Improved B.A.I. Darthmod lite

[La♔De♔Da♔Brigadier Graham]

Have you got the Ornamenteum mod in your TAR Script??, if so delete as it is already in the TAR_Booster pack.

No it seems to be another corrupt download for me old bean, I couldn't open any of the ornamentum diffuse files with photo-shop, so its as you said another corrupt download, alright I will try to download one more time, pity thought it takes an age to download old boy!

[nigelnire]

Ok Just had a custom battle with a mixture of 50% TAR and 50% vanilla units. You can see from the screenshot ( Sorry about the thunderstorm) That’s it’s a much better battle line with no melee early in this battle at all in fact it was a big improvement on when I used just TAR units. One of the American regiments that was a bit further back in the line was a light infantry regiment and had more range so opened fire earlier. So much better with a mixture of TAR and vanilla units
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/703/tardarth3.jpg

[ToonTotalWar]

No it seems to be another corrupt download for me old bean, I couldn't open any of the ornamentum diffuse files with photo-shop, so its as you said another corrupt download, alright I will try to download one more time, pity thought it takes an age to download old boy!

Its can also be mate that you are in Indonesia with dodgy internet connection will also cause problems!!

[ToonTotalWar]

Ok Just had a custom battle with a mixture of 50% TAR and 50% vanilla units. You can see from the screenshot ( Sorry about the thunderstorm) That’s it’s a much better battle line with no melee early in this battle at all in fact it was a big improvement on when I used just TAR units. One of the American regiments that was a bit further back in the line was a light infantry regiment and had more range so opened fire earlier. So much better with a mixture of TAR and vanilla units
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/703/tardarth3.jpg

Ok thats good, i am a bit concerned at your pics in post 273 showing the units going into melee?? hmm...this has me stumped!!
I just played a campaign game with mix of Vanilla and Custom units and all ok?? maybe it was just the one game as you will still get random AI in some games, also any Custom Battle maps with Contours and Hills will give you BAI problems, as this seems to cause problems with troops keeping line etc..

[MorganH.]

Must be that file and rank spacings for sure then
Indeed the AWi units go more crisscross then vanilla units
And AWI mixed with vanilla,as GC battles are,behave better then without!

[ToonTotalWar]

Must be that file and rank spacings for sure then
Indeed the AWi units go more crisscross then vanilla units
And AWI mixed with vanilla,as GC battles are,behave better then without!

I will adjust some of the units and try in a battle?? lets see what happens eh!!

[DARTH VADER]

Toon, sorry. I am really in a vacation mode. I think I have done my job. I explained to everyone as I could. My updates have swift information about every change for someone to read. My files are open to examine. It is now a personal endeavor, as it was for me, for every modder to find the solution on how to implement the perfect BAI. It may be not exactly the same as in DarthMod because the game engine is chaotic, so some changes would need some other values? Who knows. I know that DarthMod 4,6 works as intented and I have openly explained as much as I could.

Merry Christmas!

[nigelnire]

Must be that file and rank spacings for sure then
Indeed the AWi units go more crisscross then vanilla units
And AWI mixed with vanilla,as GC battles are,behave better then without!

That’s exactly what im finding Morgan. Toon it was only individual units that entered into melee early on in those screens (100% TAR) and it was nowhere near as bad as the mass melees with 1.5

[nigelnire]

Last battle tonight was with just TAR units on the same alpine map for comparison on same terrain that I had good results with a mixture of TAR and Vanilla. As seen in this earlier screen
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/703/tardarth3.jpg Tar and Vanilla
Once again with the TAR units I found their battle line to be disjointed although they kept firing and there was no melee for some minutes.
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7965/tardarth4.jpg just TAR units
As you can see I have put a line under the last British regiment in my line. In the middle the lines not too bad but on their right they are at angles and on their left flank one American regiment is isolated.

[ToonTotalWar]

Ok i have readjusted the file and rank spacing to mirror Darths BAI but the disjointed lines are still in game!! in fact i feel that it has got much worse, now i have only tried in Custom Battles games, and some of the Campaign games i was getting better results!
Can all beta testers check there PM for latest version of TAR_beta and try out please and let me know if it is any better after i have changed the above? thanks

[MorganH.]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=319407

[ToonTotalWar]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=319407

I hope this is released sooner than later!!!

[MorganH.]

Do you still want me to test todays latest Beta mate ?

**edit** Ok ill get on it !!!

[La♔De♔Da♔Brigadier Graham]

Brilliant stuff eh chaps,I am chuffed me!

[ToonTotalWar]

Do you still want me to test todays latest Beta mate ?

Yes please lads, i am at work today so would appreciate all Beta testers to try out as i am concerned that the changes i made did not make any diffrence!!
Only way i see the BAI working is:

1. Play only Vanilla units
2. Play with 50/50 of Vanilla and TAR units
3. CA fix the BAI and we will all be happy!!!
4. I am not buying Napolean Total War either!!!

[MorganH.]

It Did make a difference Toon,it did!!!
Untill we all get an official CA patch for this,you know Now how to make the custom TAR units work properly for sure,because this latest Beta is more then GREAT!!!

2 battles;
1.10 custom american units,240 men per unit v 10 British line units,also custom units !!(100% custom all)

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Only,as you can see in the 3th screen, the left flank(about 3 units) moved in slight angles,but maybe that was because of my general and arty behind it,or they were on their way to perform some flanking, But No issue whatsoever imo !

2nd battle; 5 American custom line units + 5 vanilla line units v 10 British line

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So again Straight lines,keeping up fire and again No melee(outer 2 units went for some flanking encirclement,and thats good)

i say;Great Work Toon,lets Keep it !!

[ToonTotalWar]

Morgan - How did ya get the unit sizes to 240 etc...as i set the darth units to the Vanilla sizes so Line = 160 / Ultra etc..?? please clarify

[MorganH.]

Morgan - How did ya get the unit sizes to 240 etc...as i set the darth units to the Vanilla sizes so Line = 160 / Ultra etc..?? please clarify

preference script mate,set the unit multiplier from 1 to 1.5 and voila !(unit scale has to be 3 btw)
Poms Britmod(first battle) i have added myself to TAR,so it aint been reversed to TAR standards yet,thats why the 450 men per unit,and prolly also the cause of the angling of the left AI flank,but hopefully you are gonna add Poms BritMod to TAR 2.0 right?

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[ToonTotalWar]

preference script mate,set the unit multiplier from 1 to 1.5 and voila !(unit scale has to be 3 btw)

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Ah ok, so you cheated and did it this way!!!
hmm....as my next option was to increase the unit sizes for the TAR units to match Darths BAI mod etc...as i think you need Darths unit sizes for the BAI mod to work properly!!, but using the multiplyer in Script gives the same affect.

ok i will give a go tonight and thanks for the testing today, you have impressed me today and the "rebel alliance" needs good soldiers like you, and i feel the force is strong in you young Jedi apprentice!!!

[MorganH.]

''Young "' ?? Im older then you my friend,but i get your point !!
Allways a pleasure !!