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  1. #61

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    Nice units KK, you really showed that the more heavier equipped Dalians are supplied by the Dwarves with their armour!

  2. #62

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    Really nice, especially the Earls od Dale!!!



  3. #63

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    AWE SOME!!! New standart generated on Rusichtw normal maped models ,extra quality!
    Also Dale faction unit rooster makes once more this mod totaly original, like reincarnation or TW itself
    LUCK!

  4. #64

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean=A=Luc View Post


    I must admit I'm unfamiliar with some of the terms in the unit names:

    Gadraughts
    - I'm guessing it's an irl term related to a type of soldier but who knows.

    Athala (Rangers) - No idea. If it's a ME word I've never heard of it. Sounds nice though.

    Aihwothiuda (Horseguards) -

    I'd be grateful if someone could shed some light on these, just curious.


    Great looking units but I too have no idea on some of these terms.

    I too would be grateful if someone could shed some light on these.

  5. #65

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poosticks7 View Post
    Great looking units but I too have no idea on some of these terms.

    I too would be grateful if someone could shed some light on these.
    I don't get the meaning of most of these names, but Aihwothiuda sounded gothic for me, so I did some research and found out, that "aih" means horse in gothic and "thiuda" something like people (many possible meanings) so I guess I was on the right way...

    If I'm right I would think these units have someting to do with Rhovanion, because Tolkien used gothic names for the Rhovanion kings.

    By the way I love these new units! Can't wait to try them out!

    EDIT: Oh, I just found out that "gadraugth" means "soldier" in gothic, so that confirms it - and the assumed connection to Rhovanion.
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    Damn...

  7. #67

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes Trismegistos View Post
    I don't get the meaning of most of these names, but Aihwothiuda sounded gothic for me, so I did some research and found out, that "aih" means horse in gothic and "thiuda" something like people (many possible meanings) so I guess I was on the right way...

    If I'm right I would think these units have someting to do with Rhovanion, because Tolkien used gothic names for the Rhovanion kings.

    EDIT: Oh, I just found out that "gadraugth" means "soldier" in gothic, so that confirms it - and the assumed connection to Rhovanion.
    Yeah, some "germanic"/northmen flavor for Dale, makes sense. I bet the word athala has the same or similar origin. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if it meant forest. Thanks.

    EDIT: Found this in regard to Athala. Various other sites say the same so that's that I guess.
    Last edited by Jean=A=Luc; September 29, 2009 at 06:34 AM.

  8. #68

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    Indeed!

    Maybe I should have looked more thorougly before posting for the first time, but "athala" means something like "noble" or "of noble origin". Maybe like the Eriador rangers survived the collapse of Arnor some rangers survived in the wilderness when the realm of Rhovanion ended?
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  9. #69

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    Something tells me Dale Swordmasters should be called Dale Zweihanders.

  10. #70

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    Well that all makes sense, Thanks.

    Your search-fu is much better than mine (I got distracted.)

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    Sweet! Wow, absolutely stunning. Great frigging work KK.

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    Though I'm also wondering about the Bardng Hird unit. From what I could find Hird is:
    Maybe a kind of "Guardian" (like "Bard's Guards") in this context? Or maybe those soldiers are simply shepherds by occupation but that seems unlikely.

    As for Barding my first reaction was to tie it with Bard the Bowman but that would be Bardian, no? The only other meaning I came up is:

    So if barding can refer to armour maybe they're Armoured Guards/"Shepherds"? Or something...
    Last edited by Jean=A=Luc; September 29, 2009 at 06:53 AM.

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    Hird is the norse word for chosen men. The anglo-saxon kings of England and the norse kings of norway would have called their bodyguards "hird-men." In this case Barding refers to Bard. Another reading would be Bardian Hird. You may be more familiar with the term huscarls or housecarls (which is typically assoicated with the anglo-saxons but they used hird as well). I guess it pays off to research and work on a 1066 mod after all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beregond View Post
    so might be at least another riddle-pic?
    All in good time. all in good time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DisgruntledGoat View Post
    I guess it pays off to research and work on a 1066 mod after all.
    Yeah, keep dreaming.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Thanks.

    Heh, came right up on Wiki now that I knew what I was looking for.

  15. #75

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisgruntledGoat View Post
    You may be more familiar with the term huscarls or housecarls (which is typically assoicated with the anglo-saxons but they used hird as well).
    Yes, the housecarls were the English professional core of warriors as opposed the the Fyrd or peasant militia that made up the rest of the army pre 1066. I was not aware that the word 'Hird' was interchangeable.

    If we're going along the Anglo-Saxon/Scandinavian route shouldn't the Earls be renamed 'Ealdormen' or 'Thegns'?

  16. #76

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    I believe it was more a pick and choose thing. Rather than a strict guide line.

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    One word - AWESOME!!!



    Only I think, that Earl's helmets are a bit too eastern!
    I love those Rangers!

  18. #78

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    Great as always!

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    in some fantasy books Hird is the Dwarven phalanx . I'm not sure about the spelling, read in Russian


    EDIT: just have read Kikka's post and indeed, would archers be able to fire arrows using mittens? dunno
    Last edited by Beregond; September 29, 2009 at 08:50 AM.

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    They are great

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