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    Default Why invade Iraq

    I started thinking about this...what was the point of invasion? Maybe it was just a test...
    1. Test what the other arab nations would do
    2. Test how the islamistic world would react
    3. Test if democracy would work in a nation that has never been a democracy
    4. Test how the rest of the world would react

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perkele
    I started thinking about this...what was the point of invasion? Maybe it was just a test...
    1. Test what the other arab nations would do
    2. Test how the islamistic world would react
    3. Test if democracy would work in a nation that has never been a democracy
    4. Test how the rest of the world would react
    Nah, no testing! Just oil! :laughing:
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    "You kiddin' me? Man, I just want that oil..*cough*oil*cough*"
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    Please keep this civil & constructive; or this thread will be imediately closed.

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    EDIT-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perkele
    I started thinking about this...what was the point of invasion? Maybe it was just a test...
    1. Test what the other arab nations would do
    2. Test how the islamistic world would react
    3. Test if democracy would work in a nation that has never been a democracy
    4. Test how the rest of the world would react
    1) Get uncooperative? Fail.
    2) Get really annoyed along with the rest of the world. Fail.
    3) Actually, not too badly, except for the insurgents and the attacks and the attempted assassinations. O wait, that is quite bad. Scraped a pass?
    4) See 2. Fail.

    I'm sorry, Mr. Bush, but it seems you have an overal fail on your "Invasion Test"; we are going to have to ask you to relinquish your power now.

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    I just had this silly idea, that invasion of Iraq was just a test whetever the same could be done to bring democracy everywhere.

    Not that I believe in that...

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    Why make another topic on this?

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    Actually, I was only partially joking; don't be offended. It seems to have been less about democracy (why hasn't he persuaded his Saudi friends to head that way?) than about stability in the region and powerful foes. Of course, he has in fact reduced the stability and given one of his enemies a lot more power. Not the best thing to do.

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    Not really just oil, but general economics and power.
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    I do not think it was just the oil - It was a combination of many things:

    1. To draw attention away from the Israelis stealing land from the Palestinians, manipulating and killing Palestinians without the world doing anything. Everybody was and is so bussy with Irac.
    Think abaut it, the US government is saturated with Jews (Rumsfeld, Volkowitz etc.). The Jews are the only ones that had to gain from this conflict.
    2. The only way Bush could become a real "leader", before 9/11 he was mediocer at best and would not have been re-elected; this was his chance. He still has not mutch to say and even today in his speaches citates "9/11" around 4 to 5 times. The guy is a liar and a looser.
    3. Bush's private vendetta against Sadam ( Sadam tried to kill his father and Bush Sen. did not finish the first Gulf War).

    4. The Oil, see the film "Fahreheit 9/11".

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    If it's the oil then why are oil prices at all time high, surely it would have been much easier and much more profitable to just let Saddam sell his oil...

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    Fridericus: 1. It failed miserably. And anyway, am I not right in thinking that the Israelis are withdrawing now? So it is pointless. The Saudis and the companies these people were beholden to, especially Halliburton, gained a lot more than the Jews really.
    2. Well we knew that; its a Thatcher tactic. He can't even use new underhand tricks!
    3. Not really a major matter. Who cares abvout the history, Bush is more about money than vendettas.
    4. Only a sideline concern. Stability and who has power in the Mid-East is far more important than the oil. Of course he's wrecked stability but he has altered the power balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perkele
    If it's the oil then why are oil prices at all time high, surely it would have been much easier and much more profitable to just let Saddam sell his oil...
    If the oil is in a country that is contolled by a government favourable to America, it will give the US higher priority for it's stocks. That's why he did it. He needed a safe oil supply. I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that the Arab countries have temporarily stopped selling to the US before?
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    Valentin, I assume you are Israeli. Well, lets see; what did you do exactly to earn Israel? To earn the right to do to others what they have done to you? Hmm. You have not just blown up the leaders but civilians inrefuge camps, children and aid workers have been shot; sounds very like terrorist leaders only... How exactly would you have destroyed them without a nation, without an army? You couldn't; now, you (the nation) are just taking revenge for your persecution. Sounds very sensible; it actually defeats the whole argument.

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    Its their fault , on the first day of our independence the whole Muslim world attacked us but wee one. Wee could have taken Egypt and Yarden but wee settled with Israel.
    It was a heroic victory, they’re just sour loosers.
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    You were GIVEN land by the British. be grateful for what you got, rather than puching for more. You survived by relying heavily on the US. Never forget that. Israel owes the Western world bid time, yet all she gives us is strife...

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    Valentin the II you have been warned. If you flame and try to hyjack this thread you will be banned.

    Squeakus Maximus leave him alone, dont reply to flames.

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