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    In holland, or the netherlands, they've got these things called 'Hunebedden' Big blocks of stones pilled on top of each other. there abaout 5000 years old an Have been seen in roman and ancient greek times. Ther probably graves. There not huge but quite big.
    lol been @ an hunebedden last wensday. big tons of rock plast on eachother. they say that are 4fathers made this possible because of the rising waters that made the rock lighter.

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    I'd like to propose the northwest hispanian "CASTRO CULTURE" ("Hillfort Culture"). This archeological culture defines the Iron age of the nowdays spanish autonomic regions of Galicia, Cantabria, Asturias and parts of Castilla/Leon, as well as all northern Portugal. Is characterized by it's typical fortified settlements, round houses, ritual-bath buildings and predominance of granite. Is rich in jewelry, torcs, bronze cauldrons, granite sculpture (the famous warrior statues, for instance), and iron weapons and tools. Inscriptions found in granitic stones shows examples of gallaecian/lusitanian language, like this one:

    «OILAM TREBOPALA

    INDI PORCOM LAEBO
    COMMAIAM ICCONA LOIM
    INNA OILAM VSSEAM
    TREBARVNE INDI TAVROM IFADEM»
    (translation: [sacrifice] a sheep to Trebopala, and a pig to Laebo, offer to Shining Iccona, a lamb to Trebaruna, and a bull to Rave Tre[baruna]»

    I think that it could be included as a reference in a settlement card, in the settlement that corresponds to EB1 Tyde (by the way, where did you get that name?!)

    Here are some good references in english:
    http://www4.uwm.edu/celtic/ekeltoi/v...-cobas_6_1.pdf
    http://www4.uwm.edu/celtic/ekeltoi/v...ruibal_6_3.pdf
    http://www4.uwm.edu/celtic/ekeltoi/v...lujan_6_16.pdf
    http://www4.uwm.edu/celtic/ekeltoi/v.../ayan_6_19.pdf

    And here are some pics
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    Hey People what about the temple in Jerusalem???
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    Quote Originally Posted by MemphisRex View Post
    Hey People what about the temple in Jerusalem???
    It's already in

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    Here goes a proposal for Iberia:

    Mons Cavnvs (Moncayo)
    Located on the middle valley of the river Iberus (Ebro) it is found the Mons Caunus, a 2314 metres isolated mountain which was a sacred and magic place for the Celtiberian tribes living on its side. His snow lasts the whole year, and it is believed that on his hillside there was a sacred forest, similar to that of the Gaulish carnutes, where the Celtiberic druids gathered. The roman poet Marcvs Valerivs Martialis dedicated some verses to the mountain, calling it senemque Caivm nivibvs (the old grayed by snows).

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    I have one, I'm suprised you guys hadn't thought of it to be honest.

    Daphne, outside of Antioch. Built by Seleucus I.

    It was sort of a suburb, inhabited by wealthy Seleucids.... as well as a series of parks, gardens, and an extensive temple complex dedicated to Apollo.

    It overshadowed Antioch itself at times, and was famous for its majesty as well as its decadence.

    A lot of what we know about the Seleucid army is from accounts of its victory parades at Daphne.

    The Turkish town of Harbiye exists where Daphne once was, from what I could find online there are no signifigant ruins but many of the gardens still exist today.

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    please delete
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    http://macedonia-evidence.org
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    «Εναντίον στο ρεύμα του κοσμοπολιτισμού πηγαίνει το ρεύμα του Ελληνισμού και κάθε εθνισμού. Ο πολιτισμός της Ευρώπης ο τωρινός πηγαίνει κατά τον κοσμοπολιτισμό. Οι περισσότεροι αφίνονται στο ρεύμα αυτό. Είναι όμως και πολλοί που δεν αφίνονται. Τι κάνουν αυτοί; Κλείνονται στο καυκί τους από σιχαμό για τη μετριότητα του ευρωπαϊκού πολιτισμού και του κοσμοπολιτισμού. Όσο μέτριο και αν είναι το σπίτι τους, το καυκί τους, όμως καλύτερο είναι από το κοσμοπολιτισμό και τους εμπνέει περισσότερο. Εκεί βρίσκουν και καλλιεργούν τη δροσερή πηγή κάθε δυναμισμού τους».Ίων Δραγούμης

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    There is a grand total of 1152 buildings possible in M2TW, so there is no need to worry about running out.

    Even so removing probably one of the most important sites in Greece seems like an odd choice to go with.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    There is a grand total of 1152 buildings possible in M2TW, so there is no need to worry about running out.

    Even so removing probably one of the most important sites in Greece seems like an odd choice to go with.
    i thought that it was 125 or something near this number
    http://macedonia-evidence.org
    real proofs of skopjan falsehood .
    «Εναντίον στο ρεύμα του κοσμοπολιτισμού πηγαίνει το ρεύμα του Ελληνισμού και κάθε εθνισμού. Ο πολιτισμός της Ευρώπης ο τωρινός πηγαίνει κατά τον κοσμοπολιτισμό. Οι περισσότεροι αφίνονται στο ρεύμα αυτό. Είναι όμως και πολλοί που δεν αφίνονται. Τι κάνουν αυτοί; Κλείνονται στο καυκί τους από σιχαμό για τη μετριότητα του ευρωπαϊκού πολιτισμού και του κοσμοπολιτισμού. Όσο μέτριο και αν είναι το σπίτι τους, το καυκί τους, όμως καλύτερο είναι από το κοσμοπολιτισμό και τους εμπνέει περισσότερο. Εκεί βρίσκουν και καλλιεργούν τη δροσερή πηγή κάθε δυναμισμού τους».Ίων Δραγούμης

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    Through the use of guild, upgrades etc. it's (apparently) possible to get to 1152 buildings.

    And have you played EB1? If so, you would know that 125 is probably a bit of a low guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatius Flaccus View Post
    Through the use of guild, upgrades etc. it's (apparently) possible to get to 1152 buildings.

    And have you played EB1? If so, you would know that 125 is probably a bit of a low guess.
    i have played eb.i thought that rtw had a limit for 65.
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=28608
    http://macedonia-evidence.org
    real proofs of skopjan falsehood .
    «Εναντίον στο ρεύμα του κοσμοπολιτισμού πηγαίνει το ρεύμα του Ελληνισμού και κάθε εθνισμού. Ο πολιτισμός της Ευρώπης ο τωρινός πηγαίνει κατά τον κοσμοπολιτισμό. Οι περισσότεροι αφίνονται στο ρεύμα αυτό. Είναι όμως και πολλοί που δεν αφίνονται. Τι κάνουν αυτοί; Κλείνονται στο καυκί τους από σιχαμό για τη μετριότητα του ευρωπαϊκού πολιτισμού και του κοσμοπολιτισμού. Όσο μέτριο και αν είναι το σπίτι τους, το καυκί τους, όμως καλύτερο είναι από το κοσμοπολιτισμό και τους εμπνέει περισσότερο. Εκεί βρίσκουν και καλλιεργούν τη δροσερή πηγή κάθε δυναμισμού τους».Ίων Δραγούμης

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    Quote Originally Posted by clone View Post
    i have played eb.i thought that rtw had a limit for 65.
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=28608
    There are 64 building trees, but each tree can hold 9 buildings.

    In M2TW there is a maximum of 128 building trees which can each hold 9 buildings (128 x 9 = 1152).

    Bear in mind that not all of the suggestions in the wonders tread will be individual buildings, a lot will be incorperated into the province buildings descriptions and so won't affect the overall building count.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    There are 64 building trees, but each tree can hold 9 buildings.

    In M2TW there is a maximum of 128 building trees which can each hold 9 buildings (128 x 9 = 1152).

    Bear in mind that not all of the suggestions in the wonders tread will be individual buildings, a lot will be incorperated into the province buildings descriptions and so won't affect the overall building count.
    are you going to use all buildings.i hope you do
    http://macedonia-evidence.org
    real proofs of skopjan falsehood .
    «Εναντίον στο ρεύμα του κοσμοπολιτισμού πηγαίνει το ρεύμα του Ελληνισμού και κάθε εθνισμού. Ο πολιτισμός της Ευρώπης ο τωρινός πηγαίνει κατά τον κοσμοπολιτισμό. Οι περισσότεροι αφίνονται στο ρεύμα αυτό. Είναι όμως και πολλοί που δεν αφίνονται. Τι κάνουν αυτοί; Κλείνονται στο καυκί τους από σιχαμό για τη μετριότητα του ευρωπαϊκού πολιτισμού και του κοσμοπολιτισμού. Όσο μέτριο και αν είναι το σπίτι τους, το καυκί τους, όμως καλύτερο είναι από το κοσμοπολιτισμό και τους εμπνέει περισσότερο. Εκεί βρίσκουν και καλλιεργούν τη δροσερή πηγή κάθε δυναμισμού τους».Ίων Δραγούμης

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    Quote Originally Posted by clone View Post
    wrong
    What's "wrong"?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthippus of Sparta View Post
    What's "wrong"?
    nothing.
    http://macedonia-evidence.org
    real proofs of skopjan falsehood .
    «Εναντίον στο ρεύμα του κοσμοπολιτισμού πηγαίνει το ρεύμα του Ελληνισμού και κάθε εθνισμού. Ο πολιτισμός της Ευρώπης ο τωρινός πηγαίνει κατά τον κοσμοπολιτισμό. Οι περισσότεροι αφίνονται στο ρεύμα αυτό. Είναι όμως και πολλοί που δεν αφίνονται. Τι κάνουν αυτοί; Κλείνονται στο καυκί τους από σιχαμό για τη μετριότητα του ευρωπαϊκού πολιτισμού και του κοσμοπολιτισμού. Όσο μέτριο και αν είναι το σπίτι τους, το καυκί τους, όμως καλύτερο είναι από το κοσμοπολιτισμό και τους εμπνέει περισσότερο. Εκεί βρίσκουν και καλλιεργούν τη δροσερή πηγή κάθε δυναμισμού τους».Ίων Δραγούμης

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    Asklepion in Bergama/Pergamum- existed as a healing center before Rome though there were some Roman temples added and many Roman emperors visited it was due to already being famous. Pergamum might already have enough descriptions but this was an important center of healing arts in the ancient world. Perhaps some public health bonus for the province?

    Law code of Gortys in Crete. Well preserved ancient codex of quite interesting laws. Definitely predates EB era and was definitely well known in this period. Gortys was made capitol of the Roman province instead of Knossos after 67 BC.

    Uplistsikhe caves in Georgia- pagan center of worship and stayed in use until Mongol invasions though was converted to Christian chapels etc when Georgia converted. Originally about 700 caves though only 150 or so remain today.

    Mt Ushia-darena in Azerbeijan. Where Zoraster received his visions.

    Samothrace which is mentioned by various ancient sources even including Herodotus who was supposedly an initiate into the mysteries there. Any of the important Hellenic temple sites would be good but Samothrace is my favorite because of the various mysteries and gods worshipped there.

    Baalbek/Heliopolis should not need much said about it but I can't remember it being in EB 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichon View Post
    Baalbek/Heliopolis should not need much said about it but I can't remember it being in EB 1.
    I believe it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irishguy View Post
    In holland, or the netherlands, they've got these things called 'Hunebedden' Big blocks of stones pilled on top of each other. there abaout 5000 years old an Have been seen in roman and ancient greek times. Ther probably graves. There not huge but quite big.
    You do realize that these stones are the walls and roof of the graves and they where covered by sand so they where sealed rooms, just a hill in those times with a couple of loose rocks laying around in a circle. Not that spectacular
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    The Pharos of Brigantia (UNESCO WORLD HERITAGE)

    Through the millennia many mythical stories of its origin have been told. According to a myth that blends Celtic and Greco-Roman elements, the hero Hercules slew the giant tyrant Geryon after three days and three nights of continuous battle. Hercules then—in a Celtic gesture— buried the head of Geryon with his weapons and ordered that a city be built on the site. The lighthouse atop a skull and crossbones representing the buried head of Hercules’ slain enemy appears in the coat-of-arms of the city of Corunna.

    Another legend embodied in the 11th-century compilation Lebor Gabala Erren— the "Book of Invasions"— King Breogán, the founding father of the Galician Celtic nation, constructed here a massive tower of such a grand height that his sons could see a distant green shore from its top. The glimpse of that distant green land lured them to sail north to Ireland. A colossal statue of Breogán has been erected near the Tower.

    The tower is thought to had been originally a simpler structure in pre-roman times, part of a chain of fire signals to guide merchant ships through the "Costa da Morte" (Coast of the Death), as this was a necessary route to reach the European Atlantic Coast from the Mediterranean, thus making Gallaecia a main trade center of the Atlantic since the bronze age, but also the most dangerous step!





    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Hercules

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