Unit descriptions

[tone]

In our bid to get this mod finished asap, it'd be great to get some more help with unit description writing. Here is a sample of some units still needing descriptions. If anyone wants to have a go and try and provide one or more descriptions, please go for it.

Obviously any good descriptions will make it into the final mod, and anyone providing some quality descriptions will have the opportunity to join the team:


Ok here are some units requiring descriptions - anyone can have a go at doing descriptions for these. If anyone wants any further details about weapons or whatever, just post here.

1) Early libyan spearmen:



2) Late Libyan spearmen:


3) Iberian skirmishers:


4) Iberian elite scutarii:


5) Gallaeci elite infantry:

[knight of virtue and valor]

oh I wish I knew more about Carthaginian armies! but I will probably try could you please give me some details about when they are available, what their cost is, where their AOR is, and maybe some attributes like if they are ap or have excellent moral?

[tone]

Early libyans:
Solid infantry, good morale, disciplined, defence total 27, cost 580

Late libyans (Hannibal's veterans - available early as part of Hannibal's starting army in Italy):
Solid, excellent morale, disciplined, defence total 32, cost 666

Iberian skirmishers:
Weak in melee, lowish morale, fast, can hide, defence total 13, cost 271

Elite scutarii:
Good infantry - throw armour piercing soliferum then attack with falcata, good morale, defence total 27, cost 711

Gallaeci elite infantry:
Elite infantry - throw armour piercing soliferum then attack with falcata, excellent morale, defence total 31, cost 1060




Are there any cultures you know more about?

[knight of virtue and valor]

alright, just let me reach into my miniature library of history books and see if I can give you something. thanks.

[tone]

You may find this of use for the Gallaeci units:
http://www4.uwm.edu/celtic/ekeltoi/v...tela_6_10.html
http://www4.uwm.edu/celtic/ekeltoi/v...cobas_6_1.html
http://www4.uwm.edu/celtic/ekeltoi/v...uibal_6_3.html
http://www4.uwm.edu/celtic/ekeltoi/v...erro_6_20.html

[knight of virtue and valor]

wow, those are good freaking links. reading...

[Gaius Omarius]

These Spearmen can't form a Phalanx in RS2, right?

Also, I'm disappointed that they're no longer Liby-Phoenician, being from Lebanon myself, ancient homeland of the Phoenicians

[Scarrus]

Ok. I'm writing a historical description for the Lybian Spearmen(early and late)

[Theoroshia]

I've got a unit description done.

T-Rex Hoplite



Before men, there were giant lizards. And now that they're back, they're back with a vengeance.

[Gaius Omarius]

I've got a unit description done.

T-Rex Hoplite



Before men, there were giant lizards. And now that they're back, they're back with a vengeance.

Haha.

And their starting province is China.

And you get just enough time to form some semblance of an empire before it's savagely ripped apart by endless hordes of merciless giant lizards streaming in from the East.

[Scarrus]

And you get just enough time to form some semblance of an empire before it's savagely ripped apart by endless hordes of merciless giant lizards streaming in from the East.

LOL! Nice sentence!
REP+

[swhunter]

Haha.

And their starting province is China.

And you get just enough time to form some semblance of an empire before it's savagely ripped apart by endless hordes of merciless giant lizards streaming in from the East.

Nuts!
They guessed the mystery faction!
This hoplite should have greaves, and a shield since he has small hands.

[tone]

Ok. I'm writing a historical description for the Lybian Spearmen(early and late)

Excellent. Thanks.

@Gaius Omarius - I'll find the reference that explains why we're not calling them that.

[Timefool]

Are these all the units you have left to give the info on? If not, can you give a basic list of the others and if anyone wants to help with them then give more info on that particular unit?

[tone]

Here we go, this is most of them, excluding the above (although one or two of these are being snapped up by our description writing team every day):

Celtic heavy swordsmen
Samues swordsmen (Samues is a celtic tribe near Massalia, and form part of the free Greek unit roster for Massalia)
Kushan cataphract
Chorasmian heavy cavalry
Saka elite cataphract
Iberian cataphract (Caucasian iberia)
Arabian archer
Mardian horse archer
Sarmatian Levy Spearmen
Saka Horse Archers
Alan Horse Archers
Siracae Noble Archers
Saka Noble Cavalry
Aorsi Noble Cavalry
Cantabrian Bipenni Axeman
Arevaci Spearman
Arevaci Medium Cavalry
Arevaci Heavy Cavalry
Lusitanian Elite Scutarii
Falarica Infantry
Lusitanian Elite Caetrati
Iberian Light Cavalry
Lusitanian Light Cavalry
Iberian Scutarii Cavalry
Aquitani Light Horsemen
Iberian Medium Cavalry
Gallaeci Noble Cavalry
Iberian Heavy Cavalry
Gallaeci Armored General
Boiotian epilektoi hoplite
Boiotian ekdromoi hoplite
Pergamon Ekdromoi Hoplite
Lucani Infantry
Libyphoenician cavalry

[Gaius Omarius]

LOL! Nice sentence!
REP+

Thanks
(though I'd be even more grateful if the rep actually filterred through, but never mind )

@Gaius Omarius - I'll find the reference that explains why we're not calling them that.

That'd be an interesting read, if you do find it! I'm not very knowledgable in this particular area (Carthage etc).

[RJA]

I'm sorry if this proposal offends anyone, but maybe you could use some of the unit descriptions from EB. That is if they are using the same unit. Or use parts of them as an inspiration. With the consent of the EB team ofcourse. That might save you some work.

RJA

[tone]

From Cannae The experience of Battle in the Second Punic War by Gregory Daly, p91.

In 218, according to Polybius, Hannibal had a force of 450 Liby-Phoenician and Libyan cavalry stationed in Spain (Poly 3:33-45). Livy believes taht the force was exclusively Liby-Phoenician (Liv 21:22). There is no record of Liby-Phoenicians having served under Hannibal in his Italian campaign, but considering the fact that so many Liby-Phoenician cavalry were introducd to Spain that year, it seems likely that Hannibal's own expeditionary force included some Liby-Phoenicians.
.....
Although certain modern writers believe the African line infantry to have been either Liby-Phoenician or a combination of Libyans and Liby-Phoenicians (Connolly, Healy, Warry), there is no evidence that the Liby-Phoenicians ever served as infantry in Carthaginian armies.

There's more here about Polybius referring to the native African troops as Libyans: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=q...age&q=&f=false

Basically the distinction being made is that there were Liby-Phoenician cavalry but not infantry (who were Libyans).

[Gaius Omarius]

From Cannae The experience of Battle in the Second Punic War by Gregory Daly, p91.

There's more here about Polybius referring to the native African troops as Libyans: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=q...age&q=&f=false

Basically the distinction being made is that there were Liby-Phoenician cavalry but not infantry (who were Libyans).

Fair enough, and thanks for the reference

At first glance the concept of a mixture of Liby-Phoenicians and Libyans seemed ludicrous (what's that, then, 3/4 Libyan, 1/4 Phoenician armed forces? Maybe they also mixed Liby-Liby-Phoenicians with Gallo-Hispano-Libyan contingents?), but reading on a bit in the source clears that up

[rory o'kane]

These Spearmen can't form a Phalanx in RS2, right?

Also, I'm disappointed that they're no longer Liby-Phoenician, being from Lebanon myself, ancient homeland of the Phoenicians

you are aware that the "Liby" bit refers to Libya, not Lebannon, right?