Ottomas

[darkhorn]

Why in the game Ottomas speak like Arabs? Even I caanot pronaunce what they say.
Here is a real Turkish from that period (the man in reds is from the Ottoman tribe). My native language (a Turkish dialect) is very close to it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kHEX7nRPcI

And the modern:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcXik-v8gvE

[alpaca]

Why in the game Ottomas speak like Arabs? Even I caanot pronaunce what they say.
Here is a real Turkish from that period (the man in reds is from the Ottoman tribe). My native language (a Turkish dialect) is very close to it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kHEX7nRPcI

This is a wild shot, but I will venture it nevertheless: Maybe the devs didn't have the time or resources to record realistic voice-overs with the correct tongues and accents of the time for every faction? I know, I know, it's far-fetched and basically a million-to-one-chance but it might just be true! Although you will most likely get some more answers on the lines of: "because they want to screw over all upstanding Turkish people and spit on the Turks as a people"

[darkhorn]

And they use african or arabic skin/surface on the ottoman soldiers. Why?
They can just google it and they can see in the old miniatures that Seljuks (pre-Ottomans) and early Ottomas were like Chineese people or in other words Asian race. Later they (we) become more like Europeans. (no african-arabics here)
And the other Turkic languages have no rude accent, like the modern Turkish.

It is obvios that the developers try to create a "different" army/nation from the other ones. And they choose the Arabs. And since there is not powerful (actually any) Arabic state at that time they go to the Ottomas and switch their tongue with Arabic accent. It is ridiculous. Shame on the the developers. I want them to copmare Age of Epires with their game.

ETW is not a war simulation but a fantasy game.
Think that Englisman speaks in Arabic accent.

[Yojimbo]

This is a wild shot, but I will venture it nevertheless: Maybe the devs didn't have the time or resources to record realistic voice-overs with the correct tongues and accents of the time for every faction? I know, I know, it's far-fetched and basically a million-to-one-chance but it might just be true! Although you will most likely get some more answers on the lines of: "because they want to screw over all upstanding Turkish people and spit on the Turks as a people"

Or maybe they just did it really half assed and when they try to have every nation speak their language they should actually make sure they get it right? i am 100% certain if the game was filled with typos in its English you'd complain but since you couldn't give a rats ass about Turks which is only too evident from your post you think sarcastic caustic posts are better. How about seeing it from somebody else's perspective instead of posting pointlessly inflammatory posts.

[Mad_Cat]

Why in the game Ottomas speak like Arabs? Even I caanot pronaunce what they say.
Here is a real Turkish from that period (the man in reds is from the Ottoman tribe). My native language (a Turkish dialect) is very close to it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kHEX7nRPcI

And the modern:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcXik-v8gvE

What Dialect of Turkish do you speak? the Turkish in the game is not Arabic, might have Arabic words like "Hajoom" (which means Attack) which is word that most people in the ME would probably use even if it isn't the "native" word but the majority of the words are Turkish.

[darkhorn]

What Dialect of Turkish do you speak? the Turkish in the game is not Arabic, might have Arabic words like "Hajoom" (which means Attack) which is word that most people in the ME would probably use even if it isn't the "native" word but the majority of the words are Turkish.

I do not talk about words, I talk about the accent. In the game they speak in Arabic accent.
Okay, listen that and think that man is the speaker for the British soldiers, says "Attack" or "Yes sir" in German accent. Think that he is something like a English/British commander in the game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jMulmty5Uk
or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8IqZXy1s8
Can you understand what I mean?
Will you play this game?

[darkhorn]

What Dialect of Turkish do you speak? the Turkish in the game is not Arabic, might have Arabic words like "Hajoom" (which means Attack) which is word that most people in the ME would probably use even if it isn't the "native" word but the majority of the words are Turkish.

I do not talk about words, I talk about the accent. In the game they speak in Arabic accent.
Okay, listen that and think that man is the speaker for the British soldiers. Something like a English/British commander:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jMulmty5Uk
or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8IqZXy1s8
Can you understand what I mean?
Can you understand?

[Ottoman1453]

The accent sounded pretty good to me...

No Arab could speak Turkish that well, it's definetly Turks doing the talking...

[darkhorn]

The accent sounded pretty good to me...

No Arab could speak Turkish that well, it's definetly Turks doing the talking...

Yeah yeah, I'm sure you do know even a Turkish word.
I do not speak who is speaking. I say that they spaek in Arabic accent.
(Are those people moron or something like that?)

[Kip]

Or maybe they just did it really half assed and when they try to have every nation speak their language they should actually make sure they get it right? i am 100% certain if the game was filled with typos in its English you'd complain but since you couldn't give a rats ass about Turks which is only too evident from your post you think sarcastic caustic posts are better. How about seeing it from somebody else's perspective instead of posting pointlessly inflammatory posts.

No need to be so fighty about it. Alpaca is right. If CA got the accent wrong, they got the accent wrong. It was by no means an intentional insult to Turkish people, and it certainly isn't something to get upset about. If I were him, I'd be more upset that the Turks wear flamboyant green uniforms in Vanilla, but is that a complete insult to the Turks as well? No, of course not, it's just an arbitrary gameplay decision, as was originally dressing the Spaniards in yellow. Nationalists always have bones to pick with TW games, because their faction isn't "perfect"... I remember a lot of Poles on TWC being particularly upset over "their treatment at the hands of CA" during M2TW.

CA could have made the Turks a bunch of whirling dervishes with plates of frosted Turkish Delight, and American customers wouldn't know the difference. If the accent is off, I think its forgivable.

[Mechstra]

The Dutch speak their language with a French or at least Walloon accent. The Swedish, I believe, speak with a strange lilt as well (though I haven't got confirmation of this). It's fine, honestly. Calm down. It's not a slight against Great Nation of Turkey.

[Ahiga]

I can't help but feel a little bit like this is nitpicking. If you actually look at the voice files, you'll find that the Turks and other languages were given a full job (not perhaps as much as the English voices) while the Arabic Voices for the Barbary States/Morocco/Safavids (oddly enough, since there is a Persian language the Mughals and Afghans use) are minimalist in extreme.

I've personally felt like if there's a faction CA favors outside of the British, it's the Turks. They got some of the best treatment back in MTWII for an initially unplayable (unless unlocked or edited) faction and the same holds true in ETW: Poland has 1 unique model, the British practically get no unique models. The Ottomans meanwhile get

• three/four unique textures/models for the Nizam-i units
• five-six Janissary models/textures (Beylik Grenadier & Regular, Sekban Grenadier & regular otherwise unuused, Cemaat Grenadiers & Regulars)
• the Deli Lancers and others I might be forgetting

and none of those are shared with other factions.

[eregost]

Mods please close this stupid pointless thread.

[darkhorn]

@Ahiga, it is just not fun to watch Tom Cruise in German accent in Mission Impossible III.

[darkhorn]

Mods please close this stupid pointless thread.

What is the pointless?

[eregost]

Its pointless because it wont change anything and the issue of ottoman accents is far far down the list of things that can be done to improve the game.

[MortenJessen]

Hi all.
Risking trouble with the moderation branch, I say to the OP, try:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=258287
For Brigadier Graham's, Authentic & Historical,FACTION SPECIFIC, Battle Tunes. It might solve some of your problems. It is a nice mod, I use it my self. I have never noticed the Ottomans speaking in general, but it is pretty different from vanilla.
Y.S.
M. Jessen

[SunofVich]

I would like to point out my frustration that the US units say "For Crown and Country" while moving on the campaign map when the US was most definitely not a monarchy.
I don't know of any game that uses native languages of the factions the player is playing that gets each and every language 100% right.
I could say the same about Highlander units in the game speaking with a British accent instead of Scottish. Also of the Irish Brigade speaking Spanish instead of Irish English accent or Gaelic.

Now I would guess that the Maratha speak Hindi in the game instead of Marathi but I have nothing to back that up.
Be grateful they speak Turkish at all. In Medieval 2 not only did all the factions speak with an accented English but the Turks spoke with an Arabic English accent. And the Imams sometimes said Salaam which I am pretty sure is an Arabic greeting.

[Kip]

I would like to point out my frustration that the US units say "For Crown and Country" while moving on the campaign map when the US was most definitely not a monarchy.
I don't know of any game that uses native languages of the factions the player is playing that gets each and every language 100% right.
I could say the same about Highlander units in the game speaking with a British accent instead of Scottish. Also of the Irish Brigade speaking Spanish instead of Irish English accent or Gaelic.

Now I would guess that the Maratha speak Hindi in the game instead of Marathi but I have nothing to back that up.
Be grateful they speak Turkish at all. In Medieval 2 not only did all the factions speak with an accented English but the Turks spoke with an Arabic English accent. And the Imams sometimes said Salaam which I am pretty sure is an Arabic greeting.

Good post. Sums it up very well. We're all victims under the OP's reasoning.

[Mechstra]

I've heard the Maratha units say 'Jildi Jao' which is one of the few Hindi phrases I'm familiar with. Definitely not Marathi that they speak.