Re: Ages of Darkness *** THE NIKA RIOTS *** PREVIEW
I want to playyyyyyyyyy....Now if posible!
May i sugest a shiled change?
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Give Excubitoi the shield you made for the Candidates.
The reason is simple.
In all military manuals it has been said that the colours of each unit determind the colours of the shields also...
I am not saying that your choice is wrong because nothing is certain...I am saying that following that "rule" would make things look more natural!
I am waiting the "german" mercenaries to slauter those rebels!!!
This mod will be the 1st that will teach history with almost 100% accuracy!
Congratulations to the entire team!
Re: Ages of Darkness *** THE NIKA RIOTS *** PREVIEW
Originally Posted by AnthoniusII
May i sugest a shiled change?
Oh my friend
I think I said everything about that issue before. Meanwhile I feel also a little bit bored about that discussion.
I wouldn't say "nothing is certain". We have several things which are certain concerning the equipment of some bodyguard units. We have written tales - underlined by findings.
But we haven't a manual or a written description which explicit say that shield symbol A belongs to unit B.
(there are some exceptions like the Domestici - because they are listed in the ND!)
Anyway, if empio has the feeling that your suggestion is a good one concerning the aesthetics then he can change it. But this is his own decision.
Last edited by Pompeius Magnus; January 01, 2010 at 05:17 PM.
Re: Ages of Darkness *** THE NIKA RIOTS *** PREVIEW
The best preview I have ever seen !!! I am stunned, can't wait to see cavalry units. If eastern roman empire rebels are so amazing, then empire will be really supreme
Re: Ages of Darkness *** THE NIKA RIOTS *** PREVIEW
Great preview, all the units are simply piece of art.
aside from the units that's my favorite pic it's like a panorama of Constantinople,the column of Justinian rocks !!! http://img197.imageshack.us/i/0060j.jpg/
Re: Ages of Darkness *** THE NIKA RIOTS *** PREVIEW
@Jermagon
it's the original (vanilla) Circus Maximus. It is only a placeholder.
A new preview will come soon about our new 3D buildings (including the new Hippodrom).
That's the reason why I don't want speak too much about the buidlings now. Also the customized settlemet plan of Constantinople isn't finish yet. And karlo makes some new 3D buidlings right now (e.g. Hippodrom + church of holy apostles)
So you see; a lot of new stuff arrives in the next few days.
@Ostrogoth
Originally Posted by Ostrogoth
... If eastern roman empire rebels are so amazing, then empire will be really supreme
I'm not sure what you mean. The soldiers shown in this preview are normal "Eastern Romans".
They fight against the Blues. But also the Blues are part of the regular unit pool of the Romans.
Last edited by Pompeius Magnus; January 01, 2010 at 12:27 PM.
Re: Ages of Darkness *** THE NIKA RIOTS *** PREVIEW
short answer: yes, of course.
Rome was still the spiritual center of the known world and christianity (beside Constantinople).
We will also make several new 3D models for that city like the Basilika of Constantine (ancient St.Peter) and others.
Re: Ages of Darkness *** THE NIKA RIOTS *** PREVIEW
I see unit cards are not done, are you going to do unit cards after you finish doing all units? Are new building icons and unit descriptions in same state?
Re: Ages of Darkness *** THE NIKA RIOTS *** PREVIEW
I see unit cards are not done, are you going to do unit cards after you finish doing all units? Are new building icons and unit descriptions in same state?
I would be very surprised if AOD2-team spent many years making this mod and then release it in an unfinished state. Don´t you think? There are priorities in making a mod. I´m 110% sure there will be unitcards eventually.
Re: Ages of Darkness *** THE NIKA RIOTS *** PREVIEW
Great preview and info. Fantastic units.
These circusfactions really have some similarities to the more modern "huliganism" of modern football.(although in this case there is a political and military dimension as well)
I have also read that outright abuse of an emperor in the circus was not unknown(perhaps the only place for the populace to went their anger at this time)
John the Lydian gives an example.
A lampoon(satire) in four elegiac couplets, posted up at the hippodrome at Constatinople in early 6 centry(510-515), attacking the Emperor Anastasius at a time when his financial policy was being carried out through Marinus The Syrian, who was pretorian prefect of the East. Anastasius is named: he is addressed as "basileu kosmophtore"(world-destroying emperor) and he is accused of "money-grubbing"(philochremosyne) and Marinus is named only as Scylla to his Charybdis.
There were also milder demonstrations, for example at Alexandria mentioned by Philo, who says he saw an audinece rising to its feet and shouting with enthusiasm at the mention of "the name of freedom" in the "Auge" a play of Euripides now lost to us.
Re: Ages of Darkness *** THE NIKA RIOTS *** PREVIEW
Originally Posted by Athenogoras
(although in this case there is a political and military dimension as well)
your tales and examples are 100% correct. I have nothing to add.
The so called factiones became an extremly influencial part of the empire.
I have some tales that even families were divided because the son was member of the Whites and the farther of the Blues. The sister married a men - member of the Greens.And everybody made his own political business.
The Hippodrom was indeed used to give a voice to the people. And this was also wished by the emperors. It is important to understand that the palace area was huge like a small independant city - and the emperors (many/ not all!) never moved out of the gates.
So, they had no idea about the real feelings of the streets.
The informations which passed the gates to the palace were filtered by an army of eunuchs, officers, officials and servants. The informations given in the Hippodrom weren't filtered, it was the reality.
In Wikipedia you can read that after the riots were finished the political parties nealry disapperared and had no power anymore.
And this isn't true.
Some years after the riots the Blues were powerful again (in the capital as well as in other cities) and they were used again to protect the walls of several cities. They never gained the same power like before the riots, however, they still were an important element of the empire.
Last edited by Pompeius Magnus; January 01, 2010 at 02:10 PM.
Re: Ages of Darkness *** THE NIKA RIOTS *** PREVIEW
In Wikipedia you can read that after the riots were finished the political parties nealry disapperared and had no power anymore.
And this isn't true.
Yes, in fact their importance seems to have grown from the late 6th century onwards and especially from the reign of Heraclius in the first half of the seventh century, where they(the circus-factions) were given a more important role in imperial ceremonial.
I wonder will the cult of the virgin, the "Theotokos", at Constantinople be featured. Or is this a later development out of the mods timeframe?