Change faction religion... How?

**andriyko** · October 01, 2005, 05:08 PM

All I found in the manual is that faction religion is determined from leader's religion. But how the hell one changes religion of the faction leader?

Are we supposed to breed countless warlords in hope that one of them will be christian? I play Vandals and most of my cities are Christian, but none of my general is (I have 5 produced in Christian Cartage, they all came out pagans).

**Polemides** · October 01, 2005, 05:17 PM

Destroy the established religious building and build the one that you want. For example, destroy the Mithras temple and build the Christian church.

**God-Emperor of Mankind** · October 01, 2005, 05:17 PM

The faction leader won't change religion tho but his children will.
So after a few generations you will have a complete conversion of your bloodline.

**andriyko** · October 01, 2005, 05:20 PM

I don't need to change settlements religion -- they all Christian already. I need to convert my leader and/or the generals.

So, is it the way to do it: breed generals and hope the next one will come out with the right religion?

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As I said above: I produced 5 warlords in Carthage (99% Christian) and they all came out Pagans.

**mib** · October 01, 2005, 05:26 PM

Faction leaders need not be state religion. If your faction leader is not of the state religion you get 10% penalty to public order.

**andriyko** · October 01, 2005, 05:31 PM

Nope, faction leader's religion is the state religion. Every city however has a dominant religion. If dominant religion of the city is different from the state religion you get 10% penalty. But that's all technicalities (you're right basically) and doesn't answer my question: how do I get Christian generals playing Vandals?

**Shaun** · October 01, 2005, 06:45 PM

well are the Vandals not Pagan by nature. Build a church in every city, then eventually he will convert.

**player1** · October 01, 2005, 08:14 PM

Change state religios quickly?

Change faction heir to someone of different religion then leader.
Kill faction leader senate-style... (take him alone agains barbarian hordes).

Also, important thing to know that newborn and adopted generals have higher chance to be of same religion as your faction leader (check VnV files if you don't belive me).

**andriyko** · October 01, 2005, 10:19 PM

That's the problem, I can't get a Christian general to start with.

**visigothe** · October 01, 2005, 10:27 PM

this is what happened for me

i took a berber city as the vandals it was 100% christian and i put a new general age 17 as general. he was a pagan but the overwhelming christian presence kept it at at 100% christian by the time he was 24 he didnt believe in the old gods anymore (via a trait) and his first son was a christian

**PacSubCom** · October 02, 2005, 11:00 AM

Now that's my problem too. Is it possible at all to get Sassanids to defy Zoroaster?

**loler** · October 02, 2005, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by PacSubCom

Now that's my problem too. Is it possible at all to get Sassanids to defy Zoroaster?

Don't think so.

**Fridericus Rex** · October 02, 2005, 11:13 AM

It is not all that simple -
My Pagan leader took a Roman city and replaced their temple with a christian church; all hell broke loose, the loyalty and unrest went down to almost 10%. I had to continue with the Pagan religion. After a Pagan stone was erected the city was back to normal (140%).

Now, tell me what went wrong?

I think one can not convert immediatly but has to wait until some of the population has accepted a new faith and convert at that time.

**loler** · October 02, 2005, 11:18 AM

You can convert immediately if you have a big garrison (10+ units).

**PacSubCom** · October 02, 2005, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Fridericus Rex

It is not all that simple -
My Pagan leader took a Roman city and replaced their temple with a christian church; all hell broke loose, the loyalty and unrest went down to almost 10%. I had to continue with the Pagan religion. After a Pagan stone was erected the city was back to normal (140%).

Now, tell me what went wrong?

I think one can not convert immediatly but has to wait until some of the population has accepted a new faith and convert at that time.

Right. You have to get some people in (family, spies, diplomats) to convert some of the christians to paganism. As the pagan population grows, they will become restless as they don't have the proper pagan temple. You replace the church with the pagan temple when the unrest becomes too strong from both christians and pagans.

**Tulius Hostilius** · October 02, 2005, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by loler

You can convert immediately if you have a big garrison (10+ units).

That’s what the Americans do in Afghanistan and Iraq!

But, what are the vantages if being christians, can’t we all stay pagans!

**loler** · October 02, 2005, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Tulius Hostilius

That’s what the Americans do in Afghanistan and Iraq!

But, what are the vantages if being christians, can’t we all stay pagans!

Please keep politics out of this forum.

**Stalins Ghost** · October 02, 2005, 12:07 PM

Yeah...I'm operating on a Julian style policy in my campaigns. It's difficult though, especially when playing the east...smashing down those churches never goes down well.

**Fabolous** · October 02, 2005, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by PacSubCom

Now that's my problem too. Is it possible at all to get Sassanids to defy Zoroaster?

No, sassinids have to stay under Zoroaster. They are not allowed to change.

Originally Posted by Stalins Ghost

Yeah...I'm operating on a Julian style policy in my campaigns. It's difficult though, especially when playing the east...smashing down those churches never goes down well.

I know, you can conquer a city and have 120% happiness, destroy their church and have 30%. Those people really like their religon.