The Europa Barbarorum Wonders Project

[Edorix]

Since you haven't made Anglesey a province but it was one of the most important sacred places in Britain, might I suggest a wonder either for the island as a whole - Inis Mona - or some monument on the island, such as Bryn Celli Ddu (*"Briga Ceti Dubi" or something similar in Old Brythonic, if you assume the Welsh name means the high-place in the dark wood).

Anglesey was a very fertile land, so perhaps it should give population growth bonuses. It should also increase the loyalty of all Celtic factions to its owner, as historically when Suetonius Paulinus and Julius Agricola attacked it their intention was to break the back of British resistance by striking at their religious heart.

Bryn Celli Ddu (*Briga Cete Dube):



"Bedd Branwen", the alleged burial place of the Welsh heroine/ Celtic love-goddess Branwen or *Bronawinda could also be a possibility. It was originally a circle of stones at the mouth of the river Alaw (to do with Alaunos?) but today only one stone remains (and it's not very impressive :/) and dates to the mid-second millennium BC. Excavations carried out there discovered cremated remains underground, and that's how it was dated. The grave of the goddess of love is not a bad idea for a wonder if you ask me...

[Retógenes]

I have a suggestion for a monument of the Iberian Peninsula, The Bulls of Guisando, buildt by the Iberians and located near the town called "El Tiemblo", in the center of the Peninsula. Here's a photo of the sculptures.



Here's other bull built in the city of Salamanca, near the river called "Tormes". Later, the romans built a bridge near the monument, and they believed that the bull protect the city.


I hope I have been helpful

[Brapbrapbap]

The Lusitanian province needs a wonder that says "Viriathus was born here +6 troop experience; 50% increase in order due to manliness."

[bobbin]

Don't spam the thread please.

[Carenthir]

I would suggest Kaali Meteorite Crater Field to the Baltic area. It is located on the isalnd of Saaremaa in Estonia. It is about 7500 years old and the latest meteorite impact to occur in a populated area. This event immensly influenced the mythology and religion of the people in the surrounding areas. (Among many others it is theorised that the Phaeton Myth from ancient Greece was based on the event.) Kaali was considered a sacred lake and a place where the sun went to rest. Archaeologist have discovered that during some time in the Late Bronze Age 470 meters long stone wall was built around it and there are evidences of ritual sacrifices and cult activities.

[Steforian]

I saw mention of the Kingdom Oak at Uppsala, that would be nice to include, its just a simple huge oak:

"Forty men with hands outstretched would not span the trunk,..." - 'One King's Way' Harry Harrison

[usmcsultan]

Have you heard about pyramids that they recently found in Bosnia?

http://www.bosnianpyramid.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzDY0EBvCbU


Also, in Bosnia they have these "Stećak" (large stone figures with writings and pictures on them). Not sure if you can use this one, because of the time period they were built.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stecak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:St...j_Sarajevo.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5Pzb2bkciE

[bobbin]

Have you heard about pyramids that they recently found in Bosnia?

http://www.bosnianpyramid.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzDY0EBvCbU

They are just hills which some crazy nationalistic guy seems intent on telling the world are pyramids and the local authorities are happy to go along with it for the extra tourism it brings in.

Also, in Bosnia they have these "Stećak" (large stone figures with writings and pictures on them). Not sure if you can use this one, because of the time period they were built.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stecak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:St...j_Sarajevo.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5Pzb2bkciE

Being from the middle ages they are well outside of our time frame I'm afraid.

[Fabricus]

I read an article about those pyramids, yeah that is what the article said as well, the guy seems a little biased to say the least. The general consensus by archeologists seems that is a natural occurance, rather like a mountian.

I have not heard about the stones though, those could be cool!

[bobbin]

I read an article about those pyramids, yeah that is what the article said as well, the guy seems a little biased to say the least.

The guy believes the "pyramids" were built by Atlanteans who originated from the Pleiades, thats a star cluster by the way, "a little biased" doesn't even come close.

[Aquila SPQR]

All right, call me a nationalist, but I thought about places in modern Poland which could fit into Europa Barbarorum Wonders Project. Unfortunately (unlike Italians, French, Greeks etc.) people who lived in our lands at that time were... umm... a bit less "developed" ( ) and surely left much less "wonder-like" places.

But there's one thing that could match your criteria.

Slęża Mountain ( [ˈɕlɛ̃ʐa] - as wiki says - for those who think Polish language is unintelligible... ok, well, for everyone )

Unfortunately I am not a historian and have very limited knowledge about this place. Also add to this my inability to write "good" things in English.





It's located in the south-western part of the country ( 50°51'54″N 16°42'31″E ) and was a place of sun worship - probably from the beginning of the bronze age in that area. Lands where this mountain is located were "colonized" by the celtic Boii tribe ( the end of the fourth century BCE ) and it's the period when a sanctuary on that mountain flourished. It was protected by a stone wall (width - 12m.). Few stone scupltures that were probably made by celts (actually no one knows who created them) remain:

A "Monk":



"Virgin with the fish":





and "bears":





Link to photo

with mysterious crosses on their backs (some argue that they were some sort of a "solar signs" - those sings were also found in other places on the Slęża mountain.
This mountain was a very important place for people who lived there for a long time (celts, then slavs) - actually even christianization at first did not succeed to wipe the heathen cult.

I can make a better research if you want, but it will take some time (find books, read them and then... translate.)

[bobbin]

Mount Sleza is actually already part of our wonders list and can be found in the original EB. Those pictures might come in hand though so thanks anyway!

[Aquila SPQR]

Oh, sorry then! I saw a list of EB wonders but had no idea Slęża was present there - probably because I have never played EB for too long (CTDs... that's why I anticipate EB II so much ) and have no idea how that mountain was called back then (I know only it's modern name)

[bobbin]

Its called the Limios Alsos in the game, you can find it near the Gawjam Silengoz settlement.

[Orko]

How about the temple of Jerusalem?

[Fabricus]

How about the temple of Jerusalem?

That should be a must I imagine.

[Mediolanicus]

How about the temple of Jerusalem?

How about you read the first post?

[Jodius]

Can I make a suggestion for Brú na Bóinne in Co. Meath, Ireland?

It's a collection of passage tombs, henges, standing stones and other stone age relics predating the Pyramids and Stonehenge. The most famous feature is the grave at Newgrange, were on the Winter Solstice every year a beam of light shines down the passage way through an opening above the door and lights up the inner tomb. Theres also extensive complexes at Knowth and Dowth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Br%C3%BA_na_B%C3%B3inne
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newgrange
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowth

[nhytgbvfeco2]

how about the 2nd temple in jerusalim?
t'was around between 516 BCE and 70 CE...fits the time frame...

[Horatius Flaccus]

It's already in, read the first post.