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    Default I'd Like To Inquire Why A Post Hasn't Been Removed After Reporting It, Where Would I Go?

    Do I go to the Tribunal? Praetorium? Where?

    I have two cases, one where I reported my own thread wanting it to be closed, it's been 3 days not closed. The 2nd is one that is obvious spam, off topic, and all around not needed yet has not been removed. If anything I just want to know why.
    You cannot pick and choose what to follow from your holy books. If you are truly a Christian, you must follow the bible by the letter. One read through Leviticus, where the disabled are barred from Church attendance, and homosexuals should be the least of your worry. It's the whole book or none of it, and to follow the whole book is to be immoral.
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    Default Re: I'd Like To Inquire Why A Post Hasn't Been Removed After Reporting It, Where Would I Go?

    Neither. You PM a senior moderator.

    1. Threads are not closed simply because the OP wants them closed. If there is legitimate debate still going on, it will stay open. The OP doesn't have the right to stifle productive debate.

    2. Are you implying that moderators have an obligation to remove a post simply because you request it?

    3. What post?
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    Default Re: I'd Like To Inquire Why A Post Hasn't Been Removed After Reporting It, Where Would I Go?

    If the thread is full of spam/or if it's pretty long, a mod normaly got no qualm against shutting it down (with great shivering plesure).

    As mentioned in the thread right next to this one, about the exact same issue:
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    Use the report button. If you see no action, it's probably because moderators judged there is no offense (all reports are looked at). If you still think there is, PM a moderator assigned to the forum this was posted in and ask for a one-on-one explanation. If you're still not satisfied, PM a Senior and ask for an explanation. If you're still not satisfied, an admin. If you still have an urge to complain, make a thread like this one.
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    Default Re: I'd Like To Inquire Why A Post Hasn't Been Removed After Reporting It, Where Would I Go?

    1. Yet if I'm the OP I don't have a right to have my own thread closed/deleted?

    2. No. Not at all.

    3. A post that simply said "Cool story bro." in a topic about something much more serious. Now, isn't this honestly spam at the least off topic?
    You cannot pick and choose what to follow from your holy books. If you are truly a Christian, you must follow the bible by the letter. One read through Leviticus, where the disabled are barred from Church attendance, and homosexuals should be the least of your worry. It's the whole book or none of it, and to follow the whole book is to be immoral.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaristh View Post
    Yet if I'm the OP I don't have a right to have my own thread closed/deleted?
    I apologize, but not if the thread is clearly being used constructively. If it becomes spammy or off topic, of course, but ordinarily in the D&D if discussion is still ongoing we tend not to close down a thread unless there is good reason.

    A post that simply said "Cool story bro." in a topic about something much more serious. Now, isn't this honestly spam at the least off topic?
    It sounds as if the post was referring to something directly relevant, so how could it be off topic? Still, I need a link before I can make any sort of judgment.
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    Default Re: I'd Like To Inquire Why A Post Hasn't Been Removed After Reporting It, Where Would I Go?

    I got a Note the other day by Viking Prince saying I did not contributaded to a debate by saying " Way to go Obama", the thread was never closed because of that, just deleted the post and a discreet PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackleaf-Wille View Post
    I got a Note the other day by Viking Prince saying I did not contributaded to a debate by saying " Way to go Obama", the thread was never closed because of that, just deleted and a quite PM.
    Well, you didn't get a note, you got a PM it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pøntifex View Post
    It sounds as if the post was referring to something directly relevant, so how could it be off topic? Still, I need a link before I can make any sort of judgment.
    You should just ignore these complaint threads if they don't specify which thread or post they're talking about. The posters know what they're doing, and they're usually framed in this way to entrap moderators into saying something out of context, then holding them to that when they eventually reveal the context.

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    Default Re: I'd Like To Inquire Why A Post Hasn't Been Removed After Reporting It, Where Would I Go?

    If you want VP the Inquisitor in your back, then do some home research on debating forum rules. It makes it easier to pinpoint the mass spammers.
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    Default Re: I'd Like To Inquire Why A Post Hasn't Been Removed After Reporting It, Where Would I Go?

    Quote Originally Posted by pannonian View Post
    You should just ignore these complaint threads if they don't specify which thread or post they're talking about. The posters know what they're doing, and they're usually framed in this way to entrap moderators into saying something out of context, then holding them to that when they eventually reveal the context.
    Well I'm sorry I thought privacy was still something thought to be held considerate. Yet if you're going to accuse me of trying to "trap moderators" than fine. Here's a link, first post after the OP.

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=301481

    I'd like to make a bit of a note, that the phrase "Cool story bro" is more or less a spammy thing someone says. It's not meant to be serious to say that the story was cool. Especially when the OP doesn't tell a story, but asks a question. Bit of a internet forum troll craze, thing. Like fashion IRL. Don't know how else to explain it.

    Also, as far as my own thread I wanted closed, here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=300954

    I asked a serious, unbiased, question, I got sarcastic answers. It turned into a religious blood-bath and I didn't see why anything needed to be continued. People got their points across and were basically now just fighting over who is and who isn't real, off topic by the way.
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    You cannot pick and choose what to follow from your holy books. If you are truly a Christian, you must follow the bible by the letter. One read through Leviticus, where the disabled are barred from Church attendance, and homosexuals should be the least of your worry. It's the whole book or none of it, and to follow the whole book is to be immoral.
    So it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaristh View Post
    Well I'm sorry I thought privacy was still something thought to be held considerate. Yet if you're going to accuse me of trying to "trap moderators" than fine. Here's a link, first post after the OP.
    If you're making a public thread to call for action, then obviously privacy isn't an issue. I've seen enough of these threads to be annoyed by hypothetical OPs which then turn on the moderator's explanations to demand immediate satisfaction. If the OP has something in mind, there is no reason not to explicitly state it in the OP. If the OP feels the need to hide the context until later, the OP more often than not is looking to prove moderators wrong rather than to improve the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pannonian View Post
    If you're making a public thread to call for action, then obviously privacy isn't an issue.
    I'm sorry, I could have sworn I was simply asking where to ask these question. This is not a thread to "call for action".
    I've seen enough of these threads to be annoyed by hypothetical OPs which then turn on the moderator's explanations to demand immediate satisfaction.
    Ok I'm sorry i again wonder why you're coming off so hostile on me. I ask a simple question, ask for a simple answer, then get accused for conspiring to make a fool out of a mod or something. What the heck do you take me for?

    If the OP has something in mind, there is no reason not to explicitly state it in the OP. If the OP feels the need to hide the context until later, the OP more often than not is looking to prove moderators wrong rather than to improve the site.
    Oh yes because I simply thought of someone else's privacy, I'm out to get someone. I'm out to prove the moderators wrong somehow. There is nothing to prove wrong to begin with! I mean jeez. Calm down. If anything I just wanted to wait until I could say my issues about someone's post in private with mods, so that I would not get any backlash from that person in future dealings. I'm trying to prevent a possible feud. Would you rather have me get into a feud with said person and have it turn out like last time?
    You cannot pick and choose what to follow from your holy books. If you are truly a Christian, you must follow the bible by the letter. One read through Leviticus, where the disabled are barred from Church attendance, and homosexuals should be the least of your worry. It's the whole book or none of it, and to follow the whole book is to be immoral.
    So it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaristh View Post
    I'm sorry, I could have sworn I was simply asking where to ask these question. This is not a thread to "call for action".
    Ok I'm sorry i again wonder why you're coming off so hostile on me. I ask a simple question, ask for a simple answer, then get accused for conspiring to make a fool out of a mod or something. What the heck do you take me for?

    Oh yes because I simply thought of someone else's privacy, I'm out to get someone. I'm out to prove the moderators wrong somehow. There is nothing to prove wrong to begin with! I mean jeez. Calm down. If anything I just wanted to wait until I could say my issues about someone's post in private with mods, so that I would not get any backlash from that person in future dealings. I'm trying to prevent a possible feud. Would you rather have me get into a feud with said person and have it turn out like last time?
    If you want to ask about a moderation issue but want to keep it private, PM a senior moderator with the full details. They'll eventually get back to you, and if your question seems sincere rather than point-making, they'll probably give you a detailed explanation. If you want to discuss a general issue rather than demand specific moderating action, Q&S is the right place.

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    Default Re: I'd Like To Inquire Why A Post Hasn't Been Removed After Reporting It, Where Would I Go?

    Quote Originally Posted by pannonian View Post
    If you want to ask about a moderation issue but want to keep it private, PM a senior moderator with the full details. They'll eventually get back to you, and if your question seems sincere rather than point-making, they'll probably give you a detailed explanation. If you want to discuss a general issue rather than demand specific moderating action, Q&S is the right place.


    You see, before I didn't know, so I came here to ask. Luckily for me someone (else) was able to direct me to the right place. I plan on going to that place, now that my question is answered. Until of course someone came around to accuse me of trying to trap moderators and attempt to humiliate them by proving them wrong, out of no where, and of course I have no idea wtf I am apparently trying to prove.

    Now you've just gone around again and told me to do what I already meant to do after being told to do it by another person. Great. Perfect.
    Last edited by John F. Kennedy; October 06, 2009 at 08:56 PM.
    You cannot pick and choose what to follow from your holy books. If you are truly a Christian, you must follow the bible by the letter. One read through Leviticus, where the disabled are barred from Church attendance, and homosexuals should be the least of your worry. It's the whole book or none of it, and to follow the whole book is to be immoral.
    So it goes.
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    Default Re: I'd Like To Inquire Why A Post Hasn't Been Removed After Reporting It, Where Would I Go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Isaristh View Post
    3. A post that simply said "Cool story bro." in a topic about something much more serious. Now, isn't this honestly spam at the least off topic?
    This is a 4chan tactic for defusing a trolling attempt. It leaves no room for a response and effectively stops it. Just thought I might point that out

    Now I've got to go bash my head against a wall so I forget both that, and how I know that.

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