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    Author: Karamazovmm
    Original thread: Laptop buying/upgrade guide or THE WILL IT RUN THREAD *UPDATED, CPUs, GPUs, 02/23/10

    Laptop buying/upgrade guide

    Have seen too many threads in the technical area dedicated to ask if your pc will run ETW, have decided to create this thread to answer those questions


    -The CPU

    This is the heart of your PC, he commands! And as such we have to choose a good one.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    *If you're buying a laptop don't buy in any case a AMD chipset! if you're buying a desktop choose at will

    What to choose

    In pc we always try for a one size fits all, but most of you know that doesn't come anywhere near true, since we have such a huge numbers of pcs and as such we have to have some knowledge for us to grab the one we want it.

    The letter/type of chip (order of the list is higher to lower) :
    - i7= holy mother! best processor you can get in laptops, *Strengths: Great performance Weakness: not the most power conscious chip.
    - i5= the most powerful two core processor around,*Strengths: Excellent processing power, great power saver Weakness: none that was shown
    - i3= this is for the wallet conscious, still pack a good power, just like the old core duo
    - Q= means that it's a quad core *Strengths: Great processing power Weakness: Gulp a lot of power
    - T= means a normal core duo *Strengths: Good Performance Weakness: Could be more power conscious
    - P= means a smaller voltage core duo *Strengths: Good performance, sips little power Weakness: not as powerful as the the T line
    - SL/SP/ULV= means ultra low voltage processors *Strengths: People on the go that need more processing power that your netbook can give Weakness: Has a low processing power compared to the others, although it gives double the performance of an Atom

    The i5 and i3 have now some interesting feature, they can transmit hd video wirelessly, what? Yes they use a hdmi connection with a special router to transmit those neat image from your screen to some bigger screen that you like without those cables, very useful if you want to use them as HTPC (home theater pc)




    -Graphics card

    Always buy a pc with DEDICATED graphics, it means a chip dedicated only to do the graphics work, there are two providers of this thing, ATI and NVIDIA. Intel graphics (GMA 4500hd, GMA X3100, GMA 965, or lower are INTEGRATED, FOR PLAYING ANYTHING ELSE THAN YOUTUBE THEY'RE CRAP)

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Power of the graphics:

    As of any products we have series, versions, etc.. here are some of they (order newer to older):

    Nvidia G 200 = newest of the bunch
    ATI HD 4000 = newest of the bunch
    Nvidia G 100 = rebranding of the 9000 series
    Nvidia 9000 = the most common series of Nvidia
    Nvidia 8000 = old series don't buy at all costs
    ATI HD 3000 = old series don't buy at all costs

    Graphics card have a lot of digits/letters! We can get confused, and as such I have thought a way that might minimize the distress caused by that huge amount of choices.

    1- Let's pay attention to the power of the card!
    2- Let's see what resolution that your monitor have (most notebooks come with a 1280x1024, 1366x768, 1680x1050,1920x1080).

    take a look at this picture (click to expand)


    * Those are the most common graphics are out there, if you don't find it here, don't worry use the common sense, the higher the number the better, and you can also check at :

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Compari...rds.130.0.html

    * in the Nvidia world there's lots of flavors, and they are showed to us in letters, and now they're here with a ranking order, the usual higher to lower:
    GTX > GTS > GT > GS

    Nvidia has a custom of rebranding things, and that's what she done with the GT 200. What? Yes my boy, every model except the GT 240 are some form of rebranding, are from the old architecture, sometimes higher clocked, with a slight increase in shadders, but essentially the same product. Now the GT 240 uses the "new" GT 200 architecture from pcs, err what do you mean.

    I'm saying that the GTX 280 that your thinking is the same GTX 280 from desktop, uses the G92b architecture, that's the same as the 8800 GT from the desktop world. And getting a GTX 280 sli, gives you the same power as the 8800 GTX from the desktop world. Sad, hum?

    Now the GT 300 line is brand new based in the GT 200 desktop line. Although they offer almost the same performance as the old cards, i.e. the GT 230= GT 330, the variation is minimum. Although we do have to wait for the top of the line models, but it seems that what will save Nvidia in the laptop market is optimus (more on this as soon as it becomes more material).

    So basically here if you want to play empire I would recommend something higher than the HD 4330 from ATI, you can play but with the lowest settings, something along the lines of the HD 4650 should do you fine playing on medium or high even, above that you get great performance

    PS: I will update ATI side of things, as soon as the drivers mature, since the HD 5850 now have the same performance as the HD 4850, sometimes less.


    -Memory

    It's the courier that your pc uses to fetch some data at high speeds.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    The higher the merrier, as of now most of the notebooks are coming with 2gb, 3gb, 4gb, go for the higher way 4gb, but remember to look at OS (operational system) that you're using!

    32-bit = use only 3gb even if you have more
    64-bit = use up to 128gb

    So, when buying your pc it will probably come with windows, choose, please, the 64-bit version of it, example: windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. Future proof your system!

    You can upgrade your memory, it's easy, but remember 4g for now is the best for the price.


    -Hard Drive

    He remembers all those movies and photos that you put in your pc!

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    The most common ones are the 320gb or the 250gb go for the higher number there are available up to 640gb.
    The speed of the hd is defined by the size of it and the rpm, the higher the better, although it will consume more power, common speeds are 5400rpm and 7200rpm

    SSDs:

    They're the most novelty of the market, they work like the thumb drive that you and I commonly use, they don't have movable parts and they're FAST AND EXPENSIVE! if you have the money go get one if not do as I do, wait....


    Other important Stuff!

    Here are some other important stuff that are very worth mentioning!

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    -Screen

    The higher the resolution the better, 1366X768 is becoming common, for me it's great some people would go all the way HD in here, but for some people like me that don't have a 20/20 vision in my case more of a 0/0 the "lower the better". Remember 1366X768 is 16:9 format, you have seen this format in your TV, but the most usual format for now for pcs is 16:10, which is falling down the guts...

    There are some types there, the LCD, the LED, the RGB-LED!??! Simply put the RGB-LED are the best, now they are only available at dell, seconded by the LED.

    Matte screen or glossy? personal taste, I do prefer matte.

    -The Chassis

    The notebook is something that you carry around, or should, and so always verify if it is rugged enough for you, if it isn't most chances are that you end up breaking the plastic of some part of it.

    -The weight

    Go for the one that seems light, seriously go for that one, notebooks are portable things, and although you think yourself to have some strength, you will add some 2,5kg to 5kg to your backpack which already, if your like me its filled with things, so we are traveling light let's hunt some orcs!


    -Notebooks that I don't recommend

    HP Pavillion line - they're expensive (in my country Brazil), they have serious heat issues, and don't pack power.
    Dell Inspiron line - they're cheap and that's it, your not going to game anything in here

    Here are some good machines at reasonable prices:

    16" to 18"
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834114706
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834101203
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834220622
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834114785
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834117947

    15"to 14"
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834220605
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834146613
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834220634
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834117908

    If I were you I would look at some MSI notebook specially the gt640 which is portable and has some good guts

    Not advertising but from this list I would personally go for the lenovo, good graphics chip, and processor, if the company is not know to you, they bought the pc part of IBM, there's quality and price in there

    =Online Stores per Country=

    I want to add a new section to both guides so people can make more conscious choices and get better prices, along as well better machines.
    This is a part that is going to be constantly update since I'm asking the contribution of all of you people out there!
    This section don't have any intention to advertise, just to make you make better choices, to handle better your precious hard worked money! Here we have some, they're going to be divided by country so take a look around!

    -US-

    Retailers

    www.newegg.com
    www.tigerdirect.com
    www.zipzoomfly.com
    www.microcenter.com

    Manufacturers

    http://www.falcon-nw.com/
    http://www.ibuypower.com/lobby.aspx
    www.cyberpowerpc.com

    -UK-

    http://www.ebuyer.com/

    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/produc...hp?groupid=701

    http://www.scan.co.uk/
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