11/03/10 - DLV 6.2 Choose Heir 1.0b

[Demont]

Not sure how many of you have looked at this thread (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=257175) which is setting faction heir to your preference and it got me into the mood to try it out myself, so I did.

DLV 6.2 CHOOSE HEIR 1.0b README

################### #TABLE OF CONTENTS# ################### I. ABOUT II. INSTALLATION III. CHANGE LOG IV. CREDITS ####### #ABOUT# ####### I came across a thread in the mod workshop, discussing how Authority may be related to who is picked as your faction's next heir. So, I went into the Ancillary files, and started looking around. In the DLV Ancillaries, there was already such thing, that being {heir_orb} and add's +7 Authority to whomever posses it. What I have done is I have added this Ancillary to each faction heir, which can then be passed on to their son, and in doing so, having him hopefully be the successor. I.e. - Faction Leader - Bob Faction Heir - George Faction Heir's Son - Timmy Now, when Bob dies, from old age or battle, his son George would become leader, and George's son Timmy, should become the new heir. In order for the Ancillary to be transfered, the target has to be of age. Not sure if the Heir's son will become the next heir if he dies. NOTE: The process by which heirs are chosen is not 100% definitive. This is merely a way to try and influene the engine in picking the heir you have given the Ancillary. ############## #INSTALLATION# ############## 1. Backup your /mod/DLV_ext folder 2. Unrar DLV_6.2_Choose_Heir_1.0b.rar into your DLV_ext folder ############ #CHANGE LOG# ############ v1.0b- -Added {heir_orb} ancillary to each faction heir. ######### #CREDITS# ######### Dues lo Vult Team - For the Awesome mod, of course. konny - For the theory of Authority being detrmining factor in choosing next heir Everyone else in the thread for their efforts and research

As said, this method is not 100% confirmed, so please don't be upset with me if this doesn't work to your expectations, or seems to work, but halfway through a campaign decides to make a distant relative Faction Heir instead.

All of the factors that decide a faction heir are not quite understood yet.

Please let me know how this works for you, so for for me it's worked fairly well and I am pleased with it.

[Taiji]

I really like the sound of this, well done bringing it to DLV

Cool idea of Konny's

[Demont]

Thanks Taiji!

It SHOULD, again, SHOULD work fairly well. So far, my heir has always become the one given the Ancillary.

I'd like to hear other feedback and see if it works out as well, and if not, see if I can't find out how heirs are chosen, for sure.

[Taiji]

Gracul's post goes into detail about how it works.

It's a really cool thing you've done bringing it to DLV +rep

[Demont]

Thanks for that post! *Reads*
+rep

[Kjertesvein]

Does it work for 6.3 Beta1?

and is it save compitable?

Interesting indeed.

[Demont]

Not save compatible, though I will do a version for 6.3.

[La Bestia Von Garlet]

Wow, really nice idea!!!

So you have to transfer the ancillary to the one you want to be the next heir... is it working for you?

I will try this tonight.

[Sensei Kiisu]

could you make one of these for the historical campaign too? Not sure if it works because there is only the imperial_campaign descr_strat included in that download, brilliant work btw ^^

EDIT:

this isn't compatible with the grammar fix pack either by Dermont, - maybe you could both work together and make a pack that includes both?

[Demont]

Sure thing Sensei Kiisu.

I'm still researching, and seeing how, 100% that the heirs are chosen.

[Tokus*Maximus]

Lovely work!

[Sensei Kiisu]

Sure thing Sensei Kiisu.

I'm still researching, and seeing how, 100% that the heirs are chosen.

I'm not sure you made the ancillaries give authority with the release I downloaded which means they're pointless in making a faction heir work, or maybe I just missed them, - still the ancillary does appear and it is transferable (:

Ideas:

you could also make the retinue more valuable by adding bonuses to it, since a general can only have 8 max, and there are far more better ones than just +2 loyalty - I have made a very stable version for TA:TW, which add;

Loyalty +2 (The faction heir will of course be more loyal to the throne)
Authority +8 (To make sure the chances of him becoming faction heir are more reliable)
Local Popularity +2 (The people tend to worship the heir as well as the leader )
Troop Morale +1 (Your soldiers will fight harder for the heir of the Kingdom),

Finally, if you haven't added a script yet for if someone dies and they thus lose the ancillary, you can use this one of mine, (for the export_descr_ancillaries file)

Trigger Script

;---------------------------------------------- Trigger heir_orb WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd Condition EndedInSettlement and IsFactionLeader and TimeInRegion > 1 and not FactionwideAncillaryExists heir_orb AcquireAncillary heir_orb chance 100

**

So basically, if the retinue is lost - the faction leader will gain it on the next turn so long as he is in a city, and then you can appoint the new faction heir

Hope this helps ^^

[key]

Still better, if you remove the Authority bonus from the Orb, and create a Trait(e.g. Royal promise) that gives the +7 or +8 Authority.
This trait should be awarded to any General, who is not the FactionLeader or Heir and has the Orb.
If a character has the trait, but the orb is missing, the trait should be removed.
Also, the trait should be also removed from the FactionHeir/Leader if he possesses it.

[Furin]

Please take into consideration, that right now the same effect with authority is achieved by traits and your firstborn son will always be the heir, if he is alive at the time your king dies. I always "choose" my heir simply by doing a good breeding program with lots of incest (sounds weird but that how it works for me)

The orb with 7 authority might cause the negative authority bug, that's I believe the reason why it was never implemented in the first place. Still great job there, first noticing it and then actually doing it!

Hey and while you are at it, I gave my privy seal a little boost to fertility, so if a general has no kids you can give him the seal and he might start getting lovey-dovey, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more. So you might want to make this too

[Marku]

cool - about the privy seal :-)

[Rafael_Brasil]

This is Great.. Every Single Player of Medieval will Like !! without exceptions

[CoolBreeze-90]

This is pretty cool, thanks for this. Finally I can keep my Kings as true decedents.

[Coeur de Lion]

I really like the idea, but find it somewhat redundant in DLV, particularly with the extensive retinue system already in place. Really good work though, nice to see new ideas being thrown around.

+rep
CdL

[Marku]

will you update this to work with the latest BB mod?

[Lord Willy]

I thought that you can chose your heir with giving the privy sale to the character you want to be your heir ... For me it always work ...