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    Quote Originally Posted by The Holy Pilgrim View Post
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    Default Re: How does Sylvania work?

    How exactly can I get my generals to acquire the Necromancy trait? I have adopted a few characters but they don't have it, I was just wondering how they can get it. It would be nice for them to have given the high casualies that my undead armies sustain.

    Also, why doesn't Sylvania have any free upkeep units? The Empire units that they can recruit as well as the other units that they can recruit don't get free upkeep.
    Last edited by TheXand; April 06, 2010 at 07:42 AM.

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    If you want to have 0 upkeep for your undead you can open up the party.txt file I believe it is. Find the undead you want to have 0 upkeep and change that part of it from 150 or something to 0. Voila!




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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathedralsquares View Post
    If you want to have 0 upkeep for your undead you can open up the party.txt file I believe it is. Find the undead you want to have 0 upkeep and change that part of it from 150 or something to 0. Voila!
    It's the export_descr_unit.txt that you have to open up to change it.


    Anyone know how to get your generals to acquire the Necromancy trait btw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXand View Post
    How exactly can I get my generals to acquire the Necromancy trait? I have adopted a few characters but they don't have it, I was just wondering how they can get it. It would be nice for them to have given the high casualies that my undead armies sustain.

    Also, why doesn't Sylvania have any free upkeep units? The Empire units that they can recruit as well as the other units that they can recruit don't get free upkeep.
    You have to mod the export_descr_character_traits.txt file. Here's the section for your trait in question:

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    Trait Necromancy
    Characters family
    AntiTraits Factionleader, Factionheir

    Level Basic_Necromancy
    Description Necromancy_desc
    EffectsDescription Necromancy_effects_desc
    GainMessage Necromancy_gain_desc
    LoseMessage Necromancy_lose_desc
    Threshold 1

    Effect BattleSurgery 20
    Effect TrainingUnits 1

    Level Expert_Necromancy
    Description Necromancy_desc
    EffectsDescription Necromancy_effects_desc
    GainMessage Necromancy_gain_desc
    LoseMessage Necromancy_lose_desc
    Threshold 2

    Effect BattleSurgery 40
    Effect TrainingUnits 3

    Level Master_Necromancy
    Description Necromancy_desc
    EffectsDescription Necromancy_effects_desc
    GainMessage Necromancy_gain_desc
    LoseMessage Necromancy_lose_desc
    Threshold 3

    Effect BattleSurgery 60
    Effect TrainingUnits 5


    The part that I boldened represents what you need to change to give the trait to regular generals (I.E: The ones you adopted for example) However if you add "General" to that field I suspect the game will crash. You'll need to consult with someone on this matter.

    In reference to Sylvania's upkeep your game is bugged or your copy of it corrupted. Sylvania's following units are supposed to have free upkeep the rest will require upkeep: Skeleton Archers, Skeleton Warriors, Skeleton Spear, Zombies, SKeleton Cavalry
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    You need to look in the triggers section, not trait section. "family" is family members and generals. general is not... anything. No file references general in edct.txt

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    WHy is faction heir and faction leader an antitrait? Mannfred has it!

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    It's about the threshold.

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    Oh, so only the faction leader can get Master necromancy?

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    No. They can get the trait, but it means that for every point in the Faction Leader and Faction heir trait they have they lose a point from the Threshold.

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    Oh right. Thanks for explaining!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlawstar15a2 View Post
    Well any Sylvania army should be backed up with a small, yet capable core of elite units like Blood Dragons and Vampire Black Knights but they will be few in number, definitely nowhere near 800 strong, and you will still need vast hordes of skeletons and zombies otherwise you will fail. Sylvania was meant to make use of skeletons. Ok, if you don't like skeletons you can use your Human militias but they will be somewhat fewer in number (workable), will not have 0 upkeep (crap, damnit), and will also not have lock morale which means they won't fight to the last (GOD****IT!), but on the other hand as you implied they are stronger.
    I still don't know why people keep saying they have 0 upkeep. I'm paying 15k a turn do to army upkeep.

    Summoning skeletons with necromancy is free but the upkeep is still there......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost_loy View Post
    I still don't know why people keep saying they have 0 upkeep. I'm paying 15k a turn do to army upkeep.

    Summoning skeletons with necromancy is free but the upkeep is still there......
    Well they're supposed to have 0 upkeep at least thats how it is in my game and I didn't mod the upkeep...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaz View Post
    You need to look in the triggers section, not trait section. "family" is family members and generals. general is not... anything. No file references general in edct.txt
    necromancy triggers will only in 1.4, points will be increased from hiring mercs and command stars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlawstar15a2 View Post
    Well they're supposed to have 0 upkeep at least thats how it is in my game and I didn't mod the upkeep...
    Except they don't in the "complete" TORRENT version of the mod - you know, the one that doesn't require 235455 different files to DL and that is easier to install

    I used this Torrent to acquire CoW + english translations. I just checked the original "units" files... skeletons still have upkeep, so I changed it manually.

    IMO It's just a matter of coordination. The Torrent should be updated on that matter - also with translations + a proper "warhammer" folder instead of "teutonic" as I did manually. Very simple when you know a bit of modding but not all players can do it. Please, do it for them...

    Now, I've read somewhere that somebody made a new music pack for Sylvania - great news!
    Where's the link?

    Since this has become the Sylvania Faction Thread... Just asking!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlawstar15a2 View Post
    Well they're supposed to have 0 upkeep at least thats how it is in my game and I didn't mod the upkeep...
    Why 0 upkeap?

    Try to think that gold for Sylvania = magic power

    necromancer can not support an infinite number of undead

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    True but they can support ALOT, I thought the limit of the magic power was represented by the limitation on their recruitment, otherwise you'd be able to summon 20 stacks in a turn considering the fact that this is warhammer and there are alot of dead people/warriors/soldiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by midterm360 View Post
    True but they can support ALOT, I thought the limit of the magic power was represented by the limitation on their recruitment, otherwise you'd be able to summon 20 stacks in a turn considering the fact that this is warhammer and there are alot of dead people/warriors/soldiers
    So I take it everyone is joining the ghoul lounge down the street from the Sigmarite temple?

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    I believe the life expectancy for your average imperial citizen has been described in detail here
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