In the spirit of the WWI thread, same idea here.
In the spirit of the WWI thread, same idea here.
Well for me it is easy. The Commies were the bad guys.
are you crazy we weren't the one that kill,rape villagers. usa is the bad guy because of usa stupid president kenedy
The pu tangs...and the commies.
the indigenous montagnards, fighting against persecution from the vietnamese
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There were no good guys, the concept of a good side in itself is ridiculous.
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which is why the montagnards are the "good guys" as they are the only ones who had a legitimate reason for fighting
Névé'novôhe'étanóme mâsêhánééstóva, onésetó'ha'éeta netáhoestovevoo'o, onésêhestóxévétáno mâsêhánééstóva!
The Viet-minh
Hammer & Sickle - Karacharovo
And I drank it strait down.
Neither, as with most wars. We should never have gone in there in the first place.
Though as much as it pains me to say it, the North Vietnamese & Vietcong came much closer than the authoritarian, corrupt, unstable and utterly incompetent South Vietnamese regime(s).
Only innocent civilians ...
nobody was the "good guys" in the Vietnam War since it simply wasn't as clear cut as that.
Last edited by Babur; November 18, 2009 at 07:48 AM.
I have to agree with uzi716.
It was a war the US should not have fought - we should have put the screws to France after WW2 they got a UN SC seat and a lot big 5 credit they did not deserve they should never have been allowed to keep their colonial empire. So I say not bad guys but certainly fantastically foolish guys on the US side - if we had forced a French withdrawal who knows maybe Ho Chi Mihn might have been one of our biggest cold war allies.
IN PATROCINIVM SVB Dromikaites
'One day when I fly with my hands - up down the sky, like a bird'
But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.
Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.
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Seriously though, I don't realy believe in "good guys" in a war, so none for me.
North Vietnam tore down the agreement and invaded South Vietnam, they sound like the bad guys to me.
As for the "Corrupt Uber-evil South Vietnamese" government, lets keep in mind that both South Korea and Taiwan were able to transition to a Democratic regime a few decades down the road under US protection, something that never happened in any Commie country. China is still the same dictatorship, just like North Korea, while those that were under pro-american regimes are now democracies. So this is not even something to argue with, cause at least in Asia Democratic under USA protection is proven possibility.
Last edited by Menelik_I; February 28, 2013 at 04:15 PM.
« Le courage est toujours quelque chose de saint, un jugement divin entre deux idées. Défendre notre cause de plus en plus vigoureusement est conforme à la nature humaine. Notre suprême raison d’être est donc de lutter ; on ne possède vraiment que ce qu’on acquiert en combattant. »Ernst Jünger
La Guerre notre Mère (Der Kampf als inneres Erlebnis), 1922, trad. Jean Dahel, éditions Albin Michel, 1934
Its not exactly that black and white.
Yes, but there is no evidence to support South Vietnam becoming a democracy. In fact South Vietnam is really to blame for everything considering they refused to hold elections in accordance with the Geneva Accords in 1956. they cited fair elections could not be held because of the North, and thus then decided to have their own elections (a fraud election)
Ho Chi Minh was a hero to the Vietnamese people like Washington was to the Americans. The better thing would have been to support Ho Chi Mihn instead of the very corrupt and unpopular South Vietnamese.