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    The famous question has been asked. Do you think it is better to be loved or feared? Why?

    In my opinion, I think it is much better to be loved, for a worker works harder out of respect and love of his master, rather than fear of the whip. He is also more loyal.

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    Loved. But often, you can get more done when you are feared. Usually not good stuff, though.


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    Loved. If you are loved, people will follow you to the ends of the earth. If you are feared, they will turn on you the first chance they get. But it is easier to be feared then loved.
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    "To what aim?" is the practical question.
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    Depends really.

    As a commoner; loved, as a leader; both, as an overlord; feared.
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    Respected, fear creates anger and Love creates jealousy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaristh View Post
    The famous question has been asked. Do you think it is better to be loved or feared? Why?
    Loved. Fear is fleeting. There are a thousand definitions for love in the world and very few for fear. Love is personal, it's intimate and it grows. Fear is external and fear fades quickly. You can do a lot of things in this world but forcing yourself not to love is the hardest of all. Fear can be conquered in moments.

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    To be loved is a wonderful thing for there is a greater loyalty that can be there from it along with peace. Where as for fear can only lead to unrest for they do thing because they must. Yet for with fear it possibly to be over come and then you lose your power over them.

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    Loved. You can accomplish many good things through love. Look at Gandhi for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius Gothicus View Post
    Respected, fear creates anger and Love creates jealousy.
    Agree; respect is what a good leader should expect from their followers. However, respect alone would not make you closer to your followers, which cause isolation.
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    It depends on one's definition of love, but Gothicus is certainly correct. If respected was an option, I would choose it unhestitatingly. But as it is not, I choose feared. Be loved by all, and the love of those you do not wish to be loved by will be overwhelming. Be feared by all, and the hatred from those you desire love from will also be overwhelming.

    But alas the one's yoiu love will be killed in jealousy, whereas the hatred of the masses can be ignored in favor of more materialistic things such games and the like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pnutmaster View Post
    "To what aim?" is the practical question.
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    Depends on the situation obviously. If your talking about a personal relationship then loved of course.

    If you mean in a leadership role then feared always. If they fear you they will respect you. Fear also doesn't have to mean hatred, you can like and fear your boss or leader.

    If a leader or boss is loved, there is no respect because most people will take for granted that persons good nature. People can feel more free to take liberties that they wouldn't from someone that was feared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Red View Post
    ..If a leader or boss is loved, there is no respect because most people will take for granted that persons good nature. People can feel more free to take liberties that they wouldn't from someone that was feared.
    Are you saying you don't respect those that you love? Do you take advantage of them since you love them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morkonan View Post
    Are you saying you don't respect those that you love? Do you take advantage of them since you love them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morkonan View Post
    Are you saying you don't respect those that you love? Do you take advantage of them since you love them?
    Well, not quite. I was speaking more in general terms. Of course I respect those I love, but I would be lying if I said I never took any liberties from a boss who was loved. Not that I would plan to disrespect those I love, but more of a subconscious inclination in my actions.

    Conversly someone whom sets firm ground rules and punishes accordingly is more apt to garner the respect of others out of fear of getting repremanded. Like I stated earlier as well, just because someone is feared doesn't equal an automatic hatred either. My personallity works best with a person that has a strong force of charachter, rather than an inclusive, affable person willing to be swayed to accomodate the masses.

    @Phier- Yes I totaly agree. That why I cringe when a family member wants to hire me for work. Thats part of the love and the taking advantage I was talking about.
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    Default Re: Is It Better To Be Loved Or Feared?

    Machiavelli answered this question brilliantly, and I have to say that I agree with him.

    If I'm just being me, I want to be loved.

    Should I be a leader, then feared. Machiavelli's justification is such that love is better, but love is fleeting, while fear lasts longer, and this is critical for a ruler. Of course, Machiavelli acknowledges that the best would be to have both, but this is extremely difficult to have.

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    This question needs some context. Is it on a personal level? When you are in a leadership position?

    I answered feared. Pain is a great motivator.
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    Feared. Thats the way is!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Red View Post
    ...Conversly someone whom sets firm ground rules and punishes accordingly is more apt to garner the respect of others out of fear of getting repremanded. Like I stated earlier as well, just because someone is feared doesn't equal an automatic hatred either. My personallity works best with a person that has a strong force of charachter, rather than an inclusive, affable person willing to be swayed to accomodate the masses.
    But, isn't it also possible to garner respect in other ways than setting firm ground rules and swift yet just punishment?

    I can't think of any people that I respect that I also fear. I can think of many that I may not "love" but, certainly, I think they are probably worth loving by someone else. Yet, I can't think of anyone I actually know that I would fear. Certainly, those who I would fear, whoever they are, I may not have respect for them as well. But, with anyone that I love I find I do have respect for them. I don't see how the two could be easily separated.

    Just a question in general - Isn't the word "respect" rife with several different meanings? I think some use it as in a "respect for authority" way. In other words, they "respect" the personal power another may have to influence their lives, possibly even by punishment. That's not the kind of respect I think is being questioned here but, I think it's the kind that some are discussing.

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