Improving our models

[Luciano B]

Just some screenshots to show what is under work to improve our models.

Here some helmet models, reproducing original ancient pieces.



here an example of a southern Italic variant of the Attic helmet:



- our model


- our model rendered with the "restored" texture



Another Italo-Attic helmet:



- the structure of our model


- the rendering of the model as it appears ingame




A further variation of the same type of helmet:



model


rendering




An Italic type helmet, now in castel S. Angelo in Rome, from Samnium:



model


rendering

[Smeel]

That's some great work, Luciano! And italo-attics might be my favorite helmet, they are beautiful bbut really made for war.

[k_raso]

Awesome helmets, I also love the Attic and Italo-Attic helmets (but my personal favorite is the Chalcidian). Great work, and the textures look great.

It looks particularly beautiful when the bronze gets that reddish tone, closer to the copper.

[Luciano B]

Thanks gentlemen. I spent a lot of time to find the way to reproduce a realistic metal/bronze effect ...that's by far the most difficult task in such a kind of work.

Don't worry ...some Chalcidian-type helmets are coming soon

[wudang_clown]

Yeah, beautiful models!

[Ballacraine]

Some really good work there.

I always love seeing WIP images.

It is great getting an insight into how things are crafted.

[THE IBERIAN]

really very nice it looks so awesome +rep Luciano for the colour it looks so realistic

[Lord Willy]

uh , exaclty recreated as the Images , Good Work luciano! +rep

[Smeel]

A question for the historians.... How widespread was the hellenistic helmets used by the Italian tribes? Did the Samnites and Apuli etc etc construct their own Chalicdian and attic helmets?

[acsc2000]

Great work Luciano! + rep

Will you completely rework your models or just do some minor things like helmets, shields,...?

[SigniferOne]

Beautiful and bravo, Luciano!

[Luciano B]

A question for the historians.... How widespread was the hellenistic helmets used by the Italian tribes? Did the Samnites and Apuli etc etc construct their own Chalicdian and attic helmets?

About the "material culture" (I mean such things like dress, weaponry, everyday-life objects, pottery etc.) the links between Greece and Italy dates back to the Micenean age.
With the "Orientalizing Period", which started during the later part of the 8th century BCE, the intensity of the cultural interchange between Greece, Italy and Phoenicia led to a period of intensive borrowing. Massive imports of materials and an high degree of mobility among foreign craftsmen caused new craft skills to be introduced. The foundation of the Greek colonies in southern Italy and Sicily, the inclusion of the Etruscans inside the Greek world (the Etruscan cities of Ceare and Spina had their "treasures" at Delphi, for example) led to a mutual integration among the people of this part of the Mediterannean far before the political assimilation of the Greeks into the Roman state.

Modern "academic" definitions for helmets like Corinthian, Attic, Chalcidian etc. are purely conventional. For example almost all of the surviving helmets now known as "Attic" were found in southern Italy. The different models were probably produced both in Greece and Italy, with infinite variations according to personal taste, following a continue process of evolution and hybridation among the different models. Major commercial centres like Athens, Corinth, Syracusae, Tarentum, Neapolis, Cumae, Spina, Caerae and Carthage spread these products in the whole Mediterranean world.


P.S. Thanks a lot to all

[SigniferOne]

Modern "academic" definitions for helmets like Corinthian, Attic, Chalcidian etc. are purely conventional. For example almost all of the surviving helmets now known as "Attic" were found in southern Italy.

I'm curious if this includes artistic details, e.g. friezes or sculptural remains from Attica?

[Luciano B]

I'm curious if this includes artistic details, e.g. friezes or sculptural remains from Attica?

I noticed that the definition "Attic" was given because such a kind of helmets were often depicted in "Attic" type painted pottery ...but also the definition of "Attic" pottery is a conventional one, including all the pottery products which follow the same artistic scheme classified by the scholars as "Attic".