LATEST SS RR/RC VERSION - 2010 Version - ***APRIL 11***

[JorisofHolland]

My bad. I should've told you. Perhaps you can ask them how they did it, and then ask PB to implent it? Or don't you have a clue concerning modding?

[Asparagus]

I quite personally hate the no borders mods, however some people like them I guess.
If you plan to include it then could you please post the regular map file or just tell me how to put them back in?

[k/t]

I second that.

[PerXX]

I quite personally hate the no borders mods, however some people like them I guess.
If you plan to include it then could you please post the regular map file or just tell me how to put them back in?

You could simply keep a backup of the descr_sm_factions.txt file, and then restore it after updating. That should be the only file needed. Untill new factions start to appear, there shouldn't be any conflicts with using the current file in the update.

[Asparagus]

You could simply keep a backup of the descr_sm_factions.txt file, and then restore it after updating. That should be the only file needed. Untill new factions start to appear, there shouldn't be any conflicts with using the current file in the update.

Ah thank you +rep.

[JorisofHolland]

I agree, no borders just isn't it for me. Luckily I know what to mod in descr_sm_factions.txt, even if new factions are added.

[Tears of Destiny]

I feel like an idiot, but I have literally not noticed the Borders Mod, and never do unless someone points it out.

[PerXX]

I feel like an idiot, but I have literally not noticed the Borders Mod, and never do unless someone points it out.

It's not included yet It will be in the next version though - you can check it out here in the meantime.

[Tears of Destiny]

It's not included yet It will be in the next version though - you can check it out here in the meantime.

Now I feel like a different kind of Idiot, haha.

Thank you though!

[k/t]

Luckily I know what to mod in descr_sm_factions.txt, even if new factions are added.

I will have to track you down then if new factions are added.

[PerXX]

It's not all that difficult to change. For instance, this is a normal entry for scotland, with the standard borders:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

faction scotland
culture northern_european
religion catholic
symbol models_strat/symbol_scotland.CAS
rebel_symbol models_strat/symbol_rebels.CAS
primary_colour red 0, green 16, blue 94
secondary_colour red 239, green 239, blue 239
loading_logo loading_screen/symbols/symbol128_scotland.tga
standard_index 6
logo_index FACTION_LOGO_SCOTLAND
small_logo_index SMALL_FACTION_LOGO_SCOTLAND
triumph_value 5
intro_movie faction/minor_intro.bik
victory_movie faction/minor_win.bik
defeat_movie faction/minor_lose.bik
death_movie faction/minor_lose.bik
custom_battle_availability yes
can_sap no
prefers_naval_invasions no
can_have_princess yes
has_family_tree yes

The Primary (blue) colour is the colour of the various settlements, while the secondary (red) colour is the border colour. What's been done with the No-borders mod is just to change the secondary colour to the same numbers as the primary ones. Then the areas and the borders are the same colour, making it appear as it's all the same area.

So if a new faction is added without borders in a new version, all you need to do to restore their borders is to make the secondary colour different from the primary one.

[Asparagus]

I'm just curious. Why do some people like no borders it just makes it harder to navigate?

[PerXX]

I quite like it. It makes the factions look more like a united nation, rather than a combined group of smaller areas. Also, it simply looks better to me that way.

[k/t]

Ok, thanks.

[Overlord.ru]

I'm sory for bothering, I've just installed the mod and I'm bit confused. Inside mods\Stainless_Steel_6 folder there are so many other folders. Data_Ai_Byg, Data_Ai_Thesavage and Data_BGRIV - what's the difference?And is BGR IV implemented in all these folders? And what's the Stakes Script Only folder?

[Pleiades]

This is main list of threads for this submod:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1397

This is first aid - direct link (answers) to your confusion:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=300716

EDIT: PB, have you considered sticky FAQ or something, especially for new players of your submod? Even I am often confused what means this or that AI, stakes or not, limited BGR, absolute BGR, limited activity, changed siege code, early or late campaign and when and why etc.

That future FAQ can greatly contribute to order and clarification in RR/RC threads and posts.

And before you kill me, I know that making FAQ can be time consuming and boring to death. But maybe some of us can help you with this, if you so choose.

[Chyeaaaa111]

I agree, no borders just isn't it for me. Luckily I know what to mod in descr_sm_factions.txt, even if new factions are added.

When new factions are added, could you possibly make a sub-mod that would have borders?

[smitty]

When new factions are added, could you possibly make a sub-mod that would have borders?

If he doesn't, I likely will. The current factions are in need of a major overhaul with primary colors already. In my current campaign I have Moors as a tolerable rust color rather than that ungodly orange, French are a much more royal blue, Ottomans a darker green (no more neon death.... ugh), Sicily has a light blue border (looks great in-game, much better than current boring color scheme of grey/white), and Hungary's colors are in line with the magyar mod's colors (much more accurate, and no ugly salmon!).

If PB could release no-borders as an option, like he does with Byg, that would be nice. Or vice versa, just allow us to customize please

[JorisofHolland]

If he doesn't, I likely will. The current factions are in need of a major overhaul with primary colors already. In my current campaign I have Moors as a tolerable rust color rather than that ungodly orange, French are a much more royal blue, Ottomans a darker green (no more neon death.... ugh), Sicily has a light blue border (looks great in-game, much better than current boring color scheme of grey/white), and Hungary's colors are in line with the magyar mod's colors (much more accurate, and no ugly salmon!).

Then I'll leave it to you.

[Tears of Destiny]

Hmm, the colors are in need of an update...