Can you change a general's bodyguard unit from mounted to dismounted?

[Athalwulf]

I've been wondering if this was possible because I dislike seeing Glorfindel, Elladan, and Elrohir with mounted bodyguard while Elrond gets a bodyguard unit of spearmen.

I also assume that if this is possible it's not save compatible.

[EOMER]

yes it is possible to change the bodyguards of heros

[Kamakai]

Aye but how? I dont like them on horses either even though Glorfndel is a horse master guy.

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Glorfindels picture freaks me out, its ugly and scary

[Athalwulf]

That's how Glorfindel was depicted in the movies.

And what exactly do I have to edit to make them non-mounted.

[Dea Paladin]

Ahh, you have to edit their unit in the model.db file. Press Ctrl+F and search for the hero you want. Or maybe it was the descr_stat? I dont really remember xD

[The Holy Pilgrim]

Go to the "descr_strat" file in your "imperial_campaign" folder (C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\Third_Age\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign), and find Glorfindel.

His section should look like this

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character Glorfindel, named character, male, age 46, x 31, y 248, portrait Glorfindel, battle_model glorfindel ;forlindon
traits Glorfindel 1 , LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 2 , ReligionStarter 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , Brave 1 , Just 1 , BattleChivalry 1
ancillaries troops_helf
army
unit Elf Nobel Mount exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Elf Archer exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Elf Archer2 exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

If you want them to have the same bodyguard as Elrond, just find his section

It should look like this

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character Elrond, named character, male, leader, age 50, x 185, y 250, portrait Elrond, hero_ability Righteousness_of_Faith ;imladris
traits Elrond 1 , Factionleader 1 , GoodCommander 2 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , PublicFaith 2 , MathematicsSkill 1 , ReligionStarter 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , Just 1 , KindRuler 2 , BattleChivalry 2
ancillaries vilya, leader_council, librarian, lord_imladris
army
unit Elf Spear_BG exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Elf Archer exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Elf Archer exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Elf Archer2 exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

Just copy the first unit in Elrond's army and replace Glorfindel's first unit.

Glorfindel's section should now look like this

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character Glorfindel, named character, male, age 46, x 31, y 248, portrait Glorfindel, battle_model glorfindel ;forlindon
traits Glorfindel 1 , LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 2 , ReligionStarter 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , Brave 1 , Just 1 , BattleChivalry 1
ancillaries troops_helf
army
unit Elf Spear_BG exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Elf Archer exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Elf Archer2 exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

Glorfindel should now have Spearmen for bodyguards, just like Elrond. You can also do this for any other general in any mod.

Note: Elrond's section did NOT change in this transfer. It should still look the same.

Hope that helped

[Ellin Athinaios]

For the starting generals you have to edit their bodyguard unit in descr_strat, and in export_descr_unit for everyone else.

[Raiven]

Aye but how? I dont like them on horses either even though Glorfndel is a horse master guy.

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Glorfindels picture freaks me out, its ugly and scary

Agree you about picture! He realy dont look like one of mightiest elven wariors in that one!

[Kamakai]

Aww this doesnt work with me...

[ackrite26]

Aww this doesnt work with me...

What submods are you running?

[Kamakai]

None

[Påsan]

Then i ask you, is it possible to make a hero use the "sweihandeler" animation instead of the basic sword animation.. ?

[Chyeaaaa111]

Then i ask you, is it possible to make a hero use the "sweihandeler" animation instead of the basic sword animation.. ?

I know what your getting at. Aragorn with a two handed sword. The problem is that only changes the type of bodyguard the unit has. It has nothing to do with the hero himself.

But you could have a two handed sword bodyguard if you wanted.

[confused german]

You had to alter the files, that determine behaviour of the general model and somehow switch the skeleton.
I think I've seen these files and so don't think this is hardcoded, but rather pro-modder business.
I suggest you go to the mod-workshop area and ask for help and information there.
Regards.

[el Cid]

This really is easy, just edit descr_strat and edit the first unit in the row.

If you want for example, dismount an existing unit you will have to edit edu and modeldb aswell.

Generals animations are very hard to do though, but possible.

In Broken Crescent the Byzantine general has a twohanded sword.

[Wesserd]

I know what your getting at. Aragorn with a two handed sword. The problem is that only changes the type of bodyguard the unit has. It has nothing to do with the hero himself.

But you could have a two handed sword bodyguard if you wanted.

Thats to bad, it would be really cool to have legolas with 2 swords of something.

btw, who is dat girl on your pic? damn.

[bps08]

Yaaaa

[Påsan]

Well.. Heroes anomations for me is kinda important, a small but rather essensial detail as the heroes are rather what the lotr movie/books are about.

So gimli uses a two handed axe, but with one handed animation.
Aragorn uses his sword as a one handed, while it shuld really be a two handler.
same goes for all the elven heroes.

[Bersian]

For the starting generals you have to edit their bodyguard unit in descr_strat, and in export_descr_unit for everyone else.

What would I look for here? And can I use any unit at all?

Found what needs to be edited. Do I need to create a whole new bodyguard unit? I'm changing eriador over to BR Dunedain. So in descrir_unit or whatever I need to create a BR Dunedain BG, right? Do I just copy the BR Dunedain part and add "BG" to it? Confused...

[eugenioso]

fun fact: you could mount/dismount units at the pre battle screen in the original medieval total war.