Star Wars the Old Republic - Official Thread

[MortenJessen]

Well wait a sec how can you say that 1.2 isn't worth it content wise and in the next breath say that you haven't even checked it out yet?

Hi.
I did get to check it out after release, but was cut short due to the off-time. So I did not get to see it all. Problem is, and the reason for my saying it is not worht it, is that I have only one toon.... That means, that the only thing I get from legacy (that I have found out about) is five unarmed combat skills... to be honest, as who fights unarmed?? Second thing is, that what is worth it in the legacy system for a one-tooner, costs between 1mill credits and 2.5mill credits. I dont even have a million credits....
So my judegment is still, that it is not worth a flying fart....

[Knight of Heaven]

Hi.
I did get to check it out after release, but was cut short due to the off-time. So I did not get to see it all. Problem is, and the reason for my saying it is not worht it, is that I have only one toon.... That means, that the only thing I get from legacy (that I have found out about) is five unarmed combat skills... to be honest, as who fights unarmed?? Second thing is, that what is worth it in the legacy system for a one-tooner, costs between 1mill credits and 2.5mill credits. I dont even have a million credits....
So my judegment is still, that it is not worth a flying fart....

Off course not, you thought that they would put things in legacy that would give you an edge in pve and pvp? lol
Obviously is all fluff and credits sinks, as it should. And something if you wish it so to aim at it. and for once im very happy taht i can transfer items at will between my toons. even cross factions.
there is players with 10 million credits that dont know what to do with it. But obviously 1.2 pacth isnt only the legacy mind you.
Its useless to you, now, Might not be in the future though, if you grind for it.

Red i find out that you can use masks with hoods now, like Revan style i seen a few dudes like that already , but didnt figure it out how exactly though

[Hotspur]

Mort, you still get buffs if you max out your relationships with your companions. But you're right in that most of the benefits come from playing alts. The fact that I can transfer stuff cross-faction now has been a boon.

Very cool move on Bioware's part to expand the free month of game play to anyone who has hit Legacy level 6.

[Darth Red]

Hi.
I did get to check it out after release, but was cut short due to the off-time. So I did not get to see it all. Problem is, and the reason for my saying it is not worht it, is that I have only one toon.... That means, that the only thing I get from legacy (that I have found out about) is five unarmed combat skills... to be honest, as who fights unarmed?? Second thing is, that what is worth it in the legacy system for a one-tooner, costs between 1mill credits and 2.5mill credits. I dont even have a million credits....
So my judegment is still, that it is not worth a flying fart....

Ah, I see where you are coming from now. Yeah a good third to half of the content is based around having multiple toons on the same server so yeah. But as KoH explained, there are quite a few things that were added that you should be able to take advantage of as well. Here. There was a whole bunch of added content available even if you are only rolling one toon. New op, fp, world boss, loads of customization of gear and interface...just too many things to type them all out.

Red i find out that you can use masks with hoods now, like Revan style i seen a few dudes like that already , but didnt figure it out how exactly though

Oh very cool. Was it for any of the smaller helmets or just specific one's? Like Kallig's helmet (the one you get from the inq. storyline) would look good under a hood.

Very cool move on Bioware's part to expand the free month of game play to anyone who has hit Legacy level 6.

Hmm I should go check my sub, I was under the impression you had to have had a lv 50 toon?

As a thanks for being one of our most valued players, every active account with a Level 50 character as of April 12th, 2012 at 12:00PM CDT / 5:00PM GMT, will receive thirty (30) days of game time** in appreciation for your support and loyalty.

[Hotspur]

Hello everyone! At BioWare we're always listening to our fans and we've heard our community's comments around players with Level 50 characters being the only group awarded 30 days of play time. We appreciate the feedback and are pleased to announce that we are expanding our Legacy Promotion, also awarding 30 days of play time at no charge to players that have reached Legacy Level 6 (who may not have a 50th level character).

We just released the innovative Legacy System as part of Game Update 1.2, and felt that looking at Legacy point progression across all of your characters was a great way to reward our most avid players. This means that any of the experience you earn with any of your characters brings you closer to the goal of Legacy Level 6. The choice of how to get to Legacy Level 6 is yours.

First, you need to have passed Chapter 1 to unlock your legacy. Examples of how to get to Legacy Level 6 include:
A pair of characters Level 45 and 42
A trio of characters of Levels 45, 32 and 32
A bunch of characters Levels 35, 33, 31, 29 and 20
A single 50th level character that has enjoyed the endgame for a brief time
Remember these are just examples – you’re free to choose how to earn your Legacy experience to gain Legacy Level 6.

We've also got another significant piece of good news: everyone will have until April 22nd at noon CDT (5:00pm GMT - click here for a time zone converter) to have a Level 50 character or Legacy Level 6 on their account to get 30 days of game time on us. (Your 30 days of game time will be applied to your account on April 25th by 11:59pm CDT.) Players will now have multiple options, as well as more time, to try and reach these goals and play all the great new content in Game Update 1.2.

As always, we appreciate your feedback and will do our best to surprise and delight our customers.

Dr Greg Zeschuk
Studio GM, BioWare Austin

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=410458

[Knight of Heaven]

Oh very cool. Was it for any of the smaller helmets or just specific one's? Like Kallig's helmet (the one you get from the inq. storyline) would look good under a hood.

No ideia yet. But you know the recruit and battlemaster stuff for the sith warrior, with the similar revan mask? well it works under the hood, dont ask me how, ill neeed to find out
EdIT: well form what i could gather in short notice it doesnt work for every class and its not all gear. its weird though. Im sure they will make this so eventualy, since they had that in beta for everyone.

Hotsupr thats great allthough i have a 50 and afew alts and my legacy is lvl 29

[MortenJessen]

Hi there.
Well, content wise, as of now I cant make much of a judgement, as with the time I have available for playing (also the reason for me only having one toon, as multible would be too much of too little, if you know what I mean), I guess I can make an educated answer in about a months time (I know, not biowares fault), but given that they hyped the legacy system to the hights they did, I am very dissapointed that I get only 30 days for free out of it..... I had expected a fair bit more gamewise.... But then, I could just start a new toon, just to see.

[The Edain]

Oh god, just trecked into the SWTOR forums. PvP'ers raging!



Also, I've randomly lost like 1000 posts? My post count..why have mods desecrated me so!

[Knight of Heaven]

Oh god, just trecked into the SWTOR forums. PvP'ers raging!

Ah thats nothing new there.

[The Edain]

Ah thats nothing new there.

True, but specially since the 1.2 patch, Veteran 50's complaining of under-geared fresh 50's! it's just laughable

[Trajan]

I'm really getting into the endgame content with my merc. When I made my first 50, I did very little before I decided to create another toon and concentrate on that. My 2nd 50 is a different story. Been hitting the dailies everyday. After getting properly geared from that, started doing hard modes last night. Did my first ops with my guild yesterday as well. It's definitely interesting.

[Outlaw]

hey guys how do you feel about this?

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...ince-march.ars

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

Following the textbook MMO pattern.
Nothing new and expected. 1.3 million subscribers is a good number considering they only need 2-300 000 players to be profitable
What Bioware need to do now is keep it up, 1.2 was a good patch and the rakghoul event was great.
If they can keep that up on a more regular basis and start merging all those excessive servers, the numbers will stabilize and grow. If they don't then well the numbers will still stabilize but at a lower number. Won't be below the profitable mark unless they are really really slow with it.

[Khales]

Soon to be released: Diablo 3, Tera, The Secret World and maybe Guild Wars 2.
The number of subscribers will be more interesting in about 3 month. I think it will drop more then, just because SWTOR isn´t innovative at all besides the fully voiced story.

[Trajan]

Getting character transfers and server merges asap are the first things they can do to really keep people re-subbing. Can't count how many people complain on the official boards about how their server is dead/dying. I was on a low pop server and chose to reroll into a higher pop server but there are people who are not willing to do that and will just choose to unsub. I think BW opening up so many servers really hurt the game.

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

Soon to be released: Diablo 3, Tera, The Secret World and maybe Guild Wars 2.
The number of subscribers will be more interesting in about 3 month. I think it will drop more then, just because SWTOR isn´t innovative at all besides the fully voiced story.

Funny enough. Neither is the games you mentioned.
Diablo isn't a mmo so that doesn't even count, Tera is another korean style mmo, Secret world is developed by Funcom, a tainted name in the mmo world.
Guild wars 2 I would say is the only one that shakes things up a bit so that one might hurt other MMO.
SWTOR innovated things when it came to sounds and story, something that only Guild Wars 2 can match.

[Khales]

Voice over was good enough for leveling the first char and visiting flashpoints for the first time. Afterwards while leveling a toon most people just skipped it except the class story, same with fp´s. It got anoying after time.

Nevertheless i enjoyed leveling a lot in this game. But that alone didn´t keep me playing that game. I´ve played on a server that became quite low populated after 2 months and my f-list kept shrinking until i didn´t have enough guildmates or friends to play grp vs. grp pvp. So i wasn´t motivated to wait how the game develops because it had no addictive content for me that was fun for me.
Haven´t they still merged servers or offered free transfers?

Diablo 3 attracts MMO-players especially those who are pvp-orientated. But well, it´s not a MMO, right.
Tera has a skillbased gameplay.
Guild Wars 2 will have a quite unique questsystem.
The Secret World will have non-generic skill-, and craftingsystems and 3 faction pvp.

But in the end it´s all about endgame. If those games don´t have an addicting endgame they´ll fail like many other MMO´s before.

But i´m just sayin´ that those games will steal some subs from SWTOR. The question is how many.

[Darth Red]

^GW2 is the only one on the list that looks decent, well perhaps The Secret World but that's not really my kinda setting. Diablo3 has no PvP the last time I checked either and it looks like a fancier version of Champions of Norrath.

But yeah they do need server transfers/mergers in a big way. As soon as that happens I am moving my first toon Red right the hell out of The Constant. I mean WTF, on Frostclaw right up til around 9 pm (2 am GMT/it's an EU server) WZ's are still popping every 5-10 min. I log into The Constant and, if I am lucky, one will pop during that same time. Christ sakes it's an east coast server during prime time and it dead. I also agree that the questing becomes repetitive, I find myself spacebaring through the same convos over and over that I already heard a thousand times. I'm not knocking it though it was definatly enjoyable to hear them the first couple of times through. Now I just level toons up strictly through pvp, it's the randomness of pug's that keeps my interest.

Also the 'PVP' servers need a little something more, not enough run-ins with the opposite factions. The whole point of a pvp server is you never know when an enemy player is lurking about ready to gank you. I wouldn't mind if they say, level capped planets to keep 50's from ganking on 10's but I think everyone should have to level on the same planets and in the same areas. Or something along those lines too keep it interesting.

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

Diablo 3 attracts MMO-players especially those who are pvp-orientated. But well, it´s not a MMO, right.

Not really, not anymore then other games do.

Tera has a skillbased gameplay.

Slapped into a grind-heavy game like any other korean MMO, nothing innovating.

The Secret World will have non-generic skill-, and craftingsystems and 3 faction pvp.

Again, nothing innovating about that.

But in the end it´s all about endgame. If those games don´t have an addicting endgame they´ll fail like many other MMO´s before.

Not true. End-game is just like Role-playing, a niche among MMO players. There are alot of people that don't give a damn about endgame as long as they can role-play.

But i´m just sayin´ that those games will steal some subs from SWTOR. The question is how many.

Tera=very few due to those with money to spend and a curious mind.
Secret World= Again, same thing except the fact that Funcom is making it. Funcom is well-known for bad products and even worse customer relations. Case in point, Age of Conan that was released in a early beta stage, after that they made blunders after blunders after blunders. Read some articles that suggest that if Secret world isn't a hit then Funcom will no doubt close their doors.

Only Guild Wars 2 will have a serious affect with no monthly subs, good combat and excellent quest system also with voice overs and sometimes choices.

[Knight of Heaven]

Funny enough. Neither is the games you mentioned.
Diablo isn't a mmo so that doesn't even count, Tera is another korean style mmo, Secret world is developed by Funcom, a tainted name in the mmo world....
.

Yet Funcom has anarchy online for instance and they did had very good ideias, their implementation however wa slakcing on age of conan, specialy at launch, what i hear is the game is quite good now. My grip with Age of conan was maybe that they wanted to bite more then they could chew, Secret world seems inovative, and with an interesting setting though, unique in the genre.
But i agree tera was already released for a year or so in korea, and despite the combat system, that gets old very fast, there is nothing new there.
And Diablo well, it realy doesnt count.

Only Guild Wars 2 will have a serious affect with no monthly subs, good combat and excellent quest system also with voice overs and sometimes choices.

Yes but voice overs and story driven in SWTOR is apples and in GW2 is potatoes, if you know what i mean. yet at least from what i could gather in GW2 your choices will actualy matter, and afect your world. That is one of my grips with SWTOR, your choices dont matter at all, hell i recently discover that in the beta, you could kill or not recruit companions, like you could kill malavai quinn, or gault for instance, and thus for not recruiting him to your party, but the testers made major QQ, because " Oh i i excute my healer and now i dont have a healer companion, and i didnt know..." etc so bioware removed that options in the game. Overral i getr the feeling swtor was a better game in the beta then it is now.

Guild Wars 2 will have a quite unique questsystem.

That gets pretty old fast as well i might add. I think the bigest highlight and major feature there is the pvp mainly the WvWvW and what i seen so far is pretty much a zerg fest, but it could change if players organize then selfs along th road.
I wil probably play GW2 since i like pvp, and there is no subs, but i realize that its a game that has been overly hyped. And manny poeple will be disapointed as well, if not already, yet i forseen a great game no doubt.

^GW2 is the only one on the list that looks decent, well perhaps The Secret World but that's not really my kinda setting. Diablo3 has no PvP the last time I checked either and it looks like a fancier version of Champions of Norrath.

I think it has pvp, well at least is intended, but i recon wont be there for launch. There is co op online though. i used to play diablo 2 back in the day, but so far Diablo 3 hasnt convinced me yet to be honest.