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[Aradan]

At first I was thinking about building that would recruit certain new unit, but I don’t even know will you add any (probably you will replace Dwarves of Aglarond with one new unique unit). So, my idea is following:

Bardic/Skaldic company/guild/something (requires Hall of Feasts)

As illiterate people they most likely pass on their knowledge, history and legends orally to following generations. There is a need then for people that would keep it and make epic poetry (quite often mentioned in the LOTR) to ease memorising.

It wouldn’t be against the lore I think:

“They (Rohririm) are proud and willful, but they are true-hearted, generous in thought and deed; bold but not cruel; wise but unlearned, writing no books but singing many songs, after the manner of the children of Men before the Dark Years.”

It could work as academy giving good traits and ancillaries to family members. Further it could organise bardic contests (that could work like arena) annually, once a month or dally.

How would a bardic guild affect the acquisition of good traits? Increasing public order, that would make more sense, but we already have a feast-themed SB that does not.

If you don’t like that, second idea would be horse races, but nothing in the books would support that.

Indeed, races would not be fitting.

You could just call it Marshal to avoid confusion, or rename the rank. If you don’t remove it you could make it a bit harder to get because those Marshal would equate generals, right? Few battles won won’t lunch everyone almost to the top of the military structure.

Came up with a new concept for a functional military structure just the other day, and this anc falls under its 'umbrella', so it's gonna be taken care of.

Ah, I liked those ancillaries (they look really nice), but you are right, that is far more realistic than the possibility to scatter them around the kingdom. Well, I hope that we will at least still have descriptions.

The ancillaries will be converted to traits, so yes, the descriptions will stay.

I am curious will at the start of the campaign Guards of the Citadel and Guards of the King’s House be present. I don’t know why they weren’t present (maybe they were killed off in the rebellion, chaos after the rebellion, or Guard’s of the Citadel engage in the plot against the king similar to Praetorian Guard), but I think that they should be present from the start in the DOM. Also, maybe longer recruitment time for them could be given as they are supposed to be best of the best and more or less their duty is ceremonial.

Already got it covered.

Will we be able (for the sake of replayability and roleplaying) get rid of Herumor. Repent from our dirty cultic ways as Tar-Palantir repent on Númenor.
For example Herumor would appear as ancillary to the next king only if it was in possession of a previous. That way we could kick him to some (preferably old) faction member and we get rid of him when his new “patron” dies.
Ah, yes, probably too minor thing to bother with, and maybe impossible.

I've not decided yet, but I'm considering make Herumor available to the most influential family member that's a Cultist, so that he will only disappear for as long as there are no Cultists in Adunabar. While there are, he'll find a way to sneak his way into the court and cause some trouble.

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

If you need the name for a marcher lord with extended authority, that'd be margrave.

[Jagmodo]

How would a bardic guild affect the acquisition of good traits? Increasing public order, that would make more sense, but we already have a feast-themed SB that does not.

Well, I imagined those bards as lore keepers of Rohirrim, so people could learn much from them.

Very crude example of possible retinues:

- Bard: “Man who knows every lore detail of our people is certainly great asset.” -Gives +1 influence ->

- Master Bard: “Master bard that knows many secrets of past that can be put to good use” -Gives +2 influence, +1 management;

- Harp (or any music instrument): “Company of man that knows to play instrument well is generally enjoyed.” -Gives +1 influence
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Very crude example of possible traits:

- Basic lore knowledge: “This man has been instructed in basic lore knowledge of our people -Gives +1 influence ->

- Medium lore knowledge: “This man has acquired decent knowledge about our folk’s ways” -Gives +2 influence ->

- Lore master: “This man has become lore master and has acquired some long forgotten practical knowledge” -Gives +3 influence, +1 management, increase chance of healing casualties
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- Proud of his heritage: “This man is proud of his heritage and people” -Gives +1 loyalty (I have vague memory of someone mentioning that you will reintroduce loyalty in the DOM) ->

- Very proud of his heritage “This man is very proud of his people's customs” -Gives +2 loyalty, +1 influence ->

- Leaning towards chauvinism: “Although this man has loyal mind, sometimes he look strangers as inferior to his people. Trade is suffering as a result.” -Gives +3 loyalty, +1 influence, reduces chance of assassination attempts, -1 management
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Of course those are lousy examples put together without almost any thinking and real ones could look much better. Anyway, I had also written as requirement Hall of Feast as guild or association would have to act somewhere, and I imagined it as association, not actual building.

But, it really goes in conflict with Great Feasting Hall. And, I have really exaggerated role of those bards, haven’t I. I made them overly similar to druids.

Indeed, races would not be fitting.

Just because they don’t have a “nose for business”. Just imagine what profit state held gambling business (horse bets) would bring.

I've not decided yet, but I'm considering make Herumor available to the most influential family member that's a Cultist, so that he will only disappear for as long as there are no Cultists in Adunabar. While there are, he'll find a way to sneak his way into the court and cause some trouble.

I like the idea. It is certainly better than mine crude “kicking”. As you said he would always find shelter at the most prominent Cultist.

[Øctavia Yávëtil Theron]

Hello , I Just Downloaded the Mod a friend of mine gave me his Rome: Anthology so i have Rome and all its expansions up to date (1.5, 1.6, 1.9) if i understand right i install the full TNS 2.6>TNS WoM and Hotfix right ?.

Btw really Epic Job in the Mod i have TATW but i wanted to play the Fourth Age too and i can say this is really impressive .

[Aradan]

Yes, that's right, 2.6 Full, WoM, Hotfix.

Enjoy the mod!

[Øctavia Yávëtil Theron]

Yes, that's right, 2.6 Full, WoM, Hotfix.

Enjoy the mod!

Thanks Aradan

[Øctavia Yávëtil Theron]

How do i select the Main Campaign ? I Chose 1 of the campaigns of the Wars of Men , but now i want to play in main map the Middle-Earth One so i can play as the Dwarves but i cant seem to find it i click on the camping selector but the only Main Campaign available is the one of Wars of Men with (Dunland, RK, Adunabar, Empire of Harad, Rohan, Rhun) available to play only how do i change back to FATW Main campaign ?

[Aradan]

The map and factions of TNS are the ones you see; Elvs, Dwarves, the rest of the factions and the rest of the map will be included in the coming release, but are not there in TNS.

The 'main' campaign of TNS is only different to the WoM ones in that it's not customised to the player's faction. But the maps/factions are the same.

[Øctavia Yávëtil Theron]

The map and factions of TNS are the ones you see; Elvs, Dwarves, the rest of the factions and the rest of the map will be included in the coming release, but are not there in TNS.

The 'main' campaign of TNS is only different to the WoM ones in that it's not customised to the player's faction. But the maps/factions are the same.

Ohh Ok . It Just That I read the info in the Wiki and i misunderstood well the best of luck for the next release gonna keep playing this awesome mod .

Ohh I forgot i have 1 question are there any plans for future release that the northen part of the Reunited Kingdom (Arnor) be included along with Eriador ?

[Aradan]

Yes, Arnor will be part of the RK.

[Hopelessly Hopeless]

How will you avoid the rampant corruption that is likely to... rampage the Arnor provinces of the RK? Massive law bonus from something? It would be nice to be able to assign two capitals

[Aradan]

It's impossible to have two capitals. What we've done is assign provinces in Arnor compensating law bonuses that decrease the further you move away from Annuminas.

[Stark1]

Those will work only for RK, right?

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

I don't think there is any reason to assume otherwise, even though they might've made a similar system for Adunbar.

[Predator1994]

Hey, just wondering,shall the player using RK gonna have some specioal units to recruit in Arnor, or the same as in the rest of the teritory-the regular(i wanna ask if there are some special dunedain units or something.
Also, are there gona a be new units to recruit as RK and Adunabar in the teritories like Anfalas?
Seconded:if RK captures Rhovanion, are there gone a be special units there, as it was part of Gondor once and they had some strong troops.
I just want to say i really wait for this mod and it shall be a great news it's releas.

Cheers Predator!and hope for some impressive respons.Please Aradan stunn me(with good news),

[Aradan]

Those will work only for RK, right?

And Adunabar.

Hey, just wondering,shall the player using RK gonna have some specioal units to recruit in Arnor, or the same as in the rest of the teritory-the regular(i wanna ask if there are some special dunedain units or something.

There are Eriador-specific units, yes.

Also, are there gona a be new units to recruit as RK and Adunabar in the teritories like Anfalas?

What do you mean by "regions like Anfalas"? What is special about it?

Seconded:if RK captures Rhovanion, are there gone a be special units there, as it was part of Gondor once and they had some strong troops.

Not sure what you mean by special. There are Rhovanion-specific levies, and RK has 'outlands' in parts of the region where it gets them with more experience, but that doesn't qualify as special, I think.

[Øctavia Yávëtil Theron]

It's impossible to have two capitals. What we've done is assign provinces in Arnor compensating law bonuses that decrease the further you move away from Annuminas.

Really Nice

[Agamemnon]

Any chance I'll be able to move my capital to Annuminas and not have all Gondor revolt?

[Aradan]

Detecting the capital through code is impossible (at least as far as I know), so we don't have a way of assigning bonus "when the capital is (not) in province X", so I'm afraid not. Of course Gondor is generally loyal to RK, so it won't be impossible to hold it while the capital is in Arnor.

[Predator1994]

Firstly, about Anfalas region, in LOTR TW there were some axmen of anfalas, green-something archers-i mean shall there be units aside the regular rK rooster.
Glad to see Eriador specific units.That will sureli add to the games playability.
That's what i wanted to know about Rhovanion.There shall be some units apart the main rooster.

I don't think moving capital to Arnor is a viable condition as Gondor is the greatest city of RK and there you get some of your best troops.I, personally wouldn.t change the capital unless absolutely necesary.

I apreciate your answer Aradan and i hope this mod, when it is released shall rock our world as it seems to develop into something beyond excelent.
Cheers Predator!