Working Patriarch & Redesigned Bishops

[gracul]

In this tutorial i'll show how to get a working patriarch model (1 per every orthodox faction), and how to change catholic bishops so you can have a bishop per every settlement. These are some of the new scripts to be found in SS 6.2.

Patriarchs
Right now, the patriarch model is the one completely unused in the game. The problem with assigning the patriarch is simple - there should only be 1 patriarch per faction, but there is no way to export the fact that a patriarch has already been appointed. Not with using just 1 file that is
In my mod i have 3 orthodox factions, Kievan Rus, Russia, and the Byzantium.
So, lets add a patriarch level to the priestlevel trait first in EDCT:

;------------------------------------------
Trait PriestLevel
Characters priest

Level Bishop
Description Bishop_desc
EffectsDescription Bishop_effects_desc
GainMessage Bishop_gain_desc
LoseMessage Bishop_lose_desc
Threshold 1

Effect Piety 1
Effect Level 1

Level Cardinal
Description Cardinal_desc
EffectsDescription Cardinal_effects_desc
Threshold 2

Effect Piety 1
Effect Level 2
Effect HeresyImmunity 1

Level Patriarch
Description Patriarch_desc
EffectsDescription Patriarch_effects_desc
GainMessage Patriarch_gain_desc
Epithet Patriarch_epithet_desc
Threshold 3

Effect HeresyImmunity 1
Effect Piety 2
Effect Level 2
Effect MovementPoints 10

Now we need to somehow be able to tell if we already have a patriarch or not. And we want the AI to be able to get a patriarch too. Thats why we edit the campaign_script file. The monitor_event in the script file will basically be the same as the trigger for the Patriarch trait, i only check for the piety:

declare_counter patriarch_count

monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart TrueCondition
set_event_counter PatriarchByzantium 0
set_event_counter PatriarchRussia 0
set_event_counter PatriarchKievanRus 0
set_counter patriarch_count 0
end_monitor

monitor_event CharacterTurnEnd AgentType = priest
and CharFactionType kievan_rus
and Attribute Piety > 4

if I_CompareCounter patriarch_count = 1
set_event_counter PatriarchKievanRus 1
end_if

inc_counter patriarch_count 1

end_monitor

monitor_event CharacterTurnEnd AgentType = priest
and CharFactionType russia
and Attribute Piety > 4

if I_CompareCounter patriarch_count = 1
set_event_counter PatriarchRussia 1
end_if

inc_counter patriarch_count 1

end_monitor

monitor_event CharacterTurnEnd AgentType = priest
and CharFactionType byzantium
and Attribute Piety > 4

if I_CompareCounter patriarch_count = 1
set_event_counter PatriarchByzantium 1
end_if

inc_counter patriarch_count 1

end_monitor

The patriarch_count is used in one purpose, if many priests have > 4 piety and there is no Patriarch, then make sure that only once the PatrirachByzantium event will equal 0. We also need an event to tell us we have a patriarch already:

monitor_event CharacterTurnStart AgentType = priest
and CharFactionType kievan_rus
and Trait PriestLevel = 3

set_event_counter PatriarchKievanRus 1

end_monitor

monitor_event CharacterTurnStart AgentType = priest
and CharFactionType russia
and Trait PriestLevel = 3

set_event_counter PatriarchRussia 1

end_monitor

monitor_event CharacterTurnStart AgentType = priest
and CharFactionType byzantium
and Trait PriestLevel = 3

set_event_counter PatriarchByzantium 1

end_monitor

Now, we have an event exported by the campaign_script file, telling us if we really have a patriarch appointed or not, so let's create the triggers in the EDCT then:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger priest_patriarch_kievan_rus
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition AgentType = priest
and CharFactionType kievan_rus
and Attribute Piety > 4
and I_EventCounter PatriarchKievanRus = 0

Affects PriestLevel 3 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger priest_patriarch_russia
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition AgentType = priest
and CharFactionType russia
and Attribute Piety > 4
and I_EventCounter PatriarchRussia = 0

Affects PriestLevel 3 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger priest_patriarch_byzantium
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition AgentType = priest
and CharFactionType byzantium
and Attribute Piety > 4
and I_EventCounter PatriarchByzantium = 0

Affects PriestLevel 3 Chance 100

We can also add conditions like EndedInSettlement and SettlementName or IsRegionOneOf, but since this is just a tutorial im showing the basics. Remember to add the same conditions to the campaign_script file.
So, to gather, we use the script file to export an event read by the EDCT file which will appoint a patriarch. Since in both files the exact same requirements have to be met, we will always get 1 patriarch.

There is 1 drawback however, when you hover over the ui card of the priest, you will see "Cardinal", and same when you open his window - above Piety there will be a Cardinal and not a Patriarch even if you change relevant expanded.txt strings.
So to change this around, change the Patriarch trait to an Effect Level 3.
Open descr_models_strat and for both russia, kievan_rus and byzantium we need to change:

strat_model orthodox_priest ; default model
strat_model orthodox_bishop ; medium level priest
strat_model orthodox_patriarch ; advanced priest

Into:

strat_model orthodox_priest ; default model
strat_model orthodox_bishop ; medium level priest
strat_model orthodox_bishop ; placeholder
strat_model orthodox_patriarch ; advanced priest

Which is basically adding a level.
Now, in expanded.txt we have to update the cultures and the faction with the patriarch description
First culture:

{EMT_GREEK_PRIEST_1}Bishop
{EMT_GREEK_PRIEST_2}PLAYER WILL NOT SEE THIS WITH THIS CULTURE
{EMT_GREEK_PRIEST_3}Patriarch
{EMT_GREEK_PRIEST}Priest
{EMT_EASTERN_EUROPEAN_PRIEST_1}Bishop
{EMT_EASTERN_EUROPEAN_PRIEST_2}Cardinal
{EMT_EASTERN_EUROPEAN_PRIEST_3}Patriarch
{EMT_EASTERN_EUROPEAN_PRIEST}Priest

Update for other cultures too. Every faction will a patriarch will also need a new entry at the faction section.

{EMT_BYZANTIUM_PRIEST_1}Byzantine Bishop
{EMT_BYZANTIUM_PRIEST_2}WILL NOT SEE THIS
{EMT_BYZANTIUM_PRIEST_2}Byzantine Patriarch
{EMT_BYZANTIUM_PRIEST}Byzantine Priest

Do the same for all orthodox factions. Now the drawback's gone and we got a Patriarch with his own model working in the game with all correct descriptions. Cool.

Bishops
A bishop is always someone created in a cathedral or better. Stupid huh?
In reality, a bishop is appointed for every major diocese(major in a sense that has either a lot of people, is historical etc), so that doesn't really fit with the way we have them here in MTW.
Using a variation on the patriarch script above, lets create a script which will appoint a bishop per settlement. Meaning if we have 5 settlements and 8 priests, we will always have 5 bishops, never more never less. Oh, and lets make the bishop lose his title if the settlement gets lost.
So, the script file:

declare_counter bishop_count

monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart TrueCondition
set_counter bishop_count 0
end_monitor

monitor_event CharacterTurnEnd AgentType = priest
and not CharacterReligion pagan
and not CharacterReligion islam
and Trait PriestLevel = 0

if I_CompareCounter bishop_count = 0
set_event_counter AppointBishop 0
end_if

if I_CompareCounter bishop_count < 0
set_event_counter AppointBishop 1
inc_counter bishop_count 1
end_if
end_monitor

monitor_event CharacterTurnEnd AgentType = priest
and not CharacterReligion pagan
and not CharacterReligion islam
and Trait PriestLevel = 1

if I_CompareCounter bishop_count = 0
set_event_counter StripBishop 0
end_if

if I_CompareCounter bishop_count > 0
set_event_counter StripBishop 1
inc_counter bishop_count -1
end_if
end_monitor

So basically, we use the sequence system (PFTS>CTS>STS>STE>CTE) in order to count how many actual bishops we have, and we substract the number of settlements we have. Also we 'block' the triggers in EDCT from fireing with the compare counters.
So now the EDCT triggers:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Priest_to_Bishop
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition AgentType = priest
and I_EventCounter AppointBishop = 1
and Trait PriestLevel = 0

Affects PriestLevel 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Priest_stripped_Bishop
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition AgentType = priest
and I_EventCounter StripBishop = 1
and Trait PriestLevel = 1

Affects PriestLevel -1 Chance 100

Simple and easy. We can add a ton of other requirements, but remember this conditions have to 'mimic' the ones in the script file.
Also delete all the stupid triggers in the EDCT file, which will cause you to get a bishop every time you recruit someone in a cathedral city.

[Gigantus]

Spledifious!!
Always wondered how to get the good man working properly.

[Theodotos I]

Good work, this looks very helpful.

[Lukianos]

Hey gracul;

So I managed to get the campaign to load up properly. The problem was that I did not have the triggers in the correct spot and the scripts weren't properly placed either.

I used the give_trait cheat to up my starting Bishop's piety to 7, and he converted into the Patriarch model.

The only remaining problem seems to be with the expanded.txt file. It still lists my patriarch as a cardinal. If you can help me solve this problem I'd be really grateful!

Thanks again!

[Augustus Lucifer]

For a second there I thought this was some sort of non-included Orthodox 'pseudo-pope' that had left remnants. Still a useful tutorial I'd say, for anyone who wants to use a similar implementation. Incidentally, you can have up to 9 levels per agent, and as models and strings can be changed on a faction to faction basis, there's a lot of possibility for creating hierarchical illusions such as this.

You have one typo:

{EMT_BYZANTIUM_PRIEST_2}WILL NOT SEE THIS
{EMT_BYZANTIUM_PRIEST_23}Byzantine Patriarch

Though I'm fairly certain the worst it would do is display the second string in the wrong location, since the files tend to take the last similar item read. I'm guessing it stores them as variables as it reads it top to bottom, so anything which matches the qualifications for that variable will simply overwrite the previous, like:

# Finished reading line 1031
Byzantium.priest = DocString(2:"WILL NOT SEE THIS")
# Finished reading line 1032
Byzantium.priest = DocString(2:"Byzantine Patriarch")

Though that's trivial.

[Lukianos]

So I found that the problem is that when I have a PriestLevel 3, the game will not read the proper coded line in expanded.txt. For Kievan Rus and Novgorod, I continually get "Cardinal" instead of "Patriarch" and for Byzantium I get a "PLAYER WILL NOT SEE THIS".

I am unsure as to how to correct this.

[Gigantus]

I am not seeing the descr_character file, but does it look like this (without the level entries)?

faction byzantium
dictionary 2
strat_model orthodox_priest = level 0
strat_model orthodox_bishop = level 1
strat_model orthodox_bishop = level 2
strat_model orthodox_patriarch = level 3

Then the following applies in expanded:

{EMT_BYZANTIUM_PRIEST}Byzantine Priest = level 0
{EMT_BYZANTIUM_PRIEST_1}Byzantine Bishop = level 1
{EMT_BYZANTIUM_PRIEST_2}Byzantine Cardinal = level 2
{EMT_BYZANTIUM_PRIEST_3}Byzantine Patriarch = level 3

Guess you got caught by counting the first level as 1 and not as zero.

[Lukianos]

Hah, I just forgot to edit the desc_char file. The unit card and his window now properly displays "Patriarch", but when I hover over him on the strat map I get "EMT_RUSSUA_PRIEST_3".

[Gigantus]

"EMT_RUSSIA_PRIEST_3"

This indicates a missing level 3 entry for the RUSSIAN priest in the expanded.txt file - not byzantium!

{EMT_RUSSIA_PRIEST_3}Russian Patriarch

[Lukianos]

Thank you so much giganticus, +rep.

It took a while but it's working. Got my Patriarch's up and running!

[Lukianos]

Actually one final thing - is it possible to have "Patriarch" listed under the character's traits in the window like "Bishop" and "Cardinal" are? That seems to be the only inconsistency that I have left remaining. Other than that it works fine.

[Augustus Lucifer]

Actually one final thing - is it possible to have "Patriarch" listed under the character's traits in the window like "Bishop" and "Cardinal" are? That seems to be the only inconsistency that I have left remaining. Other than that it works fine.

I don't see why it wouldn't be listed as a trait on the right-side listing, if that's what you're referring to. Are you using this definition of the trait?

Level Patriarch
Description Patriarch_desc
EffectsDescription Patriarch_effects_desc
GainMessage Patriarch_gain_desc
Epithet Patriarch_epithet_desc
Threshold 3

Effect HeresyImmunity 1
Effect Piety 2
Effect Level 2
Effect MovementPoints 10

If not, it's possible you accidentally set the trait to 'Hidden', which would make it not appear there.

[Lukianos]

I figured it out actually. The Patriarch files in export_vnvs.txt for some reason were listed as Patriach. All fixed now. Thanks for the help!

[Lukianos]

Hey guys,

So I tried to use the Bishop script today, and once again I am having problems. It just does not seem to work. I copy/pasted into campaign_script and EDCT, and tried a new campaign but it does not seem to trigger the Priest to Bishop event.

Any one else tried it? Gotten it to work? Thanks for the help.

[gracul]

Maybe try this.
Pick a faction like byzantium, use the spawn_character inside the campaign_script to spawn a couple of priests for byzantium, and then after you click end turn, most of them should go bishop.

[TW fan]

{EMT_GREEK_PRIEST_1}Bishop
{EMT_GREEK_PRIEST_2}PLAYER WILL NOT SEE THIS WITH THIS CULTURE
{EMT_GREEK_PRIEST_3}Patriarch
{EMT_GREEK_PRIEST}Priest
{EMT_EASTERN_EUROPEAN_PRIEST_1}Bishop
{EMT_EASTERN_EUROPEAN_PRIEST_2}Cardinal
{EMT_EASTERN_EUROPEAN_PRIEST_3}Patriarch
{EMT_EASTERN_EUROPEAN_PRIEST}Priest

Where do you paste that? i cant find the file

[TW fan]

And wich trigers i need to delete please more details in what to do and what to delete 1 wrong word and the games goes boom

[Ishan]

The file u are looking for is expanded.txt found inside data\text folder.

[TW fan]

and wich program i must use to open it

[Ishan]

U have to use either a .bin editor to open them or convert them to .txt file by a python script.