Oddities in Income?

[Red Hue]

I started a turn with 4400 in projected income.

I liberated a region, made a trade agreement with them, fought 4 battles which reduced my troop upkeep, ended a rebellion, made a few builds and repairs, and at the end of the turn my projected income had dropped to 3300.

Nothing in the ministers category changed. I added no regions. The things I did should have resulted in a higher projected income, shouldn’t they?

What aspects of the economic game am I missing?

[Subudu]

Check out your expenses for townwatcht. If you have many unhappy people it will skyrock

[Red Hue]

Yes, I know but that should have not increased in this situation.

Town watch is only 277 and didn’t make any difference.

Something I did effected my income by 1100.

I acquired a protectorate which should have added around 300

I established a trade agreement worth about 375.

I lost troops which should have resulted in less upkeep.

When the protectorate was established I gained three units with and upkeep of around 400 but instead of having an income of about 4700 ( 5100 - 400) I got one of 3300.

Something cost me 700 but I can’t figure out what it could have been.

[nosey aka lord welington]

units have the same upkeep if the have 2 or 200 men

[Red Hue]

units have the same upkeep if the have 2 or 200 men

That is good to know. So I didn’t up my totals by losing men but what happened to the 700 I should have gotten.

Do protectorates come whit an administrative penalty? Is there one in this game like in ETW?

There is nothing showing what might have happened.

[tommyd]

Is a trade route being raided?

[Red Hue]

No, No trade route being raided.

It all occurred in one turn. NOT one turn to the next.

At the start of the turn I have a projected income of 4400 and change. I took the actions described in the first post and then had a projected income of 3300 and change.

Some action there caused a net loss of some 700. Actually more when you consider I gained a protectorate and a trade partner while having to pay 400 for units I gained.

Discovering what caused it could make a big difference in how I approach the game from an economic standpoint.

[Skouser]

Some things dont update during the turn. End turn and see if there are changes have been made

[Red Hue]

I did go on and it was an accurate projection. The money just flew the coop.

I just wish I knew what I did to bring it on.

[Zetto]

units have the same upkeep if the have 2 or 200 men

Really annoying that they've changed this for NTW. I loved my 6-men units in ETW, excellent for garrison duty

[Dreamw4lk3r]

oh crap they changed the upkeep thing? that sucks + less realistic imo

and I'd not know what could change your income like this if it's not a raided trade route, sunken merchant ship, raided or sabotaged resource/trade buildings... not ministers...

Having high taxes ultimately lowers town wealth but not so drastically each turn, do you have automanage taxes on? I think the answer must lie somewhere with the taxes + policing costs

[Jom]

Presumably when you liberated the region you were given a couple of troops. Now, while these troops probably didn't require a whole 1100 in upkeep, they may have contributed towards your loss of income unless you disbanded them.

[StrawberryDUTCH]

More regions means lower tax returns on all your regions, it's called administration costs. There's a tech or two that reduces the effects of it I believe.

Edit: your income drop is probably the cumulative effect of all of those listed above. The little things sure do add up..