Do you think you can add the Hassasans order as a guild and mercenary units
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The Mosque of the Prophet in Medina (Al-Masjid al-Nabawi)
The second most holiest site in the Islamic faith, this great mosque is the burial place of Mohammed.
Over his grave rises the Green dome.
The mosque was built on the spot where Mohammed's house once stood in Medina. The original mosque was built in the Prophet's lifetime and was expanded by later Caliphs.
It's the second largest mosque in the world, after the Masjid al-Haram in Mecca.
I hope that this great building will be included in this super awesome mod.
I find it doubtable that this would be the second-most holy place just because a human being (doesn't matter if he is a model human being, he still is only a human being, though I've encountered someone who actually argued Muhammad wouldn't have pooped because he was obviously a literal figure of light, not a mere man) is buried there. Instead it is my understanding that the Qubbat As-Sakhrah is considered the second-most holy place in Islam, but that might just be a peculiarity of the Ahmadiyya -which is what I have been mostly interacting with- or the individual author.
no johann mate you are extremely wrong in finding that doubtable...
we Muslims consider that the holy mosque of our prophet Mohammed (PBUH)
is the second most holy place in the world,even more than the sacred al Aqsa mosque
and our prophet Mohammed told us that a prayer in his mosque in the sacred city of Medina
is like 1000 prayer in any other mosque and a prayer in al Aqsa mosque is like 500 prayer in any other mosque and the blessed body of the Greatest man ever is buried in that mosque,i mean surely the blessed prophet mohammed (PBUH) the man who really teached the world how to live in peace
how to love each other how to worship the one and only god and not to worship a man,fire,tree,cow,rat or even stone ! if u looked in history u will never find a man like him (PBUH).
Read Our Glorious History For More Information And Iam Always Here If U Want To Know Anything About Islam.
Okay, so it was officially as holy before he died... well in that case... I guess I must have been wrong.
ALso, that all being said, I would like to request the Dome of the Rock being actually added to the game.
I mean, it's really pretty and a very very very very very very very very very important Islamic site.
Wiki-link here with lots of pretty pictures too.
Also I would like to propose that some of the most important unique buildings should have significant nation-wide effects, this way you gain more and history-true incentive to actually fight for these historically important cities (other than them just the being big money making centres).
1. Lahore Fort
Altough the actual building dated later than the start of the game:
10% reduction on cost of buildings in LahoreIt cannot be said with certainty when the Lahore Fort was originally constructed or by whom, since this information is lost to history, possibly forever. However, evidence found in archaeological digs gives strong indications that it was built long before 1025 AD.
2. Great Mosque of Samarra
+5% religious conversion? or a bonus for fidelity of inhabitants in the near provinces for the ruler of Samarra
3. Burana Tower
4. Citadel of Bam
altough not an unique building, Bam should be a very high level castle; the images are impressive
5. Castle in Iordanian desert
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The grave of Abu Ayyub al-Ansari a close companion of the prophet in Constantinople. In 1174 it isn´t a real builing but it could have a strong effect on muslim conquerors and pilgrims.
"Abu Ayyub urges you to penetrate deeply into the territory of the enemy as far as you can go, that you should carry him with you and that you should bury him under your feet at the walls of Constantinople."
unique building suggestion in Solanki territory
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The Imam Reza shrine in the holy city of Mashad would be a great addition!
Idea: There was an extremely influential non-state based group which played a powerful role in the affairs of the Middle East during this time frame. Here's some ideas to give the Muslim brotherhood/sect known commonly as the Hashashin -- begun by the Persian Shia, Hasan Ibn al-Sabbah in 1090 -- a physical place to reside.
Building: Hashashin fotress of Alamut -or- failing that on the map, a unique Hashishin structure in either the nearby cities of Amol (capitol city of area) or Rayy (city where Hasan was born in 1048)
What many do not realize is that, this sect was not without headquarters, indeed they had a fortress -- called Alamut -- which Hasan, the founder, took by surprise in 1090. Unfortunately, the BC3 map does not include this fortress, opting instead for the capitol of the region (Malikate of Mazandaran) called Amol. A glance at the new 3.0 map shows the problem, and I would make a suggestion that I'm sure the devs would not look favorably upon - but that is to remove Amol and put Alamut instead, sightly south west in the same territory (See this map and you'll see why). If you absolutely refuse to do that consider some other way of incorporating a building where the power center of this sect can exist. The repercussions are yours to dream but I think 2 basics are in order -
1. Large Shia religious bonus/benefit - remember these guys where some of the intelligentsia of the time, very smart, very crafty, very influential (and very scary). Traits for imams and characters.
2. Large global benefit to assassin agents. If you own this place/building, and you're Shia, and you recruit assassins, they should be the best in the known world. It would be interesting game play for such a tiny faction to have too (assuming mazandaran starts with it and they are Shia) - that there may be true power in those few agents to change world events absent a large army. A unique faction to play.
For more convincing, this is a passage from "The Crusades Through Arab Eyes" by Amin Maalouf, a well respected and relatively unbiased tome. copyright 1984:
Anything in [brackets] are my notations - please read, this takes a long time to write out from the book in front of me!The Persian militant [and hashashin sect founder, Hasan who had left his home of Rayy to live in Egypt a while] would return to the heart of the Seljuk empire to pave way for the reconquest that Nizar [the Fatimid Caliph heir in Egypt] would undertake upon his accession to power. Hasan succeeded beyond his wildest dreams but by methods very different from those imagined by the virtuous Nizar. In 1090 he took the fortress of Alamut by surprise.This bastion, [translated] "the eagles nest," was situated in a practically in accessible region of the albruz mountains near the Caspian sea. Once he commanded this inviolable sanctuary, Hasan set about establishing a politico-religious organization whose effectiveness, and spirit of discipline would be unrivaled in all history.
All members from novices to grand master were ranked according to their level of knowledge [many were "physician-astrologers" and the like], reliability, and courage. The underwent intensive courses of indoctrination and physical training. [Maalouf argues that the Hashishin set about the ruin of the Seljuk empire with a single blade] The first murder, committed in 1092, two years after the sect was founded was an epic unto itself. The Seljuks were at the apogee of their power. The pillar of their empire... the architect of Sunni power and the struggle against Shi'ism [which the Hashishin's were] was an old Vizier - Nizam al Mulk. On 14 October 1092, one of Hasan's adherents killed him with a sword stroke.... the state disintegrated. Indeed the Seljuk Empire never recovered it's unity. It's history would now be punctuated not by further conquests, but by interminable wars of succession.
Ruins of Alamut
Their power only grew over time, even after the death of Hasan, and into the 1100's well into our time frame here. This power center at Alamut stood until the Mongols took it in 1256. Regarding events in the middle 1100's Maalouf notes: "Never had the threat represented by the Hashishin been so serious. They were no longer pests, but a plague torturing the Arab world at a time when all its energies were required to confront the Frankish occupation."
Iranian studies link to Alamut
Wiki link to Alamut
Map link showing proximity of Alamut (Alamoot) to Amol and Saari (Sari)
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