Who deserves to not be admited in the EU?

[Ishoss]

I voted for future geographical boundaries. So: Russia, Georgia, Armenia, Israel (didn't see it but if I did it would have recieved a vote), Turkey and Morocco. The ones with the strongest case would probsbly be the Russians, but if they get admitted then the 'hellenic' caucasians would have to be let in as well.

Of course, they would all have to fulfill the goals set before them. But I believe the ones I voted for should never be allowed in, you got to draw a boundary somewhere.

[Ishoss]

I rest my ass quite comfortably outside the EU, thank you. I'm kind od a Social democrat, but not an inch within that infested continental empire.

I agree, for the time being. We're in reality a poor country. We have littl resources besides oil and fish. There's less fish now than it was in the '50s, and we've had an incredible population growth since then. We have to use our tempoary wealth to establish a permament wealth. Rght now we can do that best on our own, in the future we will need the EU probably.

We have a lot of Thorium so in the future we might become rich once more. If that's the case then I believe we should join the EU. Our future wuld be pretty much saved, and we could have a lot to contribute with in Europe.

[Armenum]

The countries of the Caucuses are already in Council of Europe and Eastern Partnership. So politically they are Europe. However, they all have a long way to go with reforms and such to be even be considered for EU.

[white-wolf]

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What about Cyprus?

[Ishoss]

What about Cyprus?

It's an island with a history heavily influenced by Europe. Greek colonisation, Crusades and recent intervention.

Personally I'd keep them out, but they do have a quite strong case.

[white-wolf]

Personally I'd keep them out, but they do have a quite strong case.

Like being "NOT" in Europe or being "Christians" themselves?

[Stavroforos]

Um...Cyprus is Christian.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Partly.

[Stavroforos]

Well the part that isn't is under occupation, so it's not part of the EU.

[PointOfViewGun]

Well the part that isn't is under occupation, so it's not part of the EU.

Actually EU, Greece and Southern Cyprus sees it as it's part of EU. One thing I can't understand is how the occupation was not an issue for the membership of Cyprus but is for Turkey.

[Stavroforos]

Indeed, but it's only de jure, not de facto part of the EU. I'm guessing since Cyprus isn't the one illegally occupying one half of a sovereign nation.

[georgeman51]

I voted all of them! There should not Be a EUSSR!

[PointOfViewGun]

Indeed, but it's only de jure, not de facto part of the EU. I'm guessing since Cyprus isn't the one illegally occupying one half of a sovereign nation.

Well, I would call resettling Turks from Anatolia into the island as illegal but I wouldn't call the occupation as illegal but that's a whole different discussion.

Occupier or Occupied; it's still a problem that has to be resolved before entering EU. To me it's an obvious case of EU hypocrisy.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Well the part that isn't is under occupation, so it's not part of the EU.

I still don't think the EU part is 100% Christian.

[Stavroforos]

I still don't think the EU part is 100% Christian.

Well...obviously. No nation of the EU is 100% Christian.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Then let's not be saying "Cyprus is Christian". Cyprus is a geographical feature, as as such by definition, agnostic.

[Stavroforos]

The nation of Cyprus is largely Christian. Greece is a Christian nation despite having a small minority of other faiths. That's all I meant Ferrets, but there's no need for either of us to descend into pedantry.

[PointOfViewGun]

I still don't think the EU part is 100% Christian.

Take the example of Poland. It's economically and socially very similar to Turkey. Do you think it would be in EU if the majority of its population was Muslims?

[Sir Winston Churchill]

Since China and North Korea aren't in there, that would be no one.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Take the example of Poland. It's economically and socially very similar to Turkey. Do you think it would be in EU if the majority of its population was Muslims?

Poland doesn't have quite as bad a freedom of speech problem as Turkey, as we have discussed but you typically deny.