Portugal - Discussion Thread

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Portugal - Discussion Thread

[KLAssurbanipal]

In EW2 will there are units from Schoumberg-Lippe reforms

[Geronimo2006]

Is Portugal playable in GC?

[tryadelion]

not sure. but yes in fast battles

[Salvo]

Not yet, but in cutom battles yes.
Portugal have few new units, I will update the thread when 0.7 version will be realesed

[tryadelion]

where are the towels???

[Geronimo2006]

Can you make Portugal start as an Absolute Monarchy? Pedro II (was able to close down the Cortes (parliament) in 1697 because of the discovery of silver in Brazil. The reality is that Britain and Poland were the only Constitutional Monarchy in Europe in 1700.

[Salvo]

So we have to change Portugal, Denmark...Is there any other faction?

[Geronimo2006]

So we have to change Portugal, Denmark...Is there any other faction?

I don't think so. Though I would like to be able to play as them.

Edit of above: Britain and Poland were the only constitutional-monarchies in Europe in 1700.

[Geronimo2006]

Descriptions of Portuguese uniforms in the War of the Spanish Succession (1700-1714) are here.

Some Portuguese uniforms from the Seven Years War I found (300 Anos de Uniformes Militares do Exército de Portugal 1660-1960) These regiments had both musketeer and grenadier variants (see descriptions of headwear below):

Infantry:
Chaves-Beira Infantry:

The regiment was raised in 1643 as the Terço de Chaves. On April 20 1762, the regiment was divided into two distinct units: the regiment of João António de Sá Pereira and the regiment of Francisco José de Morais Pimentel.

Chaves (1st) Battalion
(Privates) (1759)

Musketeers: black tricorne laced white with a red/white cockade

Grenadiers: black bearskins with a red flame probably piped with a thin white lace.

Uniform of Chaves (2nd) Battalion:
(privates) (1759)

Musketeer:
black tricorne laced white with a red/white cockade.

Grenadier: black bearskins with a red flame probably piped with a thin white lace.

Uniform of Beira Battalion:
(privates) (1759)

Musketeer: black tricorne laced white with a red/white cockade
Grenadier:black bearskins with a red flame probably piped with a thin white lace.

Officers of above regiments:

Officers We have found no information on the uniform of the officers of this battalion. However, in other regiments there are documented evidence that the officers wore a uniform very similar to the one worn by privates with the following distinctions:

• a gold laced tricorne
• a thin silver lace at the collar
• red waiscoat laced silver with white buttons and very narrow white buttonholes
• officer stick
• sword

Porto infantry/Terço da Câmara do Porto:

The regiment was raised on March 20 1659 as the Terço da Câmara do Porto.
In September 1762, the regiment was subdivided into two distinct units: the regiment of Don António de Lencastre and the regiment of Jorge Francisco Machado de Mendonça.
After the war with Spain, on May 10 1763, the first of the two regiments of 1762 took back its original name of “Porto” while the second was supposed to be transformed into a regiment of artillery. However, on September 12 1763, the project was abandoned and this second regiment became known as the “2nd Regiment of Porto”.

(Privates) (1759)

Musketeer:Black tricorne laced white with a red/white cockade.
Grenadier:black bearskins with a red flame probably piped with a thin yellow lace.

1st auxiliary unit (associated with the Porto infantry) (1759):

Musketeer:black tricorne laced white with a red/white cockade.
Grenadier:n/a

2nd auxiliary unit (associated with Porto infantry) (1759):


See also: 2nd regiment of Porto, 1793-4

Musketeer:black tricorne laced white with a red/white cockade.
Grenadier:n/a

Bragança Infantry:

The regiment already existed in 1664 when it was known as the Terço de Bragança.
On April 20 1762, the regiment was divided into two distinct units.
After the war with Spain, on May 10 1763, one of these units took back its original name of “Bragança”.

Privates (1762):

Musketeer: Black tricorne laced white with a red/white cockade.
Grenadier: black bearskins with a red flame probably piped with a thin white lace.

Officers The officers wore a uniform very similar to the one worn by privates with the following distinctions:

• a gold laced tricorne
• a thin silver lace at the collar
• red waiscoat laced silver with white buttons and very narrow white buttonholes
• officer stick
• sword

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Musicians

The uniforms of the drummers were similar to those of the privates with the following differences:

• white laced collar
• white laced lapels
• white laces on the seams, around the pockets and along the edges of the coat
• white laces disposed in a zigzag pattern on the sleeves, on the lapels and under the pockets of the coat
• white laced dark blue waistcoat with laces disposed in a zigzag pattern along the edges.

Descriptions of uniforms in 1800 and later are here.

[Salvo]

Next new info?
Great, thanks friend

[Geronimo2006]

Thank you sir.

[Salvo]

I have good news for Portugal, PrisonNeo made new model for Portugal early line infantry, we will also use it for Netherlands and some other factions

[Geronimo2006]

Portuguese uniforms underwent further change in 1763 after the Seven Years War had ended. Explained here.

[Gen.jamesWolfe]

Descriptions of Portuguese uniforms in the War of the Spanish Succession (1700-1714) are here.

Some Portuguese uniforms from the Seven Years War I found (300 Anos de Uniformes Militares do Exército de Portugal 1660-1960) These regiments had both musketeer and grenadier variants (see descriptions of headwear below):

Infantry:
Chaves-Beira Infantry:


Chaves (1st) Battalion
(Privates) (1759)





Uniform of Chaves (2nd) Battalion:
(privates) (1759)




Uniform of Beira Battalion:
(privates) (1759)





Officers of above regiments:Porto infantry/Terço da Câmara do Porto:(Privates) (1759)


1st auxiliary unit (associated with the Porto infantry) (1759):


2nd auxiliary unit (associated with Porto infantry) (1759):


See also: 2nd regiment of Porto, 1793-4Bragança Infantry:
Privates (1762):


Descriptions of uniforms in 1800 and later are here.

now I'm blushing red with all the flattery

[Geronimo2006]

Some Siege of Madrid (1706) Portuguese uniforms (not by regiment). Based on this source, I think the first pic probably corresponds to the Corte Real regiment, with the fourth (yellow) one perhaps the Serpa Regiment..:

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Next is the only other source I can find online for the late 18th century Portuguese regimental-uniforms (when they were blue):

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As such, could you make the Portuguese naval-infantry (in sea battles) green as in the "Tercio De Armada" uniforms above, and introduce some of these skins as units? Thank you.

[carricanta]

I found this picture with this title

Exército Portugues na Amazonia

but i have no idea about the units

[Geronimo2006]

I found this picture with this title

Exército Portugues na Amazonia

but i have no idea about the units

I suspect the third figure is the general.

[Ludicus]

Colonial Uniforms.




18th century colonial Brazil
Álbum de aquarelas sobre uniformes militares do período colonial brasileiro, provavelmente do século XVIII, de várias regiões do país.




Aquarela, século XVIII, Brasil colonial. Uniforme de oficial de milícia a cavalo. Os proprietários de cavalos eram, normalmente, recrutados para integrarem as companhias de milícia de cavalaria devido à escassez daqueles animais


século XVIII, de várias regiões do Brasil

More:

[Geronimo2006]

Thank you Ludicus, but I already have all those images. Is the last one just the General's uniform, or just line-cavalry/dragoons?