Unable to recruit Diplomats in v1.02+Hotfix

[GERMANICUS]

I am 20 turns into a Reikland Campaign but I am unable to recruit Diplomats. In Altdorf there is not a single that enables this Is anyone else having this problem as well?
@CoW team I am finding v1.02 very stable well done on the patch!
This mod is uber entertaining except when as the emperor and I reconquer a city fallen to the foul chaos scum I am unable to restor it to its rightful empire ruler or allied ruler...

[The Holy Pilgrim]

Neither can I. I guess it's to prevent the Human Players from attacking another Empire County without considering the consiquences

[GrumpyBean]

I am 20 turns into a Reikland Campaign but I am unable to recruit Diplomats. In Altdorf there is not a single that enables this Is anyone else having this problem as well?
@CoW team I am finding v1.02 very stable well done on the patch!
This mod is uber entertaining except when as the emperor and I reconquer a city fallen to the foul chaos scum I am unable to restor it to its rightful empire ruler or allied ruler...

You should be able to recruit them if you head to: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\teutonic\data --> export_descr_buildings
and add the lines in green under the red words like this.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

building city_hall
{
levels city_hall_1 city_hall_2 city_hall_3 city_hall_4 city_hall_5
{
city_hall_1 city requires factions { eastern_european, southern_european, }
{
capability
{
agent diplomat 0 requires factions { spain, hre, portugal, scotland, sicily, milan, venice, saxons, byzantium, france, }
agent diplomat 0 requires factions { russia, }
recruit_pool "Knights Innercircle" 1 0.1 1 0 requires factions { spain, hre, portugal, scotland, sicily, milan, venice, saxons, byzantium, france, }
recruit_pool "Kislev Nobel" 1 0.1 1 0 requires factions { russia, }
law_bonus bonus 1
taxable_income_bonus 5
population_health_bonus bonus 1
}
material wooden
construction 6
cost 5200
settlement_min town
upgrades
{
city_hall_2
}
}
city_hall_2 city requires factions { eastern_european, southern_european, }
{
capability
{
agent diplomat 0 requires factions { spain, hre, portugal, scotland, sicily, milan, venice, saxons, byzantium, france, }
agent diplomat 0 requires factions { russia, }
recruit_pool "Kislev Nobel" 1 0.1 1 0 requires factions { russia, }
recruit_pool "Knights Innercircle" 1 0.1 1 0 requires factions { spain, hre, portugal, scotland, sicily, milan, venice, saxons, byzantium, france, }
law_bonus bonus 2
taxable_income_bonus 10
population_health_bonus bonus 2
upgrade_bodyguard 1
}
material wooden
construction 1
cost 1000
settlement_min large_town
upgrades
{
city_hall_3
}
}
city_hall_3 city requires factions { eastern_european, southern_european, }
{
capability
{
agent diplomat 0 requires factions { spain, hre, portugal, scotland, sicily, milan, venice, saxons, byzantium, france, }
agent diplomat 0 requires factions { russia, }
recruit_pool "Kislev Nobel" 1 0.1 1 0 requires factions { russia, }
recruit_pool "Knights Innercircle" 1 0.1 1 0 requires factions { spain, hre, portugal, scotland, sicily, milan, venice, saxons, byzantium, france, }
law_bonus bonus 3
taxable_income_bonus 15
population_health_bonus bonus 4
upgrade_bodyguard 2
}
material wooden
construction 3
cost 4000
settlement_min city
upgrades
{
city_hall_4
}
}
city_hall_4 city requires factions { eastern_european, southern_european, }
{
capability
{
agent diplomat 0 requires factions { spain, hre, portugal, scotland, sicily, milan, venice, saxons, byzantium, france, }
agent diplomat 0 requires factions { russia, }
recruit_pool "Kislev Nobel" 1 0.1 1 0 requires factions { russia, }
recruit_pool "Knights Innercircle" 1 0.1 1 0 requires factions { spain, hre, portugal, scotland, sicily, milan, venice, saxons, byzantium, france, }
law_bonus bonus 4
taxable_income_bonus 20
population_health_bonus bonus 5
upgrade_bodyguard 3
}
material stone
construction 6
cost 6000
settlement_min large_city
upgrades
{
city_hall_5
}
}
city_hall_5 city requires factions { southern_european, }
{
capability
{
agent diplomat 0 requires factions { spain, hre, portugal, scotland, sicily, milan, venice, saxons, byzantium, france, }
agent diplomat 0 requires factions { russia, }
recruit_pool "Kislev Nobel" 1 0.1 1 0 requires factions { russia, }
recruit_pool "Knights Innercircle" 1 0.1 1 0 requires factions { spain, hre, portugal, scotland, sicily, milan, venice, saxons, byzantium, france, }
law_bonus bonus 5
taxable_income_bonus 25
population_health_bonus bonus 6
upgrade_bodyguard 4
}
material stone
construction 12
cost 9000
settlement_min huge_city
upgrades
{
}
}
}
plugins
{
}
}

Just Pm me if you have problems!

[The Holy Pilgrim]

Thanks for the help GrumpyBean!

+rep for your kindness

[GERMANICUS]

I tried out your fix GB and tested it out and works well now Many thanks!

Do you think the CoW team did this intentionally? as a part of game play variation.

Back to my Reiland Campaign first order of business return Salzenmund to the rightful rule of Nordland after purging it of heretics and the unclean after a Slaanesh occupation.

[Werebear]

to prevent the alliance empire + chaos or orcs

ai did this...

[GERMANICUS]

Hail Isilendil!
Thanks for replying back and confirming the change in v1.02, I do find that without Diplomats it limits maintaining the hereditary lands of the Empire as per faction.
As Reikland/Emperor I campaign to restore lands lost to Chaos/orcs would the CoW team consider implementing something like this submod done for TATW?
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=257051
I did notice Averland and the Night Goblins became Client kingdoms in my current campaign
The Emperor was VERY displeased

[Scipio praeditus]

Seeing as this is sort of the right subject I thought I'd post the following here:

I followed GrumpyBean's instruction explaining how to add diplomats to a faction, I did it for the orcs in this case like you'll see in the spoiler below:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

building great_waaargh
{
levels waaargh_1 waaargh_2 waaargh_3
{
waaargh_1 requires factions { turks, moors, }
{
capability
{
agent diplomat 0 requires factions { turks, }
population_growth_bonus bonus 1 requires factions { turks, moors, }
}
material wooden
construction 2
cost 1600
settlement_min village
upgrades
{
waaargh_2
}
}
waaargh_2 requires factions { turks, moors, }
{
capability
{
agent diplomat 0 requires factions { turks, }
population_growth_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { turks, moors, }
}
material wooden
construction 8
cost 3200
settlement_min town
upgrades
{
waaargh_3
}
}
waaargh_3 requires factions { turks, moors, }
{
capability
{
agent diplomat 0 requires factions { turks, }
population_growth_bonus bonus 3 requires factions { turks, moors, }

It did indeed work, I was able to recruit orcishly named ottoman diplomats.

Now my problem actually is that those diplomats cannot engage anything for diplomatic negotiation, does anyone know how to give them the capability to do so?

I need diplomats because I am about to write an AAR about Orcs, but it is not possible to do it the way I want too if I can't have working diplomats.

Could someone in the know please help me with this, if so I will make sure to rep you into infinity.

[GrumpyBean]

Seeing as this is sort of the right subject I thought I'd post the following here:

I followed GrumpyBean's instruction explaining how to add diplomats to a faction, I did it for the orcs in this case like you'll see in the spoiler below:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

building great_waaargh
{
levels waaargh_1 waaargh_2 waaargh_3
{
waaargh_1 requires factions { turks, moors, }
{
capability
{
agent diplomat 0 requires factions { turks, }
population_growth_bonus bonus 1 requires factions { turks, moors, }
}
material wooden
construction 2
cost 1600
settlement_min village
upgrades
{
waaargh_2
}
}
waaargh_2 requires factions { turks, moors, }
{
capability
{
agent diplomat 0 requires factions { turks, }
population_growth_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { turks, moors, }
}
material wooden
construction 8
cost 3200
settlement_min town
upgrades
{
waaargh_3
}
}
waaargh_3 requires factions { turks, moors, }
{
capability
{
agent diplomat 0 requires factions { turks, }
population_growth_bonus bonus 3 requires factions { turks, moors, }

It did indeed work, I was able to recruit orcishly named ottoman diplomats.

Now my problem actually is that those diplomats cannot engage anything for diplomatic negotiation, does anyone know how to give them the capability to do so?

I need diplomats because I am about to write an AAR about Orcs, but it is not possible to do it the way I want too if I can't have working diplomats.

Could someone in the know please help me with this, if so I will make sure to rep you into infinity.

Ok this is easy Just go here: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\teutonic\data and find a file called "descr_cursor_actions". Open it with notepad and you should see alot of stuff, dont worry it's not complicated at all. scroll down a bit until you see this in the code tags:


All you do is change a few things here and there (its really easy like i said ) Where the red text are, those ones you change. For instance you can see that under "over enemy", default Na tooltip cannot_perform_mission (it might be different in yours, nonetheless you should make these corrections in the same spots): this basically says that you cant perform missions...period(i think). This needs to be changed, so in order to do that replace the red with the green (below the red for convenience). Just go through and make the changes below. The Blue text explains some things and tells you what the letters mean (you can also check it out on the top of the descr_cursor_actions document for reference).

selected diplomat {when you select your diplomat and move your cursor over an object, these are what actions you are allowed to carry out}
{
    over own {Just ignore this whole section, if you mess with this your game might get screwy, but its easy to change if you feel like you need to}
    {
        initial_never_seen                             Mov Mov
        land                        Mov Mov
        sea                                Na Na                                tooltip characters_cannot_go_on_sea
        army                                Mer* (S) Mer (S)
        admiral                                Em*  (S) Em  (S)                                tooltip embark_character
        diplomat                                S  (S) S (S)
        princess                                S  (S) S (S)
        merchant                                S  (S) S (S)
        priest                                S  (S) S (S)
        heretic                                S  (S) S (S)
        witch                                S  (S) S (S)
        inquisitor                                S  (S) S (S)
        spy                                S  (S) S (S)
        assassin                                S  (S) S (S)
        family                                S  (S) S (S)
        settlement                                G* (S) G  (S)                                tooltip enter_settlement
        fort                                G* (S) G  (S)                                tooltip enter_fort
        rally_point                                Mov
        naval_rally_point                                Na Na                                tooltip characters_cannot_go_on_sea
        garrisoned_settlement                                G*  (S) G  (S)                                tooltip enter_settlement
        garrisoned_fort                                G*  (S) G  (S)                                tooltip enter_fort
        garrisoned_ship                                Em* (S) Em (S)                                tooltip embark_character
        sieged_settlement                                S                                tooltip cannot_enter_sieged_settlement
        sieged_fort                                S                                tooltip cannot_enter_sieged_fort
        garrisoned_dock                                Mer* (S) Mer (S)
        port                                Mov
        dock                                Na    
    }
    over enemy
    {
        default                                Na                                tooltip cannot_perform_mission
        default Na

        land                                Mov Mov
        sea                                Na Na                                tooltip characters_cannot_go_on_sea
        army                                Na Na                                tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission { Na = this means not available; cant carry out this specific action } 
        army                                TB Na                                tooltip diplomacy_mission { TB = this means that you can talk/bribe armies; basically initiate the normal diplomacy menu with bribe enabled}
        diplomat                                Na Na                                tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission
        diplomat                                T Na                                tooltip diplomacy_mission { T = this means you can just talk to characters/armies/settlements; initiating the diplomacy window without bribery } 
        princess                                Na Na                                tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission
        princess                                T Na                                tooltip diplomacy_mission
        family                                Na Na                                tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission
         family                                T Na                                tooltip diplomacy_mission
        settlement                                Na Na                                tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission
         settlement                                T Na                                tooltip diplomacy_mission
        fort.                                Na Na                                tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission
         fort                                T Na                                tooltip diplomacy_mission
        rally_point                                Mov
        naval_rally_point                                Na Na                                tooltip characters_cannot_go_on_sea
        garrisoned_settlement                                Na Na                                tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission
        garrisoned_settlement                                TB Na                                tooltip diplomacy_mission
        garrisoned_fort                                Na Na                                tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission
         garrisoned_fort                                TB Na                                tooltip diplomacy_mission
        port                                Mov
    }
    over allied
    {
        default                                Na
{ Just do the same thing here as you did above. Just replace the FIRST "Na"'s with "T" or "TB" (look above for reference). }
        land                                Mov Mov
        sea                                Na Na                                tooltip characters_cannot_go_on_sea
        army                                Na Na                                tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission
        diplomat                                Na Na                                tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission
        princess                                Na Na                                tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission
        family                                Na Na                                tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission    
        settlement                                Na Na                                tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission
        fort                                Na Na                                tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission
        rally_point                                Mov
        naval_rally_point                                Na Na                                tooltip characters_cannot_go_on_sea
        garrisoned_settlement                                Na Na                                tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission
        garrisoned_fort                                Na Na                                tooltip cannot_diplomacy_mission
        port                                Mov
    }
}

This is VERY monotonous so just bear with it. Just in-case you're wondering why i didn't attach my file with all the changes in place i have two reasons: 1: Ooops and 2: it doesnt hurt to learn a bit of modding a file (even though it's not that exciting)

Hope this Helps!!! (sorry if it's too much)

[Kahvipannu]

Can delete, wrong thread.

[Scipio praeditus]

The way you explained it there's nothing monotonous about it, takes just a minute at most.
My diplomats work now.

There is just one thing, in the "descr_cursor_actions" file I've got, the part concerning allies was already changed that way, the only thing that wasn't changed is the quoted part bellow.

over enemy
{
default Na tooltip cannot_perform_mission
default Na

So I decided to refrain from removing the "tooltip cannot_perform_mission" line in the "over enemy" part, and tried it out.

The diplomats can engage, but I'm wondering if not changing that line will affect anything?

Anyway, thanks for your excellent help, whenever I've spread my rep sufficiently you'll get some, for as long as I will remain on the TWC.