Chasseurs à cheval - 1791 ordnance
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Chasseurs à cheval - 1793-1800
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Guides d'Egypte - 1798-1801
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Guides aux colonies -
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An VII (1796) : Aide de Camps - plumet et brassard
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You may already know them (first one for sure, already posted before)
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You know how the "bonnet d'ourse" was looking from behind now xD
Just can't wait to see them and play them, and I hope, give them more role than in reality xD
A small but interesting enough picture of Canadian militia, c1750
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Those plates come from "Historical Arms Serie n°18 : French soldier in colonial America" by René Chartrand
I think we could use 2 or 3 milicia units in North America :
- canadian milicia (mostly no uniform but a red cap, mostly act as light troops but with good melee attack and defence stats)
- Quebec militia / Montreal Milicia or City militia (uniform, mostly act as a standard milicia)
Not yet, I have to work on British mid-XVIIIth cavalry models first.
I've begin to search documents about the French navy.
I believe the term is feet, not foots
Some nice embroidery elements for Guard Mousquetaires:
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And a very beautiful thing:
Some more photos: http://www.bertrand-malvaux.fr/p/579...1740-1750.html
Hey, uh, I have a CTD issue with france after 1724ish, after blitzkrieging the crap out of Britain. Could it be caused by the early advent of the USA caused by the destruction of Britain?
"WE WILL SMITE THE INVADERS FROM OUR SKIES! Though they sweep over our lands like the sands of winter, never again will we bow before them; never again endure their oppression; never again endure their tyranny. We will strike without warning and without mercy, fighting as one hand, one heart, one soul. We will shatter their dreams and haunt their nightmares, drenching our ancestors' graves with their blood. And as our last breath tears at their lungs; as we rise again from the ruins of our cities...they will know: Helghan belongs to the Helghast." -Scholar Visari
Some link for mid-XVIIIth century infantry uniforms :
EL REGLAMENTO de 1757 EN FRANCIA, ( 1º Parte ), laminas de BOISSELIER
EL REGLAMENTO DE 1757 EN FRANCIA, ( 2º Parte ), laminas de BOISSELIER
EL REGLAMENTO DE 1757 EN FRANCIA, ( 3º Parte ), laminas de BOISSELIER
EL REGLAMENTO DE 1757 EN FRANCIA, ( 4º Parte ), laminas de BOISSELIER
I understand IS currently relies on the 'no_forts' mod to enhance game-play via AI effectiveness.
However, I've noticed that two very significant French regions in New France do not have forts in the early campaign and this is very, very inaccurate. In particular, Quebec (Quebec City) remains the oldest fortified city in North America to this day - and for a reason. Considering the French colonies in New France were severely underpopulated in North America when compared to the British colonies, the French strategy became one of 'building forts' to protect their provinces.
Even before the French strategy of building forts in New France, the French created two very significant fortresses: Quebec (City) and Louisberg (Acadia / Nova Scotia). The purpose of these forts were to defend the the St. Lawrence River regions from British invasions thereby protecting the French trade interests in New France.
Notably, Louisberg eventually fell without a fight as the French more or less abandoned the fort to the British. Nevertheless 'The Battle for Quebec' (1759) or 'The Battle of the Plans of Abraham' became a significant turning point in North American history. Although the 1759 battle was fought outside the city, this is arguably considered a tactical blunder by the French General Montcalm. Furthermore, the city had undergone a period of heavy bombardment from across the river. The British forces of course led by General Wolfe.
Finally, The Battle of Quebec (1775) was another attempt by an opposing force to capture the city and change the balance of power in the region. This time the Yankee revolutionaries attempted to capture the fortified city from the British. ... They failed, arguably because of the strong city defences. One can argue that if the Yankees captured Quebec, all of 'Canada' would eventually fall.
In all, my point here is that an early France relies heavily on the use of forts to protect its colonies in New France. Removing these severely alters the historical reality. I understand the Battle AI is not well equipped to attack forts - however the French colonies in New France are already under a severe 'handicap' with regards to low populations when compared to the British, so removing the forts makes the French situation in New France rather dire indeed...
Hello wangrin!
I must say you and the rest of the IS modding team have created remarkable units. Although my post seems to be about three years late, I was wondering if there are any plans to add the militia units for France in its North American colonies? Based on what I can see from the latest French unit roster you posted there appears to be a relative gap concerning unique French colonial units especially when compared to the British. In particular, I've read that the marines ("Compagnies Franches de la Marine") were an integral aspect of the French military particularly for the defence of Quebec and the rest of New France.
If it helps, I've come across this useful source for the military of New France according to the Government of Canada. In particular, this passage (quoted below) suggests there might be justification for adding an 'elite guard unit' for Quebec, possibly restricted to 2-4 max recruitment.
Also, this article from the same Government of Canada historical source, suggests there might be justification for the creation of a unique 'marine' unit for the Acadia (Nova Scotia) region for New France. The particular unit was called "Compagnies franches de la Marine in Acadia" and according to this historical source, as of 1702 it had a 'permissible' strength of 200 soldiers.The appointment of Louis de Buade, Count Frontenac, in 1672, resulted in the creation of a permanent corps of personal guards for the governor general. The energetic Count Frontenac used his guards as a kind of personal police and had them arrest several people, including the governor of Montreal, Nicolas Perrot. This gesture was thought excessive, and it led to Frontenac's recall in 1682. As a result of these abuses, it was specified that the only function of the Governor General's Guard was to ensure his personal safety.
From 1672 until the end of the French Regime, the guard consisted officially of "a company of 20 mounted men-at-arms, known as carabineers," including a captain, a lieutenant and a cornet. Reality, however, was often quite different. First, the men were on foot. Second, since their wages were included in the stipend allowed the governor general, they could become fictional at times, depending on his financial circumstances. By the late seventeenth century, governors general usually limited their guard to two or three men, adding sufficient reinforcements on holidays and ceremonial occasions to bring it up to full strength. Early in the eighteenth century, the Marquis de Vaudreuil had only two men in his retinue, while the wealthy Marquis de La Jonquière disembarked at the town of Quebec on August 4, 1749 with much pomp and circumstance, preceded by his entire company.
Little is known about the clothing and armaments of this guard. However, it appears that Count Frontenac's guards wore cassocks in 1673, as did those of the Marquis de Vaudreuil (1703-25), although there is no known description of their clothing. The Marquis de La Jonquière's guards were dressed upon their arrival at Quebec in 1749 in "green costumes, their muskets on their shoulders." This was obviously the Marquis' own livery, and seems to indicate that guards, after 1672, wore the colours and personal coats of arms of their masters, as was the custom in France.
Finally, I've been reading through that government of Canada source I've quoted in this post, and I noticed a passage which justifies my argument for enabling forts in particular for New France. Here is the quote:
I hope this helps!The Iroquois were not the only enemies whom the French officers arriving during the 1680s would have to face. It was a decade during which the signs of imminent conflict between England and France were increasing. How could a British invasion be repulsed when the colony was spread out over such a wide area and defended by so few men? This was the critical question to which an answer had to be found.
From a defensive point of view, good fortifications remained the most important measure. However, when they existed at all in the colony, they were in a deplorable condition. It was decided therefore to restore Fort Frontenac and surround Montreal with a palisade, since these two places were most vulnerable to attack by the Iroquois, the allies of the English. Quebec had the advantage of being a natural fortress, but it still had no surrounding wall, only a few batteries, and a paltry fort, Château Saint-Louis, which doubled as the residence of the governor general. Although the court at Versailles believed at first that Quebec was safe from attack by sea, this view was revised in 1690, and the town was provided with surrounding fortifications consisting of 16 redoubts connected by a palisade. These were the first of numerous defensive works to enclose the town within walls.
Source: CHAPTER 5: The Compagnies Franches de la Marine of Canada | The Strategic Defence Of Canada
* I am away from my ETW and IS files at the moment (currently working in a lab), however I plan to edit the necessary startpos campaign file to give Quebec and Acadia 1st level fortifications. If anyone's curious with how this turns out, just let me know.
** Note: I play IS with the 'no_forts' mod disabled, therefore enabling forts.
"Compagnie Franche de la Marine" come from France, as most of true military units in Americas up untill the Seven Years' War".
The reason was the very limited manpower available.
So, contrary to English colonies, far more populated, France cannot recruit regular units in North America, only some militia.
Moreover, we have to take into account our recruitment system : we use a ratio of 1/2 between the maximum historical number of each unit type and units in game.
For example, the maximum number of Swiss line infantry regiment was about 10 regiments during the Seven Years' War, so, France will be able to recruit only 5 "Swiss line infantry" units in game.
It become even more difficult when we speak about milicia, because they were not organized in regiments.
So, I have to find data about the number of militiamen and their origin (per regions) to calculate an equivalent of regiments. Solution being to eventually decrease the number of men in unit but increase the number of units.
But we are far from working on North America for France.
About fort, I agree that they should be back, even despite IA behaviour.
All the problem is to modify the startpos.
I suppose that, using the "hybrid startpos" process, it is possible to add fort, but I fear instabilities ingame.
Person of Interest for scholar,
Chevalier de Saint-Georges
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MulattoLouis XVIPalais RoyalFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Joseph Bologne, Chevalier de Saint-Georges(French: [sɛ̃.ʒɔʁʒ]; also Saint-George and Joseph Boulogne; December 25, 1745 – June 10, 1799)[1] was a champion fencer, a virtuoso violinist and conductor of the leading symphony orchestra in Paris. Born inGuadeloupe, he was the son of George Bologne de Saint-Georges, a wealthy planter, and Nanon, his African slave.[2] During the French Revolution, Saint-Georges was colonel of the 'Légion St.-Georges,'[3] the first all-black regiment in Europe, fighting on the side of the Republic. Today the Chevalier de Saint-Georges is best remembered as the first classical composer of African ancestry.
Joseph Bologne, Chevalier de Saint-Georges Saint-Georges by Mather Brown, 1787. Born December 25, 1745
Baillif, Basse-Terre, GuadeloupeDied June 10, 1799 (aged 53)
Paris, France
Youth and education
3D reconstitution : Paris during the 18th century around the Grand Châtelet
Great video
There is a exhibition in Milan called La Maison du Roy 1690 - 1792. Photos from exhibition and other pictures here:
https://www.facebook.com/LaMaisonDuR...=page_internal
I've found a French scientist that may prove useful. Louis-Jean-Marie Daubenton (1716 - 1800) was a French naturalist and contributor to the Encyclopédie ou Dictionnaire raisonné des sciences, des arts et des métiers. He introduced the merino sheep into France.
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~Royaume de France~
Roi: Louis XIV (1638 - 1715)
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Gouvernement
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Regions held by France in the start year 1701
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Diplomatic relations
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Public opinion towards other nations
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Military commanders
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Naval commanders
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Envoys
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Gentlemen
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Priests
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