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    Default Empire Knightly Orders Submod Update(Panther Banners)

    This is the initial official announcement for the Empire Knightly Orders submod that I hope to have completed before the 1.04 patch is released.

    The goal of the submod is to add additional Orders of Knighthood to the various Empire factions, including unique Grandmaster units for each thatrequire them, and placing the Knightly Orders with the Provinces in which they have a presence:

    For Version 1:

    *The Knights of the Blazing Sun and the Knights Panther will be moved to Provincial Factions appropriate to their history.
    *Unique Grandmaster unit's will be added for the KotBS, Knights Panther, Reiksguard, and Black Guard of Morr.
    *The Knights of the Order of the Gold Lion will be added + their Grandmaster/Inner Circle unit.
    *The Knights of the Order of the Griffon will be added + their Grandmaster/Inner Circle unit.
    *Unique Banners to be added for all.

    For Version 1.x:

    *Additional Orders such as the Knights of the Broken Sword and Knights of the Order of Everlasting Light will be added as time and official patches permit. Some Orders may require custom models, or modifications to existing ones such as adding heraldic items to helms and mounts. Since my modelling skills are not likely up to the task, these will have to wait until they are, or I have an intrepid volunteer to do this.

    For Version 2:

    *Reskinning each of the Provinces' Body Guard units in a manner that makes them more unique and appropriate to their Province.
    *Replacing Cavalry bodyguard units with Greatsword bodyguards in Provinces in which it is appropriate, such as Ostermark.
    *Adding custom models for the Grandmasters themselves.

    Preview March 23rd: Knights of the Blazing Sun and Grandmaster of the Blazing Sun

    Some minor changes were made to the KotBS mounts:

    http://yfrog.com/eq0073uj

    And here is a small gallery of the Grandmaster unit:

    http://yfrog.com/1r0076oaj

    http://yfrog.com/cc0079jj

    March 26th: KotBS Banners:

    http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/6008/0085k.jpg

    Preview Apr 7th: Reiksguard Bodyguard

    http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9412/reik01.jpg

    http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8172/reik02.jpg

    http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3554/reik03.jpg

    http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/7650/reik04.jpg

    http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3766/reik05.jpg

    http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6522/reik06.jpg

    April 12th: Reiksguard banners: The Reiksguard cav one (#2) is made by the CoW team originally and I dressed it up and added more details.

    http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9297/rbanner01.jpg

    http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9493/rbanner02.jpg

    http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8923/rbanner03.jpg

    Preview April 19th Grandmaster of the Knights Panther


    http://yfrog.com/1qpanther04j

    http://yfrog.com/7bpanther03j

    http://yfrog.com/5fpanther02j

    http://yfrog.com/2dpanther01j

    These are some small screens of the Panther Bodyguards that will accompany the Grandmaster. I brightened up a couple of them so that more of the details could be seen, although there is still alot of detail you cant see in just these four screens.

    And Banners: Knights Panther:

    http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4...erbanner01.jpg

    Grandmaster of the Knights Panther

    http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/6...erbanner02.jpg
    Last edited by Kaliaeth Chillblade; April 25, 2010 at 01:16 AM. Reason: Update Grandmaster Panther

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    like i said earlier, i was doing something like this a while back, if you need help with some stuff let me know, also, are you going to make knights of the white wolf provincal too? they have a headquarters in talabheim as well, but it's minor in scale to the knights panther one. it's the other way around in middenheim.

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    This is excellent news KC
    I was hoping that the CoW team would introduce this at some time in a future release...so I am very excited to see this take form as a submod.
    I am looking forward to this much needed bit of lore dressing!
    And I am sure the results could lead to integration into CoW.
    I am really keen to see how the bodyguard reorg turns out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saladin View Post
    like i said earlier, i was doing something like this a while back, if you need help with some stuff let me know, also, are you going to make knights of the white wolf provincal too? they have a headquarters in talabheim as well, but it's minor in scale to the knights panther one. it's the other way around in middenheim.
    Yays! I am very happy you are still open to helping!

    Yes I was planning on having thr Panthers in Middenheim as their presence there is significant, though small. While the White Wolf is in Talabheim do you think the White Wolf presence in Talabecland is significant enough? I'd be open to it for sure if you think so.

    Per GW info:
    Reiksguard will be headquartered in Castle Reiksguard/Reikland (I know, duh, LOL) with a presense in the Grand Theologists Lands, although I didn't find any signifcant information suggesting it. I have found info speaking of "Temple Knights" but there are several Templar Orders to Sigmar, the Reiksguard being only one.

    KotBS will be headquartered in Talabheim/Talabecland with a presence in Wissenland.

    Knights Panther will be headquartered in Talabheim/Talabecland with a presence in Middenland and Ostermark

    Knights Griffon will be Headquarted in Altdorf/Reikland.

    Knight of the Gold Lion currently unknown. I can't find any info in my library of where they are headquartered. A GW rep my husband spoke this morning said that many of the Orders haven't been fully fleshed out and/or it is info that only GW-UK has. He suggested contacting them which we have. Waiting fior reply.

    Order of the Black Bear will be Headquartered in Averheim/Averland with a presense in Stirland.

    Templar Order of the Everlasting Light I have a TON of information on, except where their headquarters is. They have chapterhouse ALL over, though, so this might be speculative, which I hate.

    Knights of the Broken Sword again no HQ's information. A fellow WH fan thinks it's in Hochland of Ostland, but I cannot confirm either, yet.

    Order of the Sacred Scythe is Headquartered and only has a presense in Stirland. As they are dedicated vampire hunters, they rarely go elsewhere.

    The Knights of Sigmar's Blood are Headquartered at the Great Sigmarite Temple in Averheim, but they also have a contingent at the Basilica.

    Black Guard of Morr is currently in their correct position, so I wont be messing with them except to add a Grandmaster's unit.

    The Knights Encarmine is an order I'm not sure if we should add.. opinions? No info on where they are Headquartered, but they seem to turn up wherever the fighting is easiest and easiest to take the credit for.

    This leaves some Provinces without Order Knights. Of course there are TT rules for creating new ones just as any other unit. Something we may want to consider to fill in the gaps.

    Some challenges I'm encountering that I may need help with: Changing secondary weapon models, for example the Knights Griffon use Sigmarite Hammers rather than swords as sidearms. I'm not seeing how to do it.. although I haven't had alot of time to really LOOK at it in much detail..maybe in the models file. It's probably something easy and I'm gonna feel stupid when I figure it out....

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    knights encarmine i would suggest wissenland, particulary nuln, as they are a group of arrogant nobles(albeit deadly) who you find in the courts of nuln.

    for nordland there could be the Sons of Manaan

    Hochland i remember reading of the knights of the silver mountain, who often come to the aid of hochland.

    ostland: von raukov's nephew is grandmaster of the Knights of the Bull, an order based solely in ostland.

    for secondary weapons: yeah it's in the model file, but you would have to edit the textures so that the model will have textures for a hammer instead of a sword.

    I had a script going for my earlier work for when one of the new grandmasters i created died(default empire model, with bodyguards using same models as respective knightly orders) a new one would show up like the reikmarshall script.

    On the middenheim- Talabheim thing I read that Knight Panthers have a headquarters in middenheim as they are used as todbringer's bodyguard. As on of the Lectors of ulric dwells in talabheim(second largest city for the ulric cult) there is a significant presence of white wolves in talabheim. But it is dwarfed by the knight panthers there, as white wolves are dominant in middenhem, the panther is dominant in talabheim.

    Kind of rambling so here is one more thing: Hunters of Sigmar: a knightly order founded during the storm of chaos, they sound like they act like armored rangers but there equipment is dirty and dented from many battles. they only operate in the Drakwald so maybe an aor for factions who have provinces in drakwald?

    ok im done lol
    edit: ok maybe not here is a good site on the knightly orders and pretty much all things empire:
    http://www.warhammer-empire.com/library/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saladin View Post
    knights encarmine i would suggest wissenland, particulary nuln, as they are a group of arrogant nobles(albeit deadly) who you find in the courts of nuln.

    for nordland there could be the Sons of Manaan

    Hochland i remember reading of the knights of the silver mountain, who often come to the aid of hochland.

    ostland: von raukov's nephew is grandmaster of the Knights of the Bull, an order based solely in ostland.

    for secondary weapons: yeah it's in the model file, but you would have to edit the textures so that the model will have textures for a hammer instead of a sword.

    I had a script going for my earlier work for when one of the new grandmasters i created died(default empire model, with bodyguards using same models as respective knightly orders) a new one would show up like the reikmarshall script.

    On the middenheim- Talabheim thing I read that Knight Panthers have a headquarters in middenheim as they are used as todbringer's bodyguard. As on of the Lectors of ulric dwells in talabheim(second largest city for the ulric cult) there is a significant presence of white wolves in talabheim. But it is dwarfed by the knight panthers there, as white wolves are dominant in middenhem, the panther is dominant in talabheim.

    Kind of rambling so here is one more thing: Hunters of Sigmar: a knightly order founded during the storm of chaos, they sound like they act like armored rangers but there equipment is dirty and dented from many battles. they only operate in the Drakwald so maybe an aor for factions who have provinces in drakwald?

    ok im done lol
    edit: ok maybe not here is a good site on the knightly orders and pretty much all things empire:
    http://www.warhammer-empire.com/library/
    Most of those I thought about but I totally forgot the Sons of Manaan!

    I've only read about them though, never seen any illustrations of them. I thought the Hunters were formed after the Storm of Chaos which is why I left them out.

    As far as Panther vs. White Wolf, you convinced me, and I did somemore checking too. White Wolves should be in Talabecland.

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    Your quite welcome Ms Chillblade.

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    THis sound good! Can't wait to see more.

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    yeah you are right about the hunters, they formed afterwards. sons of manaan wear turquoise and white armour and are accompanied by a priest of manaan, but i will have do some more research.

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    A preview has been added in the first post

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    Those look awesome, Kalieth. If possible, would I be able to include those in Cry Havoc when the time comes?

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    Really good, Kaliaeth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaz View Post
    Those look awesome, Kalieth. If possible, would I be able to include those in Cry Havoc when the time comes?
    When the releases happen, you can add them to whichever project you wish, as can everyone else, as they will be public domain. All I ask is that proper credit is given to Saladin's and my work

    Speaking of which: Saladin has been working hard on custom models for the project. His first Griffon Knight looks fantastic! I hope to have time to skin it soon!

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    They look great!

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    great work on the banners! they look amazing!

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    Absolutely! Banners look awesome.

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    The new banners are a great edition... have you pondered the idea of creating a actual standard bearer? So that if you have banners turned off you still have a lore based banner?

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    yes we have, it's definetly doable, but most likely a later release.

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    Good to hear; would be a nice addition.

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    If you're remaking banners, could you make one for the crusade? It's quite annoying seeing my Averland halberdiers with crucifices on their banners. Cool.

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