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    Working on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space_Ed View Post
    Thankyou

    At the minute for Norway we have:

    Třnsberg in a province called Vestfold og řstfold

    Bergen initially called Bjřrgvin in 1080 and Bergen in 1300 in a province called Hordaland og Rogaland

    Nidaros is in a province called Trřndelag

    So some of them are the same but some are different. Can you give me any evidence to support changing the province and settlement names that are different to the ones you suggest? Thanks.
    You should not forget Viken, today known as Oslo and Akershus. But also Toten/Gjřvik are today in Oppland county. It seems the list you got so far is more roughly counties than settlements.

    I would list these settlements; I was wrinting a paper on it but due to real life issues it went out the window :

    Viken http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viken,_Norway (not implementing Viken would be a historical blunder)
    Kaupang http://www.kaupang.uio.no/eng/index.html
    Bergen
    Ringerike, then known as Hringariki
    Nidaros
    Bohus and Konghelle (today known as Kungalv in modern day Sweden) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung%C3%A4lv
    Iceland, the Faroese Islands, Orkney and Isle of man.

    I must emphasize that a country the size of Norway really deserves as many settlements as the other nations of that era.
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    How's all this stuff coming along?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giorgios View Post
    How's all this stuff coming along?
    This is the most up to date version on our forum:

    Reference Name / 1080 Name / Alternate Name (event trigger) / Alternate Name (event trigger) / Province Name



    England Faction

    1, 25, London / Lundenwic / Lunden (1250) / London (1380) / Londres (France) / Lunnainn (Scotland) / Eastsexe

    2, 26, Canterbury / Cantwareburh / Canterbury (1310) / Cantorbéry (France) / Cent and Sudsexe

    3, 27, Winchester / Wintanceastre / Winchester (1315) / Westsexe and Cornwealas

    4, 24, Norwich / Norwic / Norwich (1260) / Nordfolc and Sudfolc

    5, 30, Lincoln / Lincolia / Lincoln (1250) / Mierce

    6, 23, York / Eorfowic / Yorwic (1230) / Yorwik (1300) / York (1340) / Eabhraig (Scots) / Northymbre

    7, 54, Rouen / Rouen / Normaundie



    Scotland

    8, 21, Perth / Peairt / Perth (England or France) / Alba

    9, 21, Inverness/ Inhbir Nis / Inverness (England) / Fionn

    10, 22 Edinburgh / Důn Čideann / Edinburgh (England) / Édimbourg (France) / Lallans

    11, 19, Elgin / Eilginn / Elgin (England) / Ce agus Circin



    Rest of British Isles (not including the Shetland Isles)

    12, 28, Dublin / Dubh Linn / Dublin (England) / Éire

    13, 29, Aberffraw / Aberffraw / Cymru



    Norway Faction

    14, 18, Kirkwall / Kirkjuvagr / Kirkwall (England) / Kirkwaa (Scots) / Orkneyjar, Suđreyjar og Hjaltland

    15, 4, Tonsberg / Tunsberg / Třnsberg (Denmark) / Austlandiđ og Agder

    16, 3, Bergin / Björgvin / Bergen (1300) / Vestlandiđ

    17, 2, Nidaros / Nidaros / Trondhjem (Denmark) / Trondheim (1400) / Trondheimen, Hálogaland og Ísland



    Iberia

    18, 69, Pamplona / Iruńa / Banbalona (Arab) / Pampelune (France) / Navarra

    19, 72, Jaca / Chaca / Chaqah (Arab) / Arago

    20, 71, Barcelona / Barselonah (Arab) / Barcino (S/P/I Pre 1200) / Barcelona (1200) / Barcellona (I 1250) / Barcelone (France) / Catalunya

    21, 61, Zaragoza / Saraqusta (Arab) / Zaragoza (S/P) / Saragosse (France) / Saraqusta

    22, 57, Burgos / Castilla

    23, 56, Leon / Llión / Liyon (Arab) / León (France) / Asturias

    24, 55, Santiago de Compostela / Santiago de Compostela (S/P) / Shanet Yaqub (Arab) / Saint-Jacques-de-Compostelle (France) / Galicia

    25, 65, Porto / Oporto (S/P) / Burtuqal (Arab) / Portucale

    26, 67, Coimbra / Coimbra (S/P) / Qalmarbah Qalnabrabah (Arab) Alentejo

    27, 62, Toledo / Talehtalah (Arab) / Toledo (S/P) / Al Talehtali

    28, 58, Valencia / Balensiya (Arab) / Valčncia (S/P) / Valentia (Ital. Pre 1250) / Valenzia (Ital. 1250) / Al Balensi

    29, 63, Murcia / Mednat Mursiya (Arab) / Murcia (S/P/I) / Al Mursi

    30, 64, Granada / Gharnatah (Arab) / Granada (S/P) / Granata (I pre 1250) / Granada (I 1250) / Grenade (France) / Al Gharnati

    31, 59, Cordoba / Qurtuba (Arab) / Cordoba (S/P) / Al Qurtubi

    32, 60, Sevilla / Isbiliya (Arab) / Sevilla (S/P) / Al Isbili

    33, 70, Silves / Shilb (Arab) / Silves (S/P) / Al Gharb

    34, 66, Lisbon / Al Ishbuna (Arab) / Lisboa (S/P) / Al Ishbuni

    35, 68, Palma / Madina Mayurqah (Arab) / Palma (S/P/I/F) / Baleares



    Italia

    36, 90, Bonifacio / Bunifaziu / Bonifacio (anyone who isn’t a rebel or Genovan) / Corsica

    37, 89, Cagliari / Caralis / Caliari (1250) / Cagliari (1320) / Sardinia

    38, 86, Palermo / Panormus / Palermo (1260) / Sicilia Occidentalis

    39, 82, Messina / Messana / Messina (1260) / Messini (B) / Sicilia Orientalis

    40, 92, Taranto / Tarentum / Taranto (1200) / Tarantas (B) / Apulia, Lucania e Calabria

    41, 79, Benevento / Beneventum / Benevento (1230) / Sannio

    42, 78, Napoli / Neapoli / Napoli (1230) / Neapoli (B) / Liburia

    43, 77, Florence / Florentia / Florenza (1230) / Fiorenza (1300) / Firenze (1390) / Tuscia

    44, 75, Turin / Taurinorum / Torino (1220) / Turin (F) / Regio Transpadana

    45, 74, Milan / Mediolanum / Milano (1230) / Longbardia

    46, 87, Verona / Verona / Venetia

    47, 76, Venice / Venetia / Venesia (1320) / Dogado

    48, 93, Reggio Emilia / Regium Lepidi / Reggio Emilia (1260) / Regio Cispadana

    49, 88, Bologna / Bononia / Bologna (1250) / Bolonia (B) / Emilia

    50, 91, Ravenna / Ravenna / Romagna

    51, 80, Pisa / Pisae / Pisa (1230) / Maremma

    52, 83, Ancona / Ancona / Marca Anconitana

    53, 73, Rome / Roma / Patrimonium Sancti Petri

    54, 81, Genova / Genua / Genova (1290) / Gęnes (F) / Liguria



    France

    55, 42, Paris / Paris / Parigi (I) / Ile-de-France

    56, 53, Rheims / Rheims / Champagne Nord

    57, 52, Troyes / Troyes / Champagne

    58, 46, Rennes / Roazhon / Breizh

    59, 51, Angers / Angers / Anjou et Maine

    60, 49, Poitiers / Poitiers / Poitou

    61, 43, Orleans / Auleans / Orléans (1190) / Auleanais

    62, 48, Dijon / Dijon / Bourgogne

    63, 85, Clermont / Clarmont d’Auvčrnhe / Auvčrnhe

    64, 44, Bordeaux / Bordču / Aquitŕnia

    65, 45, Toulouse / Tolosa / Comtat de Tolosa

    66, 47, Aix / Aics / Provença



    Holy Roman Empire

    67, 40, Utrecht / Utrecht / Frisia

    68, 41, Cologne / Coellen / Koln (1150) / Köln (1250) / Nieder Lothringen

    69, 37, Worms / Wormatia / Worms (1270) / Franken

    70, 35, Metz / Metis / Metz (1180) / Lothringen und Elzas

    71, 36, Basel / Baselia / Basel (1190) / Helvetia

    72, 34, Augsburg / Augstburc / Augsburg (1185) / Bayern und Schwaben

    73, 38, Nurnberg / Nuorenberc / Nuorenberg (1170) / Nürnberg (1270) / Bayern

    74, 97, Meissen / Mišno (R) / Misnia (1150) / Meissen (1260) / Meißen (1340) / Łužica

    75, 31, Magdeburg / Magathaburc / Magathaburg (1170) / Magdeburg (1270) / Ober Sachsen

    76, 39, Lyon / Lyon / Burgund

    77, 32, Vienna / Wien / Österreich

    78, 33, Bremen / Bremon / Bremen (1140) / Nieder Sachsen



    Denmark

    79, 12, Ribe / Ripen / Ribe (1300) / Jylland

    80, 11, Odense / Odense / Fyn

    81, 10, Roskilde / Roskilde / Sjćlland

    82, 9, Lund / Lund / Skĺne



    Sweden

    83, 5, Skara / Skara / Vćstgřtland

    84, 6, Linkoping / Linkřpung / Linkřping (1170) / Linköping (1270) / Řstgřtland

    85, 7, Wisby / Wisby / Gutland

    86, 8, Uppsala / Řstra Aros / Östra Aros (1220) / Uppsala (1300) / Svealand



    North Germany

    87, 94, Lübeck / Liubice (R) / Lubieck (G pre 1255) / Lübeck (G 1255) / Polabe



    Poland (Rebels)

    88, 96, Szczecin / Sztetëno / Szczecin (R) / Stettin (G) / Zôpadnô Pňmňrskô

    89, 95, Gdansk / Gduńsk / Gdańsk (R) / Danzig (G) / Pňrénkňwô Pňmňrskô

    90, 17, Kaliningrad / Twānksta / Królewiec (R post 1255) / Konigsberc (G pre 1240) / Königberg (G post 1240) / Prūsa

    (Poland Faction)

    91, 99, Poznan / Poznań (R) / Posen (G) / Wielkopolska

    92, 100, Plock / Płock (R) / Plock (G) / Mazowsze

    93, 102, Wroclaw / Wrocłow (R) / Breslau (G) / Ślůnsk

    94, 101, Krakow / Kraków (R) / Krakau (G) / Małopolska

    (Rebels)

    95, 103, Przemysl / Przemyśl (R) / Prömsel (G) / Grody Czerwieńskie



    Bohemia

    96, 104, Prague / Praha (R) / Prag (G) / Čechy

    97, 105, Hradec Králové / Hradec Králové (R) / Königgrätz (G) / Východni Čechy

    98, 106, Olomouc / Olomouc (R) / Olmütz (G) / Morava



    Baltic Rebels

    99, 14, Klaipeda / Klaipeda / Memelbug (Teutonic) / Memel (G) / Žemaitija

    100, 15, Riga / Riga / Latvija

    101, 16, Reval / Revel (R) / Tallin (G) / Eesti

    102, 1, Turku / Turku / Suomi



    Lithuania

    103, 13, Vilnius / Vilna (R) / Wilna (G) / Aukštaitija



    Novgorod

    104, 130, Pskov / Izborsk / Pleskov (1200) / Pskov (1300) / Pleskau (G) / Pribaltika

    105, 129, Novgorod / Nóvgorod (R) / Nowgorod (G) / Novgorodskoe Knyazhestvo



    Russian Rebels

    106, 135, Minsk / Mensk / Minsk (1230) / Belaya Rus

    107, 131, Polotsk / Polotsk / Polotskoe Knyazhestvo

    108, 132, Smolensk / Smolensk / Smolenskoe Knyazhestvo

    109, 138, Moscow / Moskov / Suzdalskoe Knyazhestvo

    110, 139, Ryazan / Ryazan / Ryazanskaya Zemlya

    111, 137, Rostov / Rostov / Rostovskaya Zemlya

    112, 140, Bilar / Bilyar / Bilyarskaya Zemlya

    113, 134, Halych / Halych / Halicz (R) / Halics (Hungary) / Halychyna

    114, 98, Brest / Berestye / Brzest (R) / Turovskaya Zemlya

    115, 133, Czernihov / Chernihov / Chernihovskoe Knyazhestvo

    116, 136, Kiev / Kiev / Pridneprovie

    117, 143, Tmutarakan / Phangoria / Tmutorakan (1200) / Priazovie



    Kypchaks

    118, 84, Ukek / Ukek

    119, 141, Sarai Batu / Sarai Batu

    120, 144, Majar / Majar



    Moldovian Rebel

    121, 145, Iasi / Iasi / Moldovia



    Hungary

    122, 107, Ostrzyhom / Esztergom / Óstrzyhom (P) / Szlovákia

    123, 108, Pécs / Pécs / Baranya

    124, 123, Waradyn / Oradea / Waradyn (P) / Várad

    125, 109, Gyulafehéravár / Gyulafehéravár / Erdély

    126, 118, Zagreb / Zágráb (Hungarian) / Zagreb (G) / Zagabria (I) / Hrvatska



    Illyrian Rebels

    127, 119, Zadar / Iadera (Rebel) / Zara (I) / Zachloumia

    128, 112, Ragusa / Dubrovnik (Rebel/R) / Ragusa (I) / Ragousa (B) / Diochleia



    Byzantium

    129, 113, Belgrade / Velígradi (B) / Belgrád (R) / Serbia

    130, 111, Ras / Ras / Raska

    131, 116, Vidin / Vidin / Mikra Boulgaria

    132, 114, Tarnovo / Veliko Tarnovo / Megali Boulgaria

    133, 115, Varna / Varna / Sirmíou

    134, 128, Constantinople / Konstantinoupolis (B) / Qustantinia (A) / Mikra Thraki

    135, 127, Edirne / Adrianoupolis (B) / Megali Thraki

    136, 124, Thessaloniki / Thessaloniki (B) / Mikra Makedonia

    137, 117, Ochryda / Ochrida (B) / Megali Makedonia

    138, 126, Dyrrachium / Dyrrachion (B) / Durazzo (I) / Drach (R) / Illuria

    139, 125, Nicopolis / Nikopolis (B) / Nicopoli (I) / Epeiros

    140, 123, Patras / Pátrai (B) / Patrasso (I) / Pelopónnisos

    141, 122, Athens / Athenai (B) / Atene (I) / Ellas

    142, 120, Iraklion / Irákleion / Candia (I) / Iraklion (A) / Kriti

    143, 166, Rhodos / Ródos (B) / Rodi (I) / Rodos (A) / Ródos

    144, 163, Attalia / Attaleia (B) / Karavisiánon

    145, 121, Nicosia / Lefkosia (B) / Nicosia (E/F/I/A) / Kýpros

    146, 162, Sinope / Sinópi (B) / Sinope (I) / Paphlagonia

    147, 160, Trebizond / Trapezous (B) / Chaldia

    148, 142, Surozh / Surozh (B/R) / Soldaia (I) / Krimaia



    Moors

    149, 188, Marrakech / Marrakesh (A) / Al-Atlas al-Sageer

    150, 190, Rabat / Ar Rabat (A) / Barghawata

    151, 187, Fes / Fas (A) / Sebal al-Atlas

    152, 189, Ceuta / Sebta (A) / Maqrib Shemalia

    153, 194, Tlemclen / Tlmecan (A) / Ifriqiya al-Qarbi

    154, 195, Algiers / Jazayr (A) / Shemal Qarb Ifriqiya



    North African Rebels

    155, 193, Tunis / Tunis (A) / Ifriqiya al-Shemali

    156, 191, Sfax / Safaqis (A) / Ifriqiya al-Markazi

    157, 192, Tripoli / Tarabulus (A) / Tripoli (I) / Ifriqiya al-Sharqi

    158, 196, Benghazi / Benghazi (A) / Al-Jabal al-Akhdar



    Fatimid Caliphate

    159, 199, Alexandria / Eskindria (A) / Shemal Qarb Masr

    160, 197, Fustat Misr / Fustat Misr (A) / Nahar Nile

    161, 198, Dumyat / Domiat (A) / Delta Nile

    162, 181, Aqaba / Aqaba (A) / Sina

    163, 172, Jidda / Jeddah (A) / Jazeera al-Arab al-Qarbi



    Middle Eastern Rebels

    164, 173, Aden / Aden (A) / Jazeera al-Arab al-Sanobi

    165, 174, Riyadh / Riyadh (A) / Arabi

    166, 179, Basra / Basrah (A) / Iraq al-Sanobi

    167, 186, Najaf / Al Najaf (A) / Iraq al-Qarbi

    168, 151, Baghdad / Baghdad / Iraq al-Sharqi



    Syria

    169, 150, Mosul / Mosul (A) / Curdistan

    170, 146, Aleppo / Halab (A) / Alep (F) / Aleppo (I) / Suriya



    Sultinate of Rum

    171, 158, Izmir / Smyrna / Izmir (1270) / Yarzmir (A) / Samos

    172, 161, Alasehir / Philadelpheia / Alasehir (1280) / Maghnisiyah (A) / Thrakision

    173, 157, Iznik / Nikaia / Iznik (1275) / Yaznik (A) / Opsikίοn

    174, 159, Konya / Ikónion / Konya (1277) / Anatolikon



    Turkish Rebel

    175, 164, Adana / Adana / Uru Adania (A) / Kilikia



    Seljuks

    176, 165, Kayseri / Kaisariyah (Se) / Charisanόn

    177, 167, Ani / Ani (Se) / Hayastan

    178, 148, Tabriz / Tabriz (Se) / Azerbaijan

    179, 175, Isfahan / Isfahan (Se) / Iran

    180, 176, Shiraz / Shiraz (Se) / Fars

    181, 180, Hormuz / Hormuz (Se) / Makran

    182, 178, Nishapur / Neyshapur (Se) / Nisapur (A) / Khorasan

    183, 177, Urgench / Gorganch (Se) / Khorezm

    184, 154, Damascus / Shaam (Se) / Damashq (A) / Damasco (I/S/P) / Damaskos (B) / Damaskus (G) / Damaszek (R) / Damas (F) / Ash-Shaam

    185, 147, Acre / Akko (Se) / Akka (A/P) / Saint-Jean-d’Acre (F) / Acre (E/S/P) / Giovanni d’Acri (I) / Akkon (G) / Akra (B) / Galilee

    186, 156, Tyre / Sur (Se /A) / Tyr (F/P) / Tyre (E) / Tyros (G) / Tiro (S/I/P) / Turos (B) / Lubnaan

    187, 155, Jerusalem / Al-Quds (Se/A) / Solyme (F) / Jerusalem (E/G) / Jerusalén (S) / Gerusalemme (I) / Ierousalím (B) / Jerozolima (R) / Jerusalém (P) / Eretz Yisrael

    188, 153, Ashkelon / Ashkelon (Se/E) / Ascalon (A/F) / Aschkelon (G) / Ascalón (S) / Ascalona (I) / Aszkelon (P) / Ascalăo (P) / Gaza



    Sub Saharan Africa

    189, 184, Koumbi Saleh / Koumbi Saleh (A) /

    190, 183, Timbuktu / Tinbuktu / Timbuktu (1300/A)

    191, 182, Kano / Dala

    192, 185, Dongola / Tungul / Nubia



    Georgia

    193, 170, Tskumi / Tskhumi / Abhkazeti

    194, 168, Kutaisi / Kutatisi / Egrisi

    195, 169, Tbilisi / Tbilisi / Kartli



    Georgian Rebel

    196, 171, Derbent / Derbent / Azerbaycan



    Armenia

    197, 149, Edessa / Edessa / Mesopotamia

    198, 152, Antioch / Antakiya / Antakya (A) / Antiocheia



    Belgian Rebels

    199. 50, Gent / Gent / Vlaanderen



    ...but the newest version is saved to my university profile and I'm in my house right now so I dont know if I've made any changes to it since then. Either way this is it basically. You or anyone else are very welcome to make suggestions.

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    I've got no idea why some of that just came up as bold.

    And here is a picture of the current border plan for most of europe:

    Last edited by Space_Ed; December 04, 2009 at 02:59 AM.

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    Only 3 settlements in mainland Norway?
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haakon View Post
    Only 3 settlements in mainland Norway?
    That wasn't my decision. Norway is getting 4 settlements though plus Permanent Stone Fortresses. And it is getting Iceland. And its getting accurate names. Thats not bad. There is a limit of 199 provinces. It is a very large map to cover for 199 provinces.

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    Considering what Hross was saying about Scandinavia in Middle ages 3 settlements in Norway alone is quiet a luxury comparing to how much (and how populated) portion of world we cover...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space_Ed View Post
    I've got no idea why some of that just came up as bold.

    And here is a picture of the current border plan for most of europe:

    Can't see the border plan. .
    Constantinople was known to most of the Slavic factions as Tsargrad, or Miklagard for the Scandinavians and Rus. Maybe it might be an idea to include this name change, plus others for much of the Imperial Balkans?

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    Why is the region name for Ostrzyhom / Esztergom / Óstrzyhom (P) called Szlovákia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RottenTree View Post
    Why is the region name for Ostrzyhom / Esztergom / Óstrzyhom (P) called Szlovákia?
    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...1e4dae4c0dca89

    I think if you look on this map it should be pretty self-explanatory

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giorgios View Post
    Can't see the border plan. .
    Constantinople was known to most of the Slavic factions as Tsargrad, or Miklagard for the Scandinavians and Rus. Maybe it might be an idea to include this name change, plus others for much of the Imperial Balkans?
    Yeah they are good name changes. I will add them to the plan. If you could write uo a plan of name changes for the Balkans that would be good. I think you cant see the plan because it is linked from our forum and its got protection to stop people accessing it. I'll see if I can find a better way to put it up here.

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    There u go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space_Ed View Post
    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...1e4dae4c0dca89

    I think if you look on this map it should be pretty self-explanatory
    Slovakia is a modern name and "Szlovákia" sounds like Hungarian to me, which is odd. The area was known throughout the history as Upper Hungary and therefore should be named according to that - most likely in Hungarian: "Felső-Magyarország". Slovakian did not exist in written form until second half of 19th century (in its beginnings the written Slovakian was Czech).

    If we wanted to use local language similarly to the Slavs in Pomerania and by Labe/Elbe, then the name would be still Upper Hungary, in Slovakian "Horné Uhorsko". But that might be too much stretch even using Slovakian in Middle ages...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resurrection View Post
    Slovakia is a modern name and "Szlovákia" sounds like Hungarian to me, which is odd. The area was known throughout the history as Upper Hungary and therefore should be named according to that - most likely in Hungarian: "Felső-Magyarország". Slovakian did not exist in written form until second half of 19th century (in its beginnings the written Slovakian was Czech).
    Ah right well it was on someone else's suggestion... erm that Polak guy. Yeah but it is in Hungarian because it is owned by the Hungarians.

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    New Version:

    Letter Key:
    F = France
    S = Spanish Faction
    P = Portugal
    I = Italian Faction
    A = Arab Faction
    E = England
    B = Byzantium
    G= German
    R= Slavic Faction i.e. Poland etc
    Se = Seljuq

    Reference Name / 1080 Name / Alternate Name (event trigger) / Alternate Name (event trigger) / Province Name

    England Faction
    1, 25, London / Lundenwic / Lunden (1250) / London (1380) / Londres (France) / Lunnainn (Scotland) / Eastsexe
    2, 26, Canterbury / Cantwareburh / Canterbury (1310) / Cantorbéry (France) / Cent and Sudsexe
    3, 27, Winchester / Wintanceastre / Winchester (1315) / Westsexe and Cornwealas
    4, 24, Norwich / Norwic / Norwich (1260) / Nordfolc and Sudfolc
    5, 30, Lincoln / Lincolia / Lincoln (1250) / Mierce
    6, 23, York / Eorfowic / Yorwic (1230) / Yorwik (1300) / York (1340) / Eabhraig (Scots) / Northymbre
    7, 54, Rouen / Rouen / Normaundie

    Scotland
    8, 21, Perth / Peairt / Perth (England or France) / Alba
    9, 21, Inverness/ Inhbir Nis / Inverness (England) / Fionn
    10, 22 Edinburgh / Důn Čideann / Edinburgh (England) / Édimbourg (France) / Lallans
    11, 19, Elgin / Eilginn / Elgin (England) / Ce agus Circin

    Rest of British Isles (not including the Shetland Isles)
    12, 28, Dublin / Dubh Linn / Dublin (England) / Éire
    13, 29, Aberffraw / Aberffraw / Cymru

    Norway Faction
    14, 18, Kirkwall / Kirkjuvagr / Kirkwall (England) / Kirkwaa (Scots) / Orkneyjar, Suđreyjar og Hjaltland
    15, 4, Tonsberg / Tunsberg / Třnsberg (Denmark) / Austlandiđ og Agder
    16, 3, Bergin / Björgvin / Bergen (1300) / Vestlandiđ
    17, 2, Nidaros / Nidaros / Trondhjem (Denmark) / Trondheim (1400) / Trondheimen, Hálogaland og Ísland

    Iberia
    18, 69, Pamplona / Iruńa / Banbalona (Arab) / Pampelune (France) / Navarra
    19, 72, Jaca / Chaca / Chaqah (Arab) / Arago
    20, 71, Barcelona / Barselonah (Arab) / Barcino (S/P/I Pre 1200) / Barcelona (1200) / Barcellona (I 1250) / Barcelone (France) / Catalunya
    21, 61, Zaragoza / Saraqusta (Arab) / Zaragoza (S/P) / Saragosse (France) / Saraqusta
    22, 57, Burgos / Castilla
    23, 56, Leon / Llión / Liyon (Arab) / León (France) / Asturias
    24, 55, Santiago de Compostela / Santiago de Compostela (S/P) / Shanet Yaqub (Arab) / Saint-Jacques-de-Compostelle (France) / Galicia
    25, 65, Porto / Oporto (S/P) / Burtuqal (Arab) / Portucale
    26, 67, Coimbra / Coimbra (S/P) / Qalmarbah Qalnabrabah (Arab) Alentejo
    27, 62, Toledo / Talehtalah (Arab) / Toledo (S/P) / Al Talehtali
    28, 58, Valencia / Balensiya (Arab) / Valčncia (S/P) / Valentia (Ital. Pre 1250) / Valenzia (Ital. 1250) / Al Balensi
    29, 63, Murcia / Mednat Mursiya (Arab) / Murcia (S/P/I) / Al Mursi
    30, 64, Granada / Gharnatah (Arab) / Granada (S/P) / Granata (I pre 1250) / Granada (I 1250) / Grenade (France) / Al Gharnati
    31, 59, Cordoba / Qurtuba (Arab) / Cordoba (S/P) / Al Qurtubi
    32, 60, Sevilla / Isbiliya (Arab) / Sevilla (S/P) / Al Isbili
    33, 70, Silves / Shilb (Arab) / Silves (S/P) / Al Gharb
    34, 66, Lisbon / Al Ishbuna (Arab) / Lisboa (S/P) / Al Ishbuni
    35, 68, Palma / Madina Mayurqah (Arab) / Palma (S/P/I/F) / Baleares

    Italia
    36, 90, Bonifacio / Bunifaziu / Bonifacio (anyone who isn’t a rebel or Genovan) / Corsica
    37, 89, Cagliari / Caralis / Caliari (1250) / Cagliari (1320) / Sardinia
    38, 86, Palermo / Panormus / Palermo (1260) / Sicilia Occidentalis
    39, 82, Messina / Messana / Messina (1260) / Messini (B) / Sicilia Orientalis
    40, 92, Taranto / Tarentum / Taranto (1200) / Tarantas (B) / Apulia, Lucania e Calabria
    41, 79, Benevento / Beneventum / Benevento (1230) / Sannio
    42, 78, Napoli / Neapoli / Napoli (1230) / Neapoli (B) / Liburia
    43, 77, Florence / Florentia / Florenza (1230) / Fiorenza (1300) / Firenze (1390) / Tuscia
    44, 75, Turin / Taurinorum / Torino (1220) / Turin (F) / Regio Transpadana
    45, 74, Milan / Mediolanum / Milano (1230) / Longbardia
    46, 87, Verona / Verona / Venetia
    47, 76, Venice / Venetia / Venesia (1320) / Dogado
    48, 93, Reggio Emilia / Regium Lepidi / Reggio Emilia (1260) / Regio Cispadana
    49, 88, Bologna / Bononia / Bologna (1250) / Bolonia (B) / Emilia
    50, 91, Ravenna / Ravenna / Romagna
    51, 80, Pisa / Pisae / Pisa (1230) / Maremma
    52, 83, Ancona / Ancona / Marca Anconitana
    53, 73, Rome / Roma / Patrimonium Sancti Petri
    54, 81, Genova / Genua / Genova (1290) / Gęnes (F) / Liguria

    France
    55, 42, Paris / Paris / Parigi (I) / Ile-de-France
    56, 53, Rheims / Rheims / Champagne Nord
    57, 52, Troyes / Troyes / Champagne
    58, 46, Rennes / Roazhon / Breizh
    59, 51, Angers / Angers / Anjou et Maine
    60, 49, Poitiers / Poitiers / Poitou
    61, 43, Orleans / Auleans / Orléans (1190) / Auleanais
    62, 48, Dijon / Dijon / Bourgogne
    63, 85, Clermont / Clarmont d’Auvčrnhe / Auvčrnhe
    64, 44, Bordeaux / Bordču / Aquitŕnia
    65, 45, Toulouse / Tolosa / Comtat de Tolosa
    66, 47, Aix / Aics / Provença

    Holy Roman Empire
    67, 40, Utrecht / Utrecht / Frisia
    68, 41, Cologne / Coellen / Koln (1150) / Köln (1250) / Nieder Lothringen
    69, 37, Worms / Wormatia / Worms (1270) / Franken
    70, 35, Metz / Metis / Metz (1180) / Lothringen und Elzas
    71, 36, Basel / Baselia / Basel (1190) / Helvetia
    72, 34, Augsburg / Augstburc / Augsburg (1185) / Bayern und Schwaben
    73, 38, Nurnberg / Nuorenberc / Nuorenberg (1170) / Nürnberg (1270) / Bayern
    74, 97, Meissen / Mišno (R) / Misnia (1150) / Meissen (1260) / Meißen (1340) / Łužica
    75, 31, Magdeburg / Magathaburc / Magathaburg (1170) / Magdeburg (1270) / Ober Sachsen
    76, 39, Lyon / Lyon / Burgund
    77, 32, Vienna / Wien / Österreich
    78, 33, Bremen / Bremon / Bremen (1140) / Nieder Sachsen

    Denmark
    79, 12, Ribe / Ripen / Ribe (1300) / Jylland
    80, 11, Odense / Odense / Fyn
    81, 10, Roskilde / Roskilde / Sjćlland
    82, 9, Lund / Lund / Skĺne

    Sweden
    83, 5, Skara / Skara / Vćstgřtland
    84, 6, Linkoping / Linkřpung / Linkřping (1170) / Linköping (1270) / Řstgřtland
    85, 7, Wisby / Wisby / Gutland
    86, 8, Uppsala / Řstra Aros / Östra Aros (1220) / Uppsala (1300) / Svealand

    North Germany
    87, 94, Lübeck / Liubice (R) / Lubieck (G pre 1255) / Lübeck (G 1255) / Polabe

    Poland (Rebels)
    88, 96, Szczecin / Sztetëno / Szczecin (R) / Stettin (G) / Zôpadnô Pňmňrskô
    89, 95, Gdansk / Gduńsk / Gdańsk (R) / Danzig (G) / Pňrénkňwô Pňmňrskô
    90, 17, Kaliningrad / Twānksta / Królewiec (R post 1255) / Konigsberc (G pre 1240) / Königberg (G post 1240) / Prūsa
    (Poland Faction)
    91, 99, Poznan / Poznań (R) / Posen (G) / Wielkopolska
    92, 100, Plock / Płock (R) / Plock (G) / Mazowsze
    93, 102, Wroclaw / Wrocłow (R) / Breslau (G) / Ślůnsk
    94, 101, Krakow / Kraków (R) / Krakau (G) / Małopolska
    (Rebels)
    95, 103, Przemysl / Przemyśl (R) / Prömsel (G) / Grody Czerwieńskie

    Bohemia
    96, 104, Prague / Praha (R) / Prag (G) / Čechy
    97, 105, Hradec Králové / Hradec Králové (R) / Königgrätz (G) / Východni Čechy
    98, 106, Olomouc /Olomouc (R) / Olmütz (G) / Morava

    Baltic Rebels
    99, 14, Klaipeda / Klaipeda / Memelbug (Teutonic) / Memel (G) / Žemaitija
    100, 15, Riga / Riga / Latvija
    101, 16, Reval / Revel (R) / Tallin (G) / Eesti
    102, 1, Turku / Turku / Suomi

    Lithuania
    103, 13, Vilnius / Vilna (R) / Wilna (G) / Aukštaitija

    Novgorod
    104, 130, Pskov / Izborsk / Pleskov (1200) / Pskov (1300) / Pleskau (G) / Pribaltika
    105, 129, Novgorod / Nóvgorod (R) / Nowgorod (G) / Novgorodskoe Knyazhestvo

    Russian Rebels
    106, 135, Minsk / Mensk / Minsk (1230) / Belaya Rus
    107, 131, Polotsk / Polotsk / Polotskoe Knyazhestvo
    108, 132, Smolensk / Smolensk / Smolenskoe Knyazhestvo
    109, 138, Moscow / Moskov / Suzdalskoe Knyazhestvo
    110, 139, Ryazan / Ryazan / Ryazanskaya Zemlya
    111, 137, Rostov / Rostov / Rostovskaya Zemlya
    112, 140, Bilar / Bilyar / Bilyarskaya Zemlya

    Kiev
    114, 98, Brest / Berestye / Brzest (R) / Turovskaya Zemlya
    113, 134, Halych / Halych / Halicz (R) / Halics (Hungary) / Halychyna
    116, 136, Kiev / Kiev / Pridneprovie
    115, 133, Czernihov / Chernihov / Chernihovskoe Knyazhestvo
    117, 143, Tmutarakan / Phangoria / Tmutorakan (1200) / Priazovie

    Kypchaks
    118, 84, Ukek / Ukek
    119, 141, Sarai Batu / Sarai Batu
    120, 144, Majar / Majar

    Moldovian Rebel
    121, 145, Iasi / Iasi / Moldovia

    Hungary
    122, 107, Ostrzyhom / Esztergom / Óstrzyhom (P) / Felső-Magyarország
    123, 108, Pécs / Pécs / Baranya
    124, 123, Waradyn / Oradea / Waradyn (P) / Várad
    125, 109, Gyulafehéravár / Gyulafehéravár / Erdély
    126, 118, Zagreb / Zágráb (Hungarian) / Zagreb (G) / Zagabria (I) / Hrvatska

    Illyrian Rebels
    127, 119, Zadar / Iadera (Rebel) / Zara (I) / Zachloumia
    128, 112, Ragusa / Dubrovnik (Rebel/R) / Ragusa (I) / Ragousa (B) / Diochleia

    Byzantium
    129, 113, Belgrade / Velígradi (B) / Belgrád (R) / Serbia
    130, 111, Ras / Ras / Raska
    131, 116, Vidin / Vidin / Mikra Boulgaria
    132, 114, Tarnovo / Veliko Tarnovo / Megali Boulgaria
    133, 115, Varna / Varna / Sirmíou
    134, 128, Constantinople / Konstantinoupolis (B) / Qustantinia (A) / Tsargrad (Slavs) / Miklagard (Russians) / Mikra Thraki
    135, 127, Edirne / Adrianoupolis (B) / Megali Thraki
    136, 124, Thessaloniki / Thessaloniki (B) / Mikra Makedonia
    137, 117, Ochryda / Ochrida (B) / Megali Makedonia
    138, 126, Dyrrachium / Dyrrachion (B) / Durazzo (I) / Drach (R) / Illuria
    139, 125, Nicopolis / Nikopolis (B) / Nicopoli (I) / Epeiros
    140, 123, Patras / Pátrai (B) / Patrasso (I) / Pelopónnisos
    141, 122, Athens / Athenai (B) / Atene (I) / Ellas
    142, 120, Iraklion / Irákleion / Candia (I) / Iraklion (A) / Kriti
    143, 166, Rhodos / Ródos (B) / Rodi (I) / Rodos (A) / Ródos
    144, 163, Attalia / Attaleia (B) / Karavisiánon
    145, 121, Nicosia / Lefkosia (B) / Nicosia (E/F/I/A) / Kýpros
    146, 162, Sinope / Sinópi (B) / Sinope (I) / Paphlagonia
    147, 160, Trebizond / Trapezous (B) / Chaldia
    148, 142, Surozh / Surozh (B/R) / Soldaia (I) / Krimaia

    Moors
    149, 188, Marrakech / Marrakesh (A) / Al-Atlas al-Sageer
    150, 190, Rabat / Ar Rabat (A) / Barghawata
    151, 187, Fes / Fas (A) / Sebal al-Atlas
    152, 189, Ceuta / Sebta (A) / Maqrib Shemalia
    153, 194, Tlemclen / Tlmecan (A) / Ifriqiya al-Qarbi
    154, 195, Algiers / Jazayr (A) / Shemal Qarb Ifriqiya

    North African Rebels
    155, 193, Tunis / Tunis (A) / Ifriqiya al-Shemali
    156, 191, Sfax / Safaqis (A) / Ifriqiya al-Markazi
    157, 192, Tripoli / Tarabulus (A) / Tripoli (I) / Ifriqiya al-Sharqi
    158, 196, Benghazi / Benghazi (A) / Al-Jabal al-Akhdar

    Fatimid Caliphate
    159, 199, Alexandria / Eskindria (A) / Shemal Qarb Masr
    160, 197, Fustat Misr / Fustat Misr (A) / Nahar Nile
    161, 198, Dumyat / Domiat (A) / Delta Nile
    162, 181, Aqaba / Aqaba (A) / Sina
    163, 172, Jidda / Jeddah (A) / Jazeera al-Arab al-Qarbi

    Middle Eastern Rebels
    164, 173, Aden / Aden (A) / Jazeera al-Arab al-Sanobi
    165, 174, Riyadh / Riyadh (A) / Arabi
    166, 179, Basra / Basrah (A) / Iraq al-Sanobi
    167, 186, Najaf / Al Najaf (A) / Iraq al-Qarbi
    168, 151, Baghdad / Baghdad / Iraq al-Sharqi

    Syria
    169, 150, Mosul / Mosul (A) / Curdistan
    170, 146, Aleppo / Halab (A) / Alep (F) / Aleppo (I) / Suriya

    Sultinate of Rum
    171, 158, Izmir / Smyrna / Izmir (1270) / Yarzmir (A) / Samos
    172, 161, Alasehir / Philadelpheia / Alasehir (1280) / Maghnisiyah (A) / Thrakision
    173, 157, Iznik / Nikaia / Iznik (1275) / Yaznik (A) / Opsikίοn
    174, 159, Konya / Ikónion / Konya (1277) / Anatolikon

    Turkish Rebel
    175, 164, Adana / Adana / Uru Adania (A) / Kilikia

    Seljuks
    176, 165, Kayseri / Kaisariyah (Se) / Charisanόn
    177, 167, Ani / Ani (Se) / Hayastan
    178, 148, Tabriz / Tabriz (Se) / Azerbaijan
    179, 175, Isfahan / Isfahan (Se) / Iran
    180, 176, Shiraz / Shiraz (Se) / Fars
    181, 180, Hormuz / Hormuz (Se) / Makran
    182, 178, Nishapur / Neyshapur (Se) / Nisapur (A) / Khorasan
    183, 177, Urgench / Gorganch (Se) / Khorezm
    184, 154, Damascus / Shaam (Se) / Damashq (A) / Damasco (I/S/P) / Damaskos (B) / Damaskus (G) / Damaszek (R) / Damas (F) / Ash-Shaam
    185, 147, Acre / Akko (Se) / Akka (A/P) / Saint-Jean-d’Acre (F) / Acre (E/S/P) / Giovanni d’Acri (I) / Akkon (G) / Akra (B) / Galilee
    186, 156, Tyre / Sur (Se /A) / Tyr (F/P) / Tyre (E) / Tyros (G) / Tiro (S/I/P) / Turos (B) / Lubnaan
    187, 155, Jerusalem / Al-Quds (Se/A) / Solyme (F) / Jerusalem (E/G) / Jerusalén (S) / Gerusalemme (I) / Ierousalím (B) / Jerozolima (R) / Jerusalém (P) / Eretz Yisrael
    188, 153, Ashkelon / Ashkelon (Se/E) / Ascalon (A/F) / Aschkelon (G) / Ascalón (S) / Ascalona (I) / Aszkelon (P) / Ascalăo (P) / Gaza

    Sub Saharan Africa
    189, 184, Koumbi Saleh / Koumbi Saleh (A) /
    190, 183, Timbuktu / Tinbuktu / Timbuktu (1300/A)
    191, 182, Kano / Dala
    192, 185, Dongola / Tungul / Nubia

    Georgia
    193, 170, Tskumi / Tskhumi / Tskhumi
    194, 168, Kutaisi / Kutatisi / Abhkazeti
    195, 169, Tbilisi / Tpilisi / Kartli

    Georgian Rebel
    196, 171, Derbent / Derbent / Azerbaycan

    Armenia
    197, 149, Edessa / Edessa / Mesopotamia
    198, 152, Antioch / Antakiya / Antakya (A) / Antiocheia

    Belgian Rebels
    199. 50, Gent / Gent / Vlaanderen

  17. #57

    Default Re: Help For Historically Accurate Settlement And Region Names Required

    Quote Originally Posted by Space_Ed View Post
    Ah right well it was on someone else's suggestion... erm that Polak guy. Yeah but it is in Hungarian because it is owned by the Hungarians.
    I am dead sure Hungarians have never called it Slzovákia until nowadays...

    Mod Leader, Mapper & Bohemian Researcher

  18. #58

    Default Re: Help For Historically Accurate Settlement And Region Names Required

    Resurrection is right

    Waradyn should be Nagyvárad.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradea

    Gyulafehéravár should be Gyulafehérvár.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alba_Iulia

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    Default Re: Help For Historically Accurate Settlement And Region Names Required

    Quote Originally Posted by Space_Ed View Post
    There u go.
    Cheers- but WHERE IS THE BYZANTINE BALKAN DANUBE FRONTIER!!! Seriously guys, don't let me down on this; I get a little overprotective over it.

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    Default Re: Help For Historically Accurate Settlement And Region Names Required

    Quote Originally Posted by Giorgios View Post
    Cheers- but WHERE IS THE BYZANTINE BALKAN DANUBE FRONTIER!!! Seriously guys, don't let me down on this; I get a little overprotective over it.
    Ok, let me tell you something about this because I'm Romanian and I have a passion for history.

    Do you remember the Wallachian region that had Bucharest as its capital? You can find it in vanilla, Stainless Steel and other major mods. Well, historically, the region (Wallachia) existed and had its southern border on the Danube, but Bucharest was only a poor village at best. Wallachia gained its independence in 1330, before that being a vassal to various surrending powers like Hungary, Cumans/Mongols, Bulgaria or the Byzantines. Combining this two arguments, the team of DotS probably thought better two split the region between its neighbours with larger settlements, thus moving the border north of the river Danube.

    That said, I agree that Danube should be a border! History tells us it has been a border from Roman times till nowadays; it's so much easier to defend than the plains north of it, especially when you may find there hordes of goths or huns or gepids or avars or bulgars or magyars or pechenegs or cumans or mongols...

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