Mines!

**SovietSoldier** · November 03, 2009, 05:37 PM

Wouldn't it be cool if in Sieges, we can make troops dig in underground, and set Mines below a Fortress? The Ottomans did that in Vienna. Yes, not many Mines were used in Napoleonic Wars, but wouldn't it be amazing to use Mines? Of course, they would cost 1 turn to deploy Mines under a fort, but it would be spectacular if we could use Mines.

Do you think Mines should be used?

**Godless Pickle** · November 03, 2009, 07:26 PM

YES! And trenches and siege fortifications too. But that might all be a little complex...

**InF3sTeD** · November 03, 2009, 09:06 PM

They had sappers in Rome Total War. They would dig up to a wall and plant explosives. It was a pretty cool way to take down a wall without having to use artillary.

**General_Meevious** · November 03, 2009, 09:35 PM

Haha, you know how if you have men manning the cannons at the front of your fort, the enemy infantry will come right up to the walls, then march around to the back at a mine-ish sort of distance from your fortifications? Mines would be a guaranteed win against infantry armies. If the first explosion doesn't rout or destroy them, somewhere along the line they would give up or perish. "The end of ninja ropes".

**Humble Warrior** · November 04, 2009, 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by InF3sTeD

They had sappers in Rome Total War. They would dig up to a wall and plant explosives. It was a pretty cool way to take down a wall without having to use artillary.

Actually, it wasn`t explosives as there was no such things. What happens is that they dig underneath then gather burning stuff like wood and basically burn right under the walls until the walls weakened and collapsed. Also, in reality it would take a few weeks to do, although this is represented in that you have to wait t least a turn before sapping works..

**gilmeiri1** · November 04, 2009, 10:19 AM

I'm dont think that's CA do that but it's very very good idea
I wish it will be

**Lockhard** · November 04, 2009, 11:56 AM

There's a problem. Every time you mention mines, it is almost impossible to separate it from countermines. That's like cavalry and stakes. Or artillery and cavalry. If ETW got option for besieged army to prepare as well as besiegers(i.e. trenches etc.) mines scould be implemented easily. but now it may be too disbalanced in terms of abilityto destroy enemy fortifications.

**Baker2** · November 05, 2009, 12:53 AM

Mines definitely need to be made available, instead of a Campaign-only unit's drop-off weapon

**RO Citizen** · November 05, 2009, 01:06 AM

Yeah. Fougasse for forts. Cool

**gilmeiri1** · November 05, 2009, 05:42 AM

I have another idea

Make Mine Unit[they have also Musket guns] that's dig and put some mines underground fast
like the wood spikes but you cant see that

(you can guess if you see Mine Unit near that)

**RO Citizen** · November 05, 2009, 07:51 AM

Wasn't that the job of Sappers?

**gilmeiri1** · November 05, 2009, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by RO Citizen

Wasn't that the job of Sappers?

Sappers = mine unit
it's the same

**Der Löwe** · November 05, 2009, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by gilmeiri1

Sappers = mine unit
it's the same

Well, to sapp, what sappes did, was to dig a trench towards the fortess, or in reality towards just outside of the fortress. Usualy it was not underground but a waisthigh treanch whit gabions, baskes whit eart, on top. These sapps when close enough was the starting line for parallells, a trench running paralell to the fortress line. But I guess you would use sappers if you where to dig under the walls of a fortress.