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    Icon2 Unit ideas of The Ottoman Empire for Elite Units of the East (included 3D Model)

    DLCs which were already released are quite good and realistic. They include existed units. However, DLC which will be done for far cultures such as eastern will be as realistic as others? At least I want to start this thread to give some ideas. For sure, these units ARE NOT units which I want to see in elite units of the east. CA should search and decide which units can be or should be added.


    Models from Ottoman Empire: Realism MOD v1.2

    Akincis
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    Albanian Militia
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    Anatolian Sipahis
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    Azaps
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    Baghdat Cavalry
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    Binbashi or Elit Nizam-ı Cedits
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    Bosniak Lancers
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    Cairo Janissary
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    Cebelus
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    Deli
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    Kapiqulu
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    Sekban Grenadier
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    Sekbans (edited)
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    Sipahis
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    Tufekcis
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    Usta Janissary
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    And important

    REAL Azzars - Skin color is realistic for Ottoman.
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    HORRIBLE AZZARS (etw's default unit)
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    Default Re: Unit ideas of The Ottoman Empire for Elite Units of the East

    Never happen, good idea though.
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    beautiful. The Ottoman Empire had a long history of ornate & colorful costumes along with a huge variety of infantry. It's a shame the original game doesn't reflect the variety found in eastern militaries of the time. Good work btw.

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    +rep Nizam, those units are beautiful indeed.

    but u know..CA thinks that the US, and GB are neglected somehow. *hypocrites*
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    i got still faith...

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    Default Re: Unit ideas of The Ottoman Empire for Elite Units of the East (included 3D Model)

    Haha, Ottomans sure loved dying in Goofy costumes and hats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Augment View Post
    Haha, Ottomans sure loved dying in Goofy costumes and hats.
    Best to go out in style.

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    Default Re: Unit ideas of The Ottoman Empire for Elite Units of the East (included 3D Model)

    Searching the internet I found this quite comprehensive list of the order of battle of the Ottoman (and Mameluk) army during the napoleonic ages. Some of the units listed here could easily be classified as elite and make a nice addition to the Ottoman faction in the game.

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    "1790-1826

    Europe

    1. Infantry
    99th Djeemat Janissary Orta: 2000 Dervishes
    55th Djeemat Janissary Otra: 1000? weapons instructors
    6 Djeemat Chasseur Janissary Ortas (35th, 39th, 44th, 64th, 68th & 71st)
    @ 500 skirmishers
    93 other Djeemat Janissary Ortas@ 500 men on average
    59 Benluk Janissary Ortas@ 500 men average
    31st Benluk Marine Janissary Orta: 5000 men
    with 2 regular skirmish Bttns@ 500 men, rifles, regular trained
    60 Boluks (companies)@ 100 Rayas rifle armed skirmishers attached to Janissaries
    34 Segban Acemi Oglan trainee Janissary Ortas@ 300 men on average
    500 Coroudjis Guard Janissaries "foresters" – skirmish capable
    500 Solak Guard Janissaries (Benluk Ortas 60-63) – skirmish capable
    12,000 Bostanci Guard Infantry
    1st Nizam-i-Jedid Regiment: 2 Bttns@ 1200 men, (1799-1807)
    1 Topiji Battery: 10x 6pdr guns
    2nd Nizam-i-Jedid Regiment: 2 Bttns@ 1200 men (1800-1807)
    10 other Nizam-i-Jedid Regiments@ 2 Bttns@ 750 men (1804-07 in Anatolia)
    5000 other Nizam-i-Jedid infantry (1806-1808 in Balkans)
    6 Nizam-i-Segban Regiments@ 2 Bttns@ 800 men (1808 only)
    3000 Yamak Auxiliary fortress guards
    10,000 Rumeli mountian irregulars
    15,000 Greek Martolos (Derbents)
    25,000 Anatolian Sekhans
    25,000 Albanian Sekhans
    2000 Moldavian skirmishers mounted on mules
    2000 Bulgarian Derbents
    6000 Croat mountain irregulars
    1000 Greek Kapoi guards
    3000 Transylvanian Haiduk irregular infantry
    2000 Moroccan Sekhan mercenaries
    3000 Anatolian mountain irregulars
    3000 Anatolian Derbents
    15,000 occasionally allied Greek infantry of Ali Pasha of Janina (List T7N)
    Allied Bosnian army (List T9N)
    2. Cavalry
    50,000 Anatolian Sipahis (on paper – poor local militia from 1807)
    10,000 Albanian Sipahis (on paper – poor local militia from 1807)
    20,000 Rumeli Sipahis (on paper – poor local militia from 1807)
    15,000 Yoruks (Anatolian, Rumeli, Bosnian)
    300+ Macedonian Yoruks
    8000 Silahtar (ex-Guard) Suvarileri heavy cavalry
    10,000 Sipahi Oglan Guard Suvarileri heavy cavalry
    5000 Left & Right Ulefeciyan Suvarileri medium cavalry
    5000 Left & Right Gureba Suvarileri medium cavalry
    10,000 Sipahis of the Porte trained lancers
    400 Sultan's Mounted Life Guard heavy cavalry
    100 Guard Mamelukes of the Grand Vezier lancers
    100 Guard Mamelukes of the Grand Seignoir lancers
    500 Guard Mamelukes of Constantinople lancers
    100 Gonullu Guard Djellis
    100 Life Watch Guides Guard Djellis
    18,000 Syrian light cavalry
    10,000 Kurdish Light Horse (24 regiments)
    6000 Bosnian, Serb and Croat Djellis
    3000 Kurdish Djellis
    2000 Anatolian Turkish Djellis
    2000 Ukrainian Cossack mercenaries
    4000 Wallachian light cavalry
    10,000 Tarter light cavalry
    5000 Transylvanian light cavalry
    1000 Egyptian Mamelukes
    4000 Nizam-i-Jedid regular lancers (4 or 6 units, 1800-1808 only)
    10,000 Kerchalies mounted infantry (Rumelia/Bulgaria) in units of 1000 men

    3. Artillery and Engineers
    Topijis (regular artillery):
    25 Foot Batteries@ 1 Section: 4x French 6pdr field guns
    or 4x Turkish 4pdr or 8pdr or 14pdr Sahi field guns
    1 Section: 4x 60-120pdr Balyemez old heavy guns
    1 Section: 2x 8pdr, 14pdr, 20pdr or 25pdr Abus howitzers
    3 (in 1808-12) (5 by 1815) Sultan's Guard Horse Batteries@ 10x 6pdr guns (1808+)
    4+ French mercenary Foot Batteries@ 6x 6pdr guns (1807+)
    Humbaraci (regular mortar corps, 1793+)
    1 Siege Btty: 10x 25" mortars, 190 gunner-engineers
    1 Siege Btty: 10x 14" 200pdr mortars, 190 gunner-engineers
    1 Siege Btty: 10x 8½" 25pdr mortars, 190 gunner-engineers
    1 Siege Btty: 10x 5½" mortars, 190 gunner-engineers
    1 Siege Btty: 5x 8pdr Abus and 5x 14-20pdr Abus howitzers, 190 gunner-engineers

    250 Lagimcilar engineers
    # pontoon bridges
    45? provincial batteries@ 2-4-6-10x guns from 4pdr Sahi to 120pdr Balymez
    2 Russian deserter batteries@ 10x 12pdr guns (eastern Anatolia)
    Dardenelles coastal artillery: 7 bttys each side sharing 253 guns and 15 mortars
    Istanbul coastal artillery: 6 bttys@ 10x 800lb fixed waterline guns
    Artillery Barracks: 24x 10" Culverins (120pdrs?) on carriages
    Palace: 1 Spanish battery (Spanish crews)
    4. Notes
    a) Janissary Ortas are organised into 2 wings each of 5 companies.
    b) Most other infantry are organised into Ortas of 300-500 men, and formed into groups ("brigades") of 1-6 Ortas, 1200 men being an average group strength.
    c) Most cavalry are organised into Ortas of 10 squadrons, each squadron nominally of 100 men. Light cavalry tend to be in regiments of 400-500 men, Tarters and Djellis regiments up to 800 men strong.
    d) Only the Nizam-i-Jedid/Segbans, Marine Janissary skirmishers and limited numbers of (about 1 in 6 units) Albanian and Anatolian Sekhans are trained in European style column-line-square tactics.

    e) About one-third of Albanian Sekhans can be uprated to Arnauts, which are skirmish capable.

    1. Mameluke Army July 21st 1798
    Battle of Embaba ("Battle of the Pyramids").
    Estimated Egyptian deployments:
    West Bank East Bank
    Murad Bey Ibrahim Bey
    5100 Mamelukes 2000 Mamelukes
    12000 Mameluke Foot Servants 400 Guard Mamelukes
    300 Guard Mamelukes 5000 Mameluke Foot Servants
    2000 Maghrebi Sekhans 18000 Fellahin
    1000 Bedouin Foot 1000 Bedouin foot
    2000 Bedouin cavalry
    Abu Bekir Pasha, Ottoman Governor
    Embaba fortified camp
    4 batteries@ 10 guns (old type, Albanian gunners)
    500 Janissary infantry
    600 Mamelukes
    2. Notes
    a) Mamelukes were usually in regiments of 1000 cavalry with 2000 foot servants, who in theory followed up collecting discarded weapons and finishing off any wounded.
    b) Fellahin were in 'battalions' of about 1000 men.

    c) Sekhan infantry and Janissaries were in Ortas of 1000 men usually, 10 companies to the Orta. Each Orta has a Left & Right Wing, each of 5 companies, these generally equating to European battalions. Bedouin gathered together fighting in bands of 300-400 men.
    d) Only Mamelukes, Sekhans, and Janissaries can form close order lines and columns, all the rest are loose order irregulars. No infantry can form square.
    e) Murad was defeated, 2000 Mamelukes fleeing south, 3000 being killed, 1000 troops captured. Ibrahim Bey on the east bank fled with bodyguard Mamelukes and others to Syria, taking the Ottoman Pasha with him.
    f) This order of battle has been derived from and cross- referenced with several contemporary and modern sources, including one Egyptian translation, so is most likely the most correct version produce to date in English.
    g) See List AR6N for more details of the Egyptian army of
    the period, and weapons carried by each troop type."


    Source: http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=145913
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    If CA does release a new dlc they definentally need to include the usta Janissarys. Thats what comes to mind when I think janissary

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    Quote Originally Posted by theflyingsamurai View Post
    If CA does release a new dlc they definentally need to include the usta Janissarys. Thats what comes to mind when I think janissary

    Quote Originally Posted by Nizam View Post
    For sure, these units ARE NOT units which I want to see in elite units of the east. CA should search and decide which units can be or should be added.

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    nice, though I think it won't only be Ottoman units, maybe eastern europe to like Poland lithaunia or Russia.

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    Its not really gonna be elite units of the east, more elite units for the countries who need them

    these all happen to be east-ish

    Austria
    Poland
    Ottomans
    Maratha

    Russia were included in west DLC, so probably not them

    sweden needs units though


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    Illustrations of Ottoman Soldiers

    Prints after Caspar Luyken of Ottomans from Abraham a Sancta Clara's Neu-eröffnete Welt-Galleria, 1703 after Luyken


    A Turkish Border Pasha after Luyken
    A Janissary after Luyken
    A Peik after Luyken
    A Eunuch after Luyken
    An archer of the Turkish Galleys - Azab after Luyken
    A Tartar after Luyken
    Mustapha II, Ottoman Sultan after Luyken
    A Turkish mute after Luyken
    Tribute Children after Luyken
    The Koran Carrier after Luyken
    A Janissary in Full Dress after Luyken
    A Turkish Border Pasha - Delli after Luyken

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    Prints after Caspar Luyken of Ottomans from Abraham a Sancta Clara's Neu-eröffnete Welt-Galleria, 1703



    Prints of Ottomans after Jean-Baptiste Vanmour, 1699-1708

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    The Great Lord in ceremonial dress for the day of Beiram
    The Great Lord in the Seraglio, with the Kizlar Ağası
    The Sultana Asseki or Sultana Queen
    The Kizlar Ağası, head of the black eunuchs. He is the keeper of the harem of the Great Lord
    Kapısı Ağası (Ak Ağa), or chief of the white eunuchs
    The Ibriktar Agasi, Officer who washes the Great Lord
    The Silahtar Ağası, or sword bearer of the Great Lord
    İç Oglan, Page intended to serve the Lord in the Grand Seraglio
    Peyk, Page of the Sultan, who follows him on foot when he comes out
    Zülüflü Baltacı - page destined to guard the imprisoned Princes
    Bölük Başı, Executive Chef of the Great Lord
    Ast-chi, the Great Lord's cook
    Halvadgi or confectioner to the Serail
    The Çavuş Baş, Chief Bailiff
    Kapısı Başı, or Master of Ceremonies
    Solak Başı, or Captain of the of the Guards of the Great Lord
    Solak, Guard of the Great Lord
    The Bostancı Başı, or the superintendent of the Gardens, in ceremonial dress
    Kasseki, Officer of bostanjis
    The Mufti, or chief of the Law
    The Kazasker (Kadi El Asker), Chief of the military laws. There is one for European and one for Asian
    Emir, man of Law of Muhammad's Race
    Imam, Minister of a Mosque
    Effendi, Man of law in his Study
    Dervish, or Turkish monk that spins through devotion
    Saka, Charitable Dervish who brings water for the city and gives charity
    Sadrazam, the Grand Vizier, in Ceremonial Dress and Turban
    Şatırı, or Grand Vizier's Footman
    Yeniçeri Orta Ağası, or commander of Janissaries
    Çorbaçı, colonel of the Janissaries
    Ast-chi-Bashi, Cook and Officer of the Janissaries
    Janissary in ceremonial dress
    Jannissary in ordinary turban
    Sipahi or Turkish Cavalryman
    Serdengeçti or Volunteer
    The Kaptan Başı, or Grand Admiral in ceremonial dress
    Bey, Galley Captain
    Levent, or Marine
    Aga, or Turkish gentleman
    Tchelebi, young Turkish lord
    Turk in winter dress
    Turk praying
    Turkish lover who cuts his arm in front of his mistress to show his love
    Turkish child being lead to circumcision
    Turkish woman who smokes on the sofa
    Turkish woman resting on the sofa after her bath
    Turkish woman spinning on a tandour
    Turkish girl taking coffee on the sofa
    Turkish girl whose hair is braided at the bath
    Turkish girl playing the canon
    Turkish girl playing a Tchegour
    Turkish girl who embroiders
    Turkish girls who plays a mangala
    Tchinguis, or Turkish dancer
    Tchingui, Turkish dancer
    Coffee seller in the streets
    Halvadgi, seller of jams in the streets
    Itinerant barber
    Saka, or water carrier in the streets
    Ciğerci, Albanian who carries livers of sheep to feed the cats at Bezestein
    French merchant
    Wife of a Frenchman, going to bathe
    Jew
    Jewish woman in ceremonial dress
    Jewish woman, a broker bringing her goods to young Turkish women who can not get out
    The patriarch of the Greeks
    Greek priest
    Greek woman in her apartment
    Novi, or greek girl in a wedding ceremony
    Greek of the islands of the archipelago, playing the Tabour
    Girl from Naxos, an island of the archipelago
    Girl from Tinos, an island of the archipelago
    Girl of Argentiere, an island of the archipelago
    Girl of Chios, an island in the archipelago
    Girl of St. John of Patmos, an island of the archipelago
    Hungarian
    Hungarian female
    Albanian Soldier, Arnaut
    Princess of Wallachia
    Wallachian nobleman
    Wallachian lady
    Bulgarian
    Bulgarian girl
    Crimean Tatar
    Dergoumidas, Armenian priest condemned by the Grand Vizier Ali Pasha, martyred 5th November 1707
    An Armenian who goes to church to get married, accompanied by a companion bringing his sword
    Armenian girl, who is conducted to the church to marry
    Armenian architect
    Armenian of Persia
    Persian
    Female Persian
    Dervish of India
    Indian
    Arab of the Desert
    Clothing of the Barbary Coast
    Tunisian in ceremonial dress
    Tunisian in Negligee
    African woman going outdoors
    Moorish Woman
    Turkish wedding
    Turkish Burial
    The dervishes of Pera in their Temple, whirling

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    Paintings of Ottomans by Jean-Baptiste Vanmour, 1699-1737
    Prints of Ottomans after Jean-Baptiste Vanmour, 1699-1708

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    18th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers

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    Icon3 Re: Unit ideas of The Ottoman Empire for Elite Units of the East (included 3D Model)

    Here is a more extensive collection of Nicolas de Nicolay's 1570s illustrations in
    HISTOIRE DES TURCS, TOME SECOND, by Blaise de Vigenere. Paris, 1663.:
    The large images:
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    Aga, Captain General of the Janissaries
    Kadi al askar, The Executor of the Laws in Turkey
    Boluk Bashi, Captain of One Hundred Janissaries
    Solak, Ordinary Archer of the Guard of the Great Lord
    Yeniceri (Janissary) Soldier of the Foot Guard
    Yeniceri (Janissary) Going To War
    Azab
    The Azamoglans or Tribute Children
    Rustic Azmoglans
    Peik or Lackey of the Grand Turk
    Old Dress or Manner of Peiks or Lackeys of the Great Lord
    The Players of the Great Lord called Guressis or Pleuianders
    Pleuianders Players
    Delli, or otherwise Fool-hardy
    Drunken Turks belonging to Azamoglans, Leventis and Azabs
    Turkish Cook
    Greek Villager Called Voinuk
    Jewish Doctor
    Turkish Religious Giomailer
    Turkish Religious Calender
    Turkish Religious Dervish
    Turkish Religious Torlaquis
    Religious Turk
    Emir, Relative of Mohammed
    Moorish pilgrims parade in Mecca
    Water Carrier For The Mecca Pilgrims
    Persian Gentleman
    Greek Gentleman
    Greek Merchant
    Jewish Merchant
    Armenian Merchant
    Merchant Of Ragusa
    Knave From Ragusa, Or Letter Carrier
    Arab Merchant
    Moorish Slave
    Turkish Great Lady
    Turk Going To The Bath
    The Turkish Gentle Woman In Her House Or Palace
    Turkish Minor Noble Woman In A Room
    Turkish Woman Going To The City
    Turkish Woman Leading Infants
    Merry Turkish Girl
    Turkish Woman, Dressed Like A Moor
    Greek Noble Woman Of The City Of Pera
    Gentle Woman in western dress
    Noble Greek Girl Of The City Of Pera
    Noble Woman Of The City Of Adrianople Town Of Thrace
    Jewish Woman From Adrianople
    Jewish Girl From Adrianople
    Greek Villager
    Macedonian Woman
    Woman From The Island Of Chios
    Girl From The Island Of Chios
    Woman Of Carmania
    Woman Dressed Like A Syrian
    Persian Woman
    Moorish Woman From Tripoli in Barbary
    Mavre Women Of Algiers In Barbary Going To The City
    Moorish Girl, Slave In Algiers, Town Of Barbary
    Woman From The Island Of Malta


    A version including the plate descriptions in French:
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    Aga Capitaine General Des Janissaires
    Cadilescher
    Boluch Bassi Capitaine De Cent Janissaires
    Solachi Archers Ordinaires De La Garde Du Grand Seigneur
    Janissaire Ou Jennitzarler Soldat A Pied De La Garde
    Janissaire Allant A La Guerre
    Azape
    Des Azamoglans Ou Enfans De Tribut
    Des Azmoglans Rustiques
    Des Peichs Ou Laquais Du Grand Turc
    Habit Ou Maniere Ancienne Des Paichs Ou Laquais Du Grand Seigneur
    Des Luicteurs Du Grand Seigneur Appellez Guressis ou Pleuianders
    Pleuianders Luicteurs
    Delly, Ou Autrement Fol-hardy
    Les Yvrongnes
    Cuisinier Turc
    Vilageois Grecs Appelez Voinuchs
    Medecin Juif
    Giomailer Religieux Turc
    Calender Religieux Turc
    Dervis Religieux Turc
    Torlaquis Religieux Turc
    Religieux Turc
    Emir, Parent De Mahomet
    Pelerins Mores Revenans De La Mecque
    Des Sacchaz Porteurs D'eau Pelerins De La Mecque
    Gentil-homme Persien
    Gentil-homme Grec
    Marchand Grec
    Marchand Juif
    Marchand Armenien
    Marchand De Raguse
    Fante De Raguse, Ou Porteurs De Lettres
    Marchand Arabe
    Esclave More
    Grande Dame Turque
    Turque Allant Au Bain
    La Gentille Femme Turque Estant Dans Sa Maison Ou Serail
    Femme Turque De Moyen Estat En Chambre
    Femme Turque Allant Par La Ville
    Femme Turque Menant Ses Enfans
    Fille De Joye Turque
    Femme Turqe, Vestue A La Moresque
    Femme d'Estat Grecque De La Ville De Pera
    Gentille Femme Derotte Franque
    Fille d'Estat Grecque De La Ville De Pera
    Femme d'Estat De La Cite d'Andrinople Ville De Thrace
    Femme Juifue d'Andrinople
    Fille Juifue d'Andrinople
    Villageoise Grecque
    Femme De Macedoine
    Femme De L'Isle De Chio
    Fille De L'Isle De Chio
    Femme De Caramanie
    Femme Vestue A La Surienne
    Femme Persienne
    Femme Moresque De Tripoli En Barbarie
    Femme Mavre d'Alger En Barbarie Allant Par La Ville
    Fille Moresque, Esclave En Alger Ville De Barbarie
    Femme De l'Isle De Malthe


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    HISTOIRE DES TURCS, TOME SECOND, by Blaise de Vigenere. Paris, 1663.:
    The large images:
    Aga, Captain General of the Janissaries
    Kadi al askar, The Executor of the Laws in Turkey
    Boluk Bashi, Captain of One Hundred Janissaries
    Solak, Ordinary Archer of the Guard of the Great Lord
    Yeniceri (Janissary) Soldier of the Foot Guard
    Yeniceri (Janissary) Going To War
    Azab
    The Azamoglans or Tribute Children
    Rustic Azmoglans
    Peik or Lackey of the Grand Turk
    Old Dress or Manner of Peiks or Lackeys of the Great Lord
    The Players of the Great Lord called Guressis or Pleuianders
    Pleuianders Players
    Delli, or otherwise Fool-hardy
    Drunken Turks belonging to Azamoglans, Leventis and Azabs
    Turkish Cook
    Greek Villager Called Voinuk
    Jewish Doctor
    Turkish Religious Giomailer
    Turkish Religious Calender
    Turkish Religious Dervish
    Turkish Religious Torlaquis
    Religious Turk
    Emir, Relative of Mohammed
    Moorish pilgrims parade in Mecca
    Water Carrier For The Mecca Pilgrims
    Persian Gentleman
    Greek Gentleman
    Greek Merchant
    Jewish Merchant
    Armenian Merchant
    Merchant Of Ragusa
    Knave From Ragusa, Or Letter Carrier
    Arab Merchant
    Moorish Slave
    Turkish Great Lady
    Turk Going To The Bath
    The Turkish Gentle Woman In Her House Or Palace
    Turkish Minor Noble Woman In A Room
    Turkish Woman Going To The City
    Turkish Woman Leading Infants
    Merry Turkish Girl
    Turkish Woman, Dressed Like A Moor
    Greek Noble Woman Of The City Of Pera
    Gentle Woman in western dress
    Noble Greek Girl Of The City Of Pera
    Noble Woman Of The City Of Adrianople Town Of Thrace
    Jewish Woman From Adrianople
    Jewish Girl From Adrianople
    Greek Villager
    Macedonian Woman
    Woman From The Island Of Chios
    Girl From The Island Of Chios
    Woman Of Carmania
    Woman Dressed Like A Syrian
    Persian Woman
    Moorish Woman From Tripoli in Barbary
    Mavre Women Of Algiers In Barbary Going To The City
    Moorish Girl, Slave In Algiers, Town Of Barbary
    Woman From The Island Of Malta

    A version including the plate descriptions in French:
    The large images:
    Aga Capitaine General Des Janissaires
    Cadilescher
    Boluch Bassi Capitaine De Cent Janissaires
    Solachi Archers Ordinaires De La Garde Du Grand Seigneur
    Janissaire Ou Jennitzarler Soldat A Pied De La Garde
    Janissaire Allant A La Guerre
    Azape
    Des Azamoglans Ou Enfans De Tribut
    Des Azmoglans Rustiques
    Des Peichs Ou Laquais Du Grand Turc
    Habit Ou Maniere Ancienne Des Paichs Ou Laquais Du Grand Seigneur
    Des Luicteurs Du Grand Seigneur Appellez Guressis ou Pleuianders
    Pleuianders Luicteurs
    Delly, Ou Autrement Fol-hardy
    Les Yvrongnes
    Cuisinier Turc
    Vilageois Grecs Appelez Voinuchs
    Medecin Juif
    Giomailer Religieux Turc
    Calender Religieux Turc
    Dervis Religieux Turc
    Torlaquis Religieux Turc
    Religieux Turc
    Emir, Parent De Mahomet
    Pelerins Mores Revenans De La Mecque
    Des Sacchaz Porteurs D'eau Pelerins De La Mecque
    Gentil-homme Persien
    Gentil-homme Grec
    Marchand Grec
    Marchand Juif
    Marchand Armenien
    Marchand De Raguse
    Fante De Raguse, Ou Porteurs De Lettres
    Marchand Arabe
    Esclave More
    Grande Dame Turque
    Turque Allant Au Bain
    La Gentille Femme Turque Estant Dans Sa Maison Ou Serail
    Femme Turque De Moyen Estat En Chambre
    Femme Turque Allant Par La Ville
    Femme Turque Menant Ses Enfans
    Fille De Joye Turque
    Femme Turqe, Vestue A La Moresque
    Femme d'Estat Grecque De La Ville De Pera
    Gentille Femme Derotte Franque
    Fille d'Estat Grecque De La Ville De Pera
    Femme d'Estat De La Cite d'Andrinople Ville De Thrace
    Femme Juifue d'Andrinople
    Fille Juifue d'Andrinople
    Villageoise Grecque
    Femme De Macedoine
    Femme De L'Isle De Chio
    Fille De L'Isle De Chio
    Femme De Caramanie
    Femme Vestue A La Surienne
    Femme Persienne
    Femme Moresque De Tripoli En Barbarie
    Femme Mavre d'Alger En Barbarie Allant Par La Ville
    Fille Moresque, Esclave En Alger Ville De Barbarie
    Femme De l'Isle De Malthe



    A Meeting With A Madcap Text by I. Fletcher, Figure of Deli by H. Poulten based on Nicolay, or Miiror site.

    druzhina345
    Ottomans

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    Coloured Illustrations of Ottomans by Jean Brindesi, 1855
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    Padishah, Sultan Mahmud II. Kehaya Bey, Minister of the Interior. Sadr'Azam, Grand Vizier.
    Janissary Aga, Reis-Efendi, Foreign Minister. The Executor of the Laws. Cavus basi sahri.
    Kazasker, Grand Judge. Captan Pasha, Grand Admiral. Tschohadar, Officer of the Admiralty.
    Pirpiri Esnaf, Janissary (worker). Ousta, Captain. Galiodji, Seaman. Touloumbadji, Fireman.
    Yol Hasseki, Inspector of Roads. Tchohadar, Sergeant of the Guard Corps Commander. Boluk-Agasi, Commander of a Guard Corps.
    Ketzeli, Janissary in official costume. Nizam-i Djedid bimbashi, Battalion Chief of the first Reform of Sultan Mahmoud. Topdji Bachi, Chief of Artillery. Bimbashi, Battalion Chief of the Reform.
    Souvari Topdji Neferi, Gunner, Horse Artillery. Piade Topdji Yuzbachi, Captain of Foot Artillery. Souvari Topdji Neferi, Gunner, Foot Artillery.
    Khoumbaradji, Mortar Gunners.
    Eghri Calpaklissi, Soldier of the Reform. Choubara Néféri, Soldier (1st Reform). Nizami Djedid Néféri, Soldier (Reform of Sultan Selim). Choubara Néféri, Soldier (1st Reform of Sultan Mahmoud)
    The distribution of soup (to the Guard Corps).<br>Bash-Karakoulouktchou, Chief Cook's Assistant (Officer). Karakoulouktchou, Cook's Assistants. Sakassi Orta, Water Carrier (Officer).
    Koulouk Néféri, Janissary of the Guard Corps. Ketzeli, Pay Officer of the 25th Battalion. Oda Bashi, Room Leader. Koulouk Bariaktari, Sub-Officer of the Guard Corps.
    Bash Cavus, Officer of Order. Kol Kiayassi, Lieutenant General. Capidji Baschi, Chamberlain. Tschaousch Orta, Regimental Fourrier.
    Cara Coulouktjou, Chasseur of the 33rd Battalion. Ousta, Senior Officer (ceremonial dress). Cara Coulouktjou, Chasseur of the 33rd Battalion.
    Djébéhané Cara-Coulouktchi, Weapons Room Guard. Djébéhané Tchorbadjissi, Colonel of the Armorers. Bostandji, Guard of the Imperial Palace of Adrianople. Chatir, runner.
    Salma Néféri, Soldiers of Police (Patrol). Nobetchi, ADC to the Lieutenant General. Hasseki Aga, Messenger of the Palace (Officer).
    Bektashi Emin Baba Seirdin-Ustasi (Chief of the Buffoons). Dervish. Soitari, Buffoon of the Volunteers. Deli Bashi, Chief of irregular cavalry.
    Tschohadar, Footman of the Grand Vizier. Divan Tschaousch, Usher of the Divan. Iassaktji, Guard of the Ambassadors.
    Musdedji Bashi (new holder). Saraz Bashi (saddler of the 64th Battalion). Serden-Ghesti-Agassi, Chief of Volunteers. Sali-Ousta, Captain of the 1st Battalion. Djebedjilerin Kiayassi, General of Artillery.
    Kislar Aga, Chief of the Black Eunuchs. Djudjé, Dwarf. Ak Aga, Chief of the White Eunuchs.
    Enderoun Houmayoun Itch-Aghalar, Pages in the Palace. Djudjé, Palace Dwarf. Enderoun Houmayoun Dilcisi, Palace Mute (Page).
    Bachi-Tchohadar, 1st valet of the Sultan. Silahtar-Aga, Sword Bearer. Solak, Peik, Guards of Honour.
    Ich-Oghlan Chaush, Master of Ceremonies (& lower order). Zuluflu Baltadji, White Eunuch in the Service of the Harem. Eski Sarai Baltadji, Valets of former Sultans. Muezzin, Crier of Prayers.


    druzhina345
    19th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers

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    Very intersting units my favourite one is kapiqula.

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    Nizam, Amazing mod, if you are planning to add further units please make them as fashionable and good-looking as possible, especially Janissaries and their officers


    Druzhina - Thank you very much for those links

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    Default Re: Unit ideas of The Ottoman Empire for Elite Units of the East (included 3D Model)

    Maybe an Armenian Unit?

    The Ottoman Army at its earlier stage enjoyed the service of Armenian tribal infantry archers who relied on an old-fashioned composite bow. They wore muted colors or black as a result of the Ottoman laws which reserved brighter costume for the Turkish elite.
    Imperial chief gunpowder maker Ohannes bey Dadian (1798-1869) :


    Colonel of the Ottoman army Boghos bey Dadian (1862-1934) :
    [ Under Patronage of Jom ]
    [ "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." Matthew 6:21 ]

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    i forgot to mention, despite flashing us an extensive amount of great links Druzhina, these are from a completely wrong Timeline. yours are majorly Renaissance Depictions, this mod is 1700's-early 1800's
    heres a pack of helpful images spanning that particular time era, between a great uniform reform













    Egyptian infantry in summer uniform





    right now I Would complain about how crappy-looking some of the units you made look like, those Cairo Janissaries don't look organized or special, they could use less-diversity and more fashionable looking uniforms/hats, the Sipahis also look very crude,a bunch of men in coats and clothes and big tower hats and those Azeps could be more better looking, add large read plumed on those hats, more colorful tunics and shields, arming them with yataghans would also be cool but the helbars are ok, also those nizam-I-Cedits look pretty lousy and fat in those massive tunics, they don't even look like war uniforms

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