBG]

what was he posting ?

Links to about a dozen YouTube vids, with almost no comments or ones that usually had nothing to do with the thread ("Bulgarians are not Slavs", "Bulgarians are not Tatars", "See here for Bulgarian-Thracian connection" and others like that).

[Tureuki]

Oh c'mon, same guy again ?

[Son of Serbia]

Ha! Saw him this time! Not gonna bother reading through spam stuff, though.

[Wallachian]

As they say the internet can be a great learning tool or a great garbage heap. This type of amateur made youtube videos fall into the second category. Show me proper-made documentaries. Im sure there is a seed of truth in the topic but this is not the way to show it. I think this guy just wants people to click on the links to get viewer numbers up on youtube.

[Bagatyr]

What crap they this time ?

[Son of Serbia]

Absolutely the same as the last time he showed up.

[Romanov131]

As a Bulgarian I consider myself from Slavic origin. By living in Bulgaria I can surely say that modern Bulgarians speak a Slavic language (as I can pretty much understand what other Slavs like Serbs and Russians are saying). The culture and traditions in Bulgaria are identical to the Slavic ones. I once made some research about the DNA of the Bulgarians and it turned out that it's closest to Macedonian and Serbian ones.
There is no such thing as Mongolo-Tatars here. This theory was invented by Tito and company to distance the Bulgarians from the ex-Yugoslav nations (especially Macedonians). The sad thing is that today there are people who still believe in it.
As for the Ancient Bulgarians- nobody can be sure about it. They were steppe people, but their origin will never be known until some real proofs are found. Until then, I will not believe in any of the theories of Iranic/Turkic origin.

[Darios]

Yes


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[DobroVece]

Indeed, welcome necroposter.