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    Default Denmark-Norway faction thread

    This thread is meant to be a help for modders who either as part of a larger project, or a single faction project like the praiseworthy "Sons of Dannebrog" for ETW would like to expand the Danish-Norwegian faction and roster.
    Hopefully, some time in the future Denmark-Norway will also be unlocked for singleplay and not just customs battle.

    Some quick information about me: I am a Norwegian, with a history background from the University of Oslo, who among other things have written several articles on the Norwegian army of the period. I do primary source research in the national archives and other places on the equipment and uniforms of the Norwegian army of the Napoleonic wars at least monthly, weekly when time allows for it.

    Denmark-Norway in 1801 was a waning power, but still with certain "delusions of grandeur". The empire included Denmark, Schleswig-Holstein + other small parts of what is today northern Germany, Norway, Iceland, Greenland, the Faeroes, as well as minor colonies in India, Africa and the West-Indies.
    The danish army transferred from a professional to a conscripted army in the period, while the norwegian was almost fully conscripted since the 1600s, based on a system not too dissimilar to the swedish indelningsverk, consisting of just under 40 000 soldiers out of just below 900 000 people in total. The danish army was somewhat bigger.
    The navy was common for both kingdoms, and its size made it rank somewhere between the 5th and 10th biggest in Europe depending on year and parametres. However it was also manned with a conscription system which meant that few ships were available on short notice, its main benchmark had been to be bigger than Swedens, but not costing too much, a parametre that showed its outdatedness during the war.

    A very short and simplified walkthrough of Denmark-Norways part in the wars:
    1801: After having profited greatly from trading with both France and Britain as a neutral, the british attacked the fleet in Copenhagen, due to disagreements over this. Peace was reestablished, and the trade boom continued.

    1807: Britain, having squashed Napoleons hope of using a combined Franco-Spanish fleet to invade, or challenge their domination of the world seas at Trafalgar in 1805, in a preemptive strike, the british fleet sails into Copenhagen harbour and demands that the danish fleet must be surrendered to them for the duration of the hostilities, to hinder France from acquiring it, a French invasion or alliance bid seeming very possible at this point, Napoleon dominating the continent.

    The danish crown prince, later king Fredrik VI, ruling on behalf of his mad father Christian VII, declines, mainly out of principles of honour. A landing force, partly commanded by some unknown Sepoy general called Wellesley, defeats the danish Landwehr which was the only military force operating outside the garrison, the main army was stationed on the Holstein border to block a french invasion. Copenhagen is besieged and bombarded (among other things the first operational deployment of Congreves rockets), and the city and fleet soon surrenders (the fleet was mostly laid up due to economical reasons). The brits sail off with virtually the entire fleet, even going so far as to take the personal tools of the navy artisans and the church silver and doors from the main naval base at Holmen.
    Denmark-Norway joins an alliance with the French for revenge.

    1808: Denmark-Norway declares war on the british-allied Sweden in march, Finland is invaded by Russia at the same time. Swedish invasion attempts into Norway is beaten back during the spring and summer, while british ships blockade the extremely important searoutes between Denmark and Norway, Norway not being able to feed its own population without danish corn at the time, and also wreaking havoc on the mainly british-trading patriciate of Norway.

    1809: Peace is signed with Sweden, where the army has commited a coup and deposed the king Gustav, another mad, or slightly regarded guy. Prince Christian August, a danish prince and C-in-C of the Norwegian army during the war is elected Swedish heir to the throne. Sweden loses Finland to Russia. Sweden very half-heartedly joins the continental system against Britain.

    1809-13: several small naval engagements between the "guerrilla" navy of Danish-Norwegian privateers and gunboats and the Royal Navy, as well as small land engagements involving Danish forces (Stralsund, among others).

    1813: Sweden joins the grand coalition against Napoleon, in the meantime the ex-french Marshal Jean Baptiste Bernadotte has been elected as the heir to the Swedish throne, Christian August having died soon after arriving in Sweden. War is once again declared between the Neighbours. The Danish-Norwegian state goes bankrupt due to the costs of the war and the british blockade. The Swedish army under Carl Johan, as Bernadotte now is known, after participating at Leipzig, takes a detour and invades southern Jutland, several battles between danish and allied forces.

    1814: The Danish king Fredrik VI very hesitantly surrenders and pledges to join the coalition, ceding Norway to Sweden as compensation for Finland. The Norwegians, under the kings cousin, Christian Fredrik declare independence, and draft the most radical constitution of Europe at the time, inspired by the american and french revolution, with Christian Fredrik as king. Carl Johan invades at the end of summer, the outnumbered, broke and starved Norwegians surrender after two weeks, but are allowed to keep their constitution and status as a separate kingdom joined in union purely through sharing the king, and having common foreign and defence policy.

    My take on the in-game representation:

    For once, CA has mostly done its homework, I am quite surprised!!! The in-game troops, with small modifications, can give a good representation of all units in both armies.
    There are some small uniform details that are misunderstood, hopefully they can be corrected without too much hassle.
    However, to properly mirror the Danish-Norwegian state, the campaign map should have extended just a little bit further north, with Trondheim also given as a city with a harbour, along with Bergen and Christiania.
    Trondheim was very attractive to Sweden as a trade port (and often an important objective during previous wars, the swedes being sick and tired of the danes dominating the Elsinore Sound between Denmark and Sweden.
    Bergen was Norways biggest city, and also a booming trade port since the middle ages.
    Christiania (current Oslo) was the administrative capital, and also an important port for shipping of, among other things, timber, who being much in demand by almost all warring powers for shipbuilding.
    The northern trade (with Arkhangelsk in Russia) should be represented by a trade route icon just north of Trondheim. (IMHO the use of trade icons on the European campaign map in NTW is quite smart!)

    Online resources:
    A quick overview: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark%E2%80%93Norway
    The king, formally, until 1808: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_VII
    The king 1808-1814: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_VI_of_Denmark
    The sea war against Britain: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunboat_War
    The danish army in 1801: http://www.chakoten.dk/plancher/koellerplancher.html
    Troops from some regiments as seen in Hamburg around 1808-10: http://www.napoleon-online.de/suhr_sonstige.html (at the bottom)
    New (but quite good plates) on the Danish army: http://www.brigade-uniform-tafeln.de...nemark&x=0&y=0

    Norwegian reenactors of the battalion rifle company of a norwegian line infantry regiment 1812-14: http://www.onsoske-compagni.no/

    The uniforms of the two armies were supposed to be identic, only with varying regimental distinctions, but as the war went on, some changes started appearing that separated the armies.
    There are many small and big details that can begiven regarding the different units of the two armies, and not much found on the net is accurate. Please contact me and I will try to answer with either primary or secondary references, and hopefully also free from nationalistic hyperbole and inaccuracies.

    For Kongen og Fædrelandet!

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    Very informative, I enjoyed reading that +rep for you

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    Kjempe innlegg!!!

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    Having aquired NTW today, I tried a custom battle with Denmark and discovered to my consternation that all troops including the "skieløbere" speak swedish! A voice mod is needed post haste!

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    And another thing; this is CA's conception of the aforementioned "skieløbere":

    Compare with this contemporary drawing:

    I have no idea what the hat emblem on the ingame troops is supposed to be (it looks a bit like a two-headed lizard-chicken hybrid), and it is very strange how they got blue and yellow from green and white.
    See also www.elverumske.no for photos of reenactors.

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    Nice information!

    I hope someone eventually makes Norway playable as an individual state, I'd love to play as the Norwegians, especially if a mod is created expanding their unit roster.
    Last edited by LuckyLewis; March 03, 2010 at 03:11 AM.
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    Dairy of a Danish cavalry officer, when being a part of the Auxiliary Corps of 1813. It is written in Danish. http://www.chakoten.dk/enungryt01.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Kopijeger View Post
    I have no idea what the hat emblem on the ingame troops is supposed to be (it looks a bit like a two-headed lizard-chicken hybrid), and it is very strange how they got blue and yellow from green and white.

    I remember reading somewhere that skiløbere wore a coat that was red on one side and blue and yellow on the other, making them able to turn the coat if they wanted to pass as swedes. But I can't find the source. Anyway that might be early 18th century and not Napoleonic era.

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    Great find ! I think the Scandinavian unit rosters should be expanded, not only by creating more different types, but also by recreating the famous regiments ! If there will be a type of SoD, I advice you to expand it with Sweden (similar roster, similar tongue). I offer my help in case.

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    Hei alle sammen! (Hi everybody!)

    Thanks for the positive feedback. I am no modder, but let's hope somebody feels the call, with regards both to Denmark-Norway and Sweden-Finland. (I'd suggest a separate thread like this for Sweden btw.)

    Regarding the ski corps uniforms. Actually, CA didn't go too far amiss (although they probably weren't aware of that).
    Apart from details like the plates on the caps (should be the Norwegian Lion), and that the officer should be green clad, they chose the 1789 uniform, which recently has proven to be correct, although with white trousers supplied in 1808.

    The definitive essay on the ski corps uniforms (a very complex one for such a small unit, even by scandinavian standards) is featured in "Norsk Våpenhistorisk Selskaps årbok 2008"/"Yearbook of the Norwegian arms and armour society 2008", which can be ordered from the Armed forces museum in Oslo. It's also loaded with illustrations, ending with a specially commissioned new illustration of what the southern ski troops looked like in 1808.
    (And it's got dual norwegian-english text for the illustrations, as well as a comprehensive english summary)

    Regarding elverumske.no ... I've written some of the content there, and is also featured in some of the pics
    Much stuff there is correct but based on research done a few years back, a lot of new material has surfaced since then.
    Last edited by VonEwald; March 03, 2010 at 03:47 PM. Reason: Seplling:D + additional information

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    the danish foot guard is so wrong

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    hello?

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    a lost forum

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    Well, if I am to be the only one posting information, or questioning myself for information, yes, it probably is. Apart from agreeing that CA didn't do a good job on the danish foot guards (nor on independent Norways and Swedens uniforms), I can hardly add more to your previous post, can I?

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    also some !!!! that the danes dont speak danish

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    True. Would be fun with the right commands (taken from the proper regulations) in danish and norwegian (and german for some regiments).

    (Shameless bump to along with the Sweden thread)

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    Default Danish-Norwegian army roster 1810

    The following is the list of the danish and norwegian armies units, in the seniority and order of precedence they are given in the 1811 army list. Names, organisation and numbers varied through the years, so they will not be given here, and the names listed here can not be assumed as valid for eg. a 1807 or 1790 scenario.
    However, average combat strength for a line infantry regiment in 1811 can be assumed to be three battalions of 800 privates each, the battalions and companies of a regiment often not serving together.

    Original danish name to the left, english translation to the right.
    Authors notes:
    (C) = common unit, ie. recruited from all parts of the state.
    (D) = danish unit
    (N) = norwegian unit
    (G) = german unit (a distinction not used at the time, they were counted as danish units)

    The nationality given in the bracket would usually indicate where the unit was recruited, stationed, and wether the unit would belong to the danish or norwegian army in war. However, there are always exceptions, and there was often a certain minority of other "nationalities" in any unit.

    Sectioning into arms of service and translations are the authors work, and not contemporary.

    Specialist Troops

    Guide=Corpset (C) : General Staff Corps of Guides
    Det Kongelige Ingenieur=Corps (C) : Royal Corps of Engineers
    Det Kongelige Artillerie=Corps (C) : Royal Corps of Artillery (contained three "brigades", one for each part of the state, and several more or less independent sub-units, but was administrated/counted as one very, very big regiment.

    Cavalry
    Den Kongl. Livgarde til Hest. (C) : Royal Horse Guards
    Liv=Regiment Ryttere. (D) : Life Regiment of Horse
    Liv= Regimentet lette Dragoner. (D) : Light Dragoon Life Regiment
    Hans Høihed Prinds Frederik Ferdinands Dragon=Regiment. (D) Pr. Friedrich Ferdinands Dragoon Regiment
    Det Siellandske Rytter=Regiment. (D) : Sealand Regiment of Horse
    Det Jydske Regiment lette Dragoner. (D) : Jutland Light Dragoon Regiment

    Det Fyenske Regiment lette Dragoner. (D) : Funen Light Dragoon Regiment
    Det Slesvigske Regiment Ryttere. (G) : Schleswig Regiment of Horse
    Det Holsteenske Regiment Ryttere. (G) : Holstein Regiment of Horse
    Det Søndenfieldske Dragon=Regiment. (N) : Southern Dragoon Regiment
    Husar=Regimentet. (D) : The Hussar Regiment (also includes a Uhlan Squadron, former Bosniaks)
    Det Aggershusiske ridende Jæger=Corps. (N) : Akershus Mounted Rifle Corps
    Det Tronhiemske Dragon=Corps. (N) : Trondheim Dragoon Corps

    Corps of Cadets (not combat units)
    Det Kongl. Landcadet=Corps. (C) Royal Corps of Cadets
    Det Kongl. Norske Landcadet=Corps. (N) Royal Norwegian Corps of Cadets

    Infantry
    Den Kongl. Livgarde til Fods. (C) : The Royal Foot Guards
    Det Danske Liv=Regiment til Fods. (D) : Danish Life Regiment of Foot
    Det Norske Liv=Regiment til Fods. (D) : Norwegian Life Regiment of Foot (misleading title, like some british unit titles)

    Kronens Regiment. (D) : The Crowns Regiment
    Hans Majestæt Kongens Regiment. (D): The Kings Regiment
    Dronningens Liv=Regiment til Fods. (G): The Queens Life Regiment of Foot
    Det Fyenske Infanterie=Regiment. (D): The Funen Infantry Regiment
    Kiøbenhavns Infanterie=Regiment. (D): The Copenhagen Infantry Regiment (including one marine battalion)

    Det 1ste Jydske Infanterie=Regiment. (D) : 1st Jutland Infantry Regiment
    Det andet Jydske Infanterie=Regiment. (D): 2nd Jutland Infantry Regiment
    Det Søndenfieldske gevorbne Infant. Regiment. (N) : Southern Enlisted Infantry Regiment
    Det Nordenfieldske gevorb. Infant. Regiment. (N) : Northern Enlisted Infantry Regiment
    Det 3die Jydske Infanterie Regiment. (D) : 3rd Jutland Infantry Regiment

    Det Oldenborgske Infanterie Regiment. (G) : Oldenburg Infantry Regiment
    Det Slesvigske Infanterie Regiment. (G) : Schleswig Infantry Regiment
    Det Holsteenske Infanterie Regiment. (G) : Holstein Infantry Regiment
    Det Oplandske gevorbne Infanterie=Regiment. (N) Opland Enlisted Infantry Regiment
    Det Aggershusiske nationale Skarpskytter=Regiment. (N) : Akershus Light Infantry Regiment
    Den Søndenfieldske Skieløber=Bataillon. (N) : Southern Ski Battalion
    Det Tellemarkske Infanterie=Regiment. (N) : Telemark Infantry Regiment

    Det første Tronhiemske Infanterie=Regiment. (N) : 1st Trondheim Infantry Regiment
    Den første Nordenfieldske Skieløber Bataillon. (N) : 1st Northern Ski Battalion
    Det andet Tronhiemske Infanterie Regiment. (N) : 2nd Trondheim Infantry Regiment (contains the 2nd Northern Ski Battalion as well)
    Det Bergenhusiske Infanterie Regiment. (N) : Bergen Infantry Regiment
    Det Vesterlehnske Infanterie=Regiment. (N) : The Southwestern Infantry Regiment

    Rifles and Light Infantry

    Det Siællandske Jæger Corps. (D) : Sealand Jäger Corps
    Det Siellandske Skarpskytter Corps. (D) : Sealand Light Infantry Corps
    Det Jydske Skarpskytter=Corps. (D) : Jutland Light Infantry Corps
    Det Norske Jæger Corps. (N) : Norwegian Jäger Corps

    Det Slesvigske Jæger=Corps. (G) : Schleswig Jäger Corps
    Det Altonaiske Jæger=Grenadeer=Compagnie. (G) : The Altona Jäger-Grenadier Company
    Det Holsteenske Skarpskytter=Corps. (G) : Holstein Light Infantry Corps
    Kongens Livjæger=Corps. (D) : The Kings Life Jäger Corps
    Den Valderske Skarpskytter=Bataillon. (N) : Valdres Light Infantry Battalion
    Den Bergenhusiske Skarpskytter=Bataillon.

    "Regular" militia, garrison, and temporary units raised during the war
    Den Langelandske Infanterie=Bataillon. (D) : Langeland Infantry Battalion
    Samsøes Landmilice. (D) Samsoe Land Militia
    Det Siællandske ridende Jæger=Corps. (D) : Sealand Mounted Jäger Corps
    Det Fyenske ridende Jæger=Corps. (D) : Funen Mounted Jäger Corps
    Det Jydske Jæger=Corps. (D) : Jutland Jäger Corps
    Hendes Kongl. Høihed Hertuginde Louise Augustas Livjæger=Corps. (D/G?) : HRH Duchess Louise Augustas Life Jäger Corps

    Det Lollandske Jæger=Corps. (D) : Lolland Jäger Corps
    Det Langelandske ridende Jæger=Corps. (D) : Langeland Mounted Jäger Corps
    Sappeur Corpset. (C?) = Corps of Sappers
    Garnisons Compagniet i Nyborg. (D) : Nyborg Garrison Company (Invalids)
    Garnisons Compagniet i Frideriksort. (D?) : Frideriksort Garrison Company (Invalids)

    Bornholms Milice. (D) : Bornholm Militia
    Kiøbenhavns Borgervæbning. (D) : The Copenhagen Militia
    Det borgerlige Artilerie=Corps i Helsingøer. (D) : Elsinore Militia Artillery
    Det borgerlige Artillerie=Corps i Rendsborg. (G) : Rendsburg Militia Artillery

    Det frivillige Røraasiske Bergjæger=Corps. (N): Røros Volunteer Mountain Jäger Corps (mandatory militia for miners and foundry workers at the Røros Copper Works)
    Frederiksværks=Corps. (D): Frederiksvaerks Militia Corps (mandatory militia for employees at the royal arms factory)
    Kongens Liv=Corps. (C) : Kings Life Corps (Infantry battalion, mandatory service for all students enrolled at Copenhagen University)

    In addition there is a plethora of local city militias and volunteer corps, but neither their size, importance or history merits inclusion here.

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    Oh, and while I'm at it. Something that really, really, really annoys me, especially in regards to Denmark-Norway and Sweden as represented in NTW, but also for the other countries.

    The names of generals and admirals. True, there are a few historical ones now, but the random generated ones are utterly, utterly ridicoulous.

    Danish-Norwegian nobility and officer names (not necessesarily the same) of the period was never stuff seen in the game like "Mikkel Hans" or "Per Sjostrom".

    The list given here: http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danske_adelssl%C3%A6gter could with a few modifications be cut and pasted directly into the generator file to replace the current laughable ones.

    NB: all danish-norwegian officers, wether they were named "Shitehouse" , "Thompson"
    or "Fotherington-Wotherington-Bingo-Zingo-vonAufAnUnterHinterZwischen"
    (these are english examples, just to get my point across, but not all officers had posh names like "Rosencrantz", some had plainer names like "Hansen" or "Bang", used the german "von" prefix, to show their formal and social position as officers, and this was given as a royal privilege when they received their officer commission.

    Common christian names in Denmark-Norway was very german inspired (with a few more nordic names starting to reappear), but since naming your children after the king or their father was very common, there's quite a lot of "Christian Frederik", "Frederik Christian", "Ulrich Friederich Christian" etc, as well as names like "Peter", "Jacob", "Joachim" , "Claus", "Nicolai", "Laurentius", "Ole"/"Olaf", "Valdemar", "Wilhelm", "Herman", etc.

    See also list of danish generals: http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategor...er_fra_Danmark
    (note that many names here are not from the NTW period, often the shorter ones).

    In short: 2 or 3 given names + von + surname.


    To further prove my point regarding NTW names in general, and Danish-Norwegian and Swedish in particular:
    alphabetical ranked list of nobility names listed in the Swedish nobility:
    http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfabet...dels%C3%A4tter

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    Names of the Danish-Norwegian ships taken by the British, 1807:

    Ships of the Line:

    Name - Construction year - Number of Guns
    ARVEPRINS FREDERICH
    (1788) - 74 kanoner
    CHRISTIAN DEN VII (1805) - 96 kanoner
    DANNEMARK (1799) - 74 kanoner
    DITMARSKEN (1780) - 64 kanoner
    FYEN (1788) - 74 kanoner
    JUSTITIA (1780) - 74 kanoner
    KRONPRINS FREDERICH (1786) - 74 kanoner
    KRONPRINSESSE MARIA (1793) - 74 kanoner
    MARS (1789) - 64 kanoner
    NEPTUNUS (1791) - 84 kanoner
    NORGE (1801) - 74 kanoner
    ODIN (1791) - 74 kanoner
    PRINDSESSE CAROLINE (1805) - 74 kanoner
    PRINDSESSE SOPHIE FREDERIKKE (1775) - 74 kanoner
    SEJEREN (1800) - 64 kanoner
    SKJOLD (1796) - 74 kanoner
    TRE KRONER (1794) - 74 kanoner
    WALDEMAR (1798) - 84 kanoner

    -
    Frigates:

    ELVEN (1800) - 18 kanoner
    FRIDERICHSSTEEN (1800) - 36 kanoner
    FRIDERICHSVÆRN (1783) - 36 kanoner
    FREYA (1795) - 40 kanoner
    FYLLA (1802) - 20 kanoner
    GLÜCKSTADT (1804) - 18 kanoner
    HAVFRUEN (1789) - 30 kanoner
    IRIS (1795) - 40 kanoner
    PERLEN (1804) - 44 kanoner
    LILLE BELT (1801) - 20 kanoner
    NAJADEN (1796) - 36 kanoner
    NYMPHEN (1807) - 36 kanoner
    PERLEN (1804) - 46 kanoner
    ROTA (1801) - 40 kanoner
    ST. THOMAS (1779) - 36 kanoner
    TRITON (1791) - 28 kanoner
    VENUS (1805) - 36 kanoner

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    Brigs:
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    ALLART (1807) - 18 kanoner
    DELPHINEN (1805) - 18 kanoner
    DEN FLYVENDE FISK (1787) - 14 kanoner
    GLOMMEN (1792) - 18 kanoner
    MERCURIUS (1806) - 18 kanoner
    NID-ELVEN (1792) - 18 kanoner
    SARPEN (1792) - 18 kanoner
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    Other smaller ships (some uncertainities regarding which ones were burned/destroyed in situ)
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    AALBORG, kanonfartøj (1786)
    AHRENDAHL, kanonbåd (1786)
    ASSENS, kanonchalup (1807)
    Bombarderbarkasse (1804)
    Bombarderbarkasse Nr. 2 (?)
    Bombarderbarkasse Nr. 3 (?)
    CHRISTIANSUND, kanonbåd (1787)
    FLENSBORG, kanonbåd (1787)
    FRIDERICHSSUND, kanonchalup (1807)
    HAIEN, stykpram (1802)
    HELSINGØER, kanonbåd (1805-1807)
    KALLUNDBORG, kanonchalup (1807)
    Kanonjolle Nr. 1 (1805)
    Kanonjolle Nr. 5 (1805)
    KIEMPEN, stykpram (1804)
    MIDDELFART, kanonbåd (1807)
    NAKSKOV, kanonbåd (1787)
    ODENSE, kanonbåd (1786)
    ROESKILDE, kanonbåd (1805)
    RØDBYE, kanonchalup (1807)
    SALTHOLM, kanonchalup (1806)
    STAVÆRN, kanonbåd (1792)
    STEGE, kanonbåd (1787)
    VIBORG, kanonbåd (1786)
    VILDANDEN, jagt (1789)
    ØRNEN, skonnert (1800)

    Surviving major ships:
    Hertuginde Louise Augusta (S-O-L) in Norway.
    Prins Christian Frederik (S-O-L) in Norway
    Lougen (Brig) in Norway

    (all taken from http://www.navalhistory.dk/Danish/Fl...riode/1807.htm)

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    thats many ships

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    Nice information. People interested in trying to play as Denmark or Norway should visit this mod: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=353359

    Not easy to uptain names on norwegian units i'm afraid, but some have been added already.

    Sure the british took alot of danish ships, but if we then look at how many british ships the danish navy captured using mainly gunboats it's even more impressive in my opinion.

    Keep up adding info


    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=358430 Frederick VI rise to power - My NTW AAR.

    In hoc signo vinces

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