do arabs really look like average white people( europeans)

[Robertclive]

lol black truth

[DekuTrash]

Forever to be remembered in the annals of TWC

Seriously, that should go in the Wiki. The chaps of TWC falling in line with one another for a common cause.

[Kamos]

Ugh no the quicker that is dead and buried the better.

[DekuTrash]

Forum Wars August 09'

[Pallantides]

Forum Wars August 09'

We must take the fight to them

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[DekuTrash]

+rep

Oh well, if it dies it dies.
If they come back or someone here creates a new thread we will deal with it.
Either way it will go down in TWC history.

(Hope it tapers off)

[Dunecat]

what about Saudi Arabia and Iraq and the countries towards India and Africa. My dad went to kuwait and he said they look like mexicans.

Mexicans aren't white? Even half-white? I mean there's so much spanish blood in that country isn't there?

WTF?

[Kamos]

Honestly I'm not sure what Mexicans are anymore.

We must take the fight to them

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Oh okay I'll give you props on that one .

[DekuTrash]

Mexicans aren't white? Even half-white? I mean there's so much spanish blood in that country isn't there?

WTF?

In my family there is.

I think there's still alot of people there with a majority indegenous backround.

[Aru]

We must take the fight to them

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hahaha, I just now noticed that whole thing going on
I always miss the best things

[DekuTrash]

You missed a great event in this sites history!

[Phier]

When you are doing skull measurements for surgeries on Arab's you use the Caucasian standards.

Genetically I don't know and I'm to lazy to look it up right now.

[Dr. Croccer]

Any particular reason you chose the slander physical anthropology as "pseudo-science"?

I was mainly refering to the old racialists and social Darwinists, like de Gobineau, which were indeed pseudo-scientists. They based racial superiority on the basis of, say, the shape of the skull, but often misleading the facts as well. For example, in many British racial books, Irishmen were portrayed as almost ape-like creatures, related to the Negroe, and inferior to the Anglo-Saxon.

[Armfelt]

Arabs are Semetic peoples, so they aren't quite the same as Euros. But they are pretty close I guess, compared to other groups.

Jews are semitic too, and most of them are white.

I don't really see that much difference between Middle-Eastern people and Europeans, besides pigmentation and the amount of body hair

[dogukan]

Jews are semitic too, and most of them are white.

I don't really see that much difference between Middle-Eastern people and Europeans, besides pigmentation and the amount of body hair

Jews are white because those Jews have Caucasian origins. I mean from Caucus, the Askhenazi Jews. I know this is an argueble thing but the original Jews are semitic...Arabic looking. The white Jews are those who were converted later. Check out the Khazar state for instancewhich conerted to Judaism long time ago in Caucus.

[Daovonnaex]

I was mainly refering to the old racialists and social Darwinists, like de Gobineau, which were indeed pseudo-scientists. They based racial superiority on the basis of, say, the shape of the skull, but often misleading the facts as well. For example, in many British racial books, Irishmen were portrayed as almost ape-like creatures, related to the Negroe, and inferior to the Anglo-Saxon.

de Gobineau's work was an early attempt at racial demography and was infused with spiritual notions of race. I wouldn't even regard it as any kind of science. Samuel George Morton published what was perhaps the first work of racial demography in 1849, which attempted to describe what he thought were the various races by their traits. Gradually the field professionalized, refined its classifications, began stripping subjective speculations of supremacy, and developed a refined body based on phenetics (or taximetrics). In classical phenetic racial demography, by the way, the Irish are considered part of the Nordic subrace of Caucasoids (or Europids). Modern research based on cladistics (a form of population genetics) has shown that the Irish and English are very closely related, and thus this judgment was basically correct.

http://racialreality.110mb.com/subraces.html

Here you can see the masterwork of the field, Carleton S. Coon's 1939 work Races of Europe, which attempts to classify all caucasoid subraces. Bear in mind that this work was conducted before the discovery of DNA, and while physical anthropology is still relevant today for the study of human populations it has mostly been supplanted by research rooted in population genetics.

Mexicans aren't white? Even half-white? I mean there's so much spanish blood in that country isn't there?

WTF?

Honestly I'm not sure what Mexicans are anymore.

In my family there is.

I think there's still alot of people there with a majority indegenous backround.

Most of the population of Mexico is mestizo, the Spanish term for a white-Indian hybrid. If I recall correctly the average mestizo in Mexico is about 60% Indian and 40% European, though this varies by region. In the northern border states the people (once you exclude central Mexican drifters who are just there to hop the border) are 55% European. Mexico also has about 10m whites and a substantial Indian population (roughly one third of the country) which is regionally concentrated in the south of the country.

[DekuTrash]

A startling thing that I have noticed though is that those with indigenous roots get treated poorly there.

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[Daovonnaex]

A startling thing that I have noticed though is that those with indigenous roots get treated poorly there.

It's hardly startling. There is no culture of anti-racism in Latin America (except of course when it comes to us "Anglos" guarding our borders), and thus people discriminate. In most Western societies expressing racism is likely to result in social disapproval and is further considered a marker of low status, thus people suppress any racist sentiments they may have. Schools and media further indoctrinate people with anti-racist messages from birth. In Latin America people are very frank about race, though race there is considered a continuum unlike here, to the point where self-made rich will say things like, "When I used to be brown..." about themselves.

[DekuTrash]

"When I used to be brown..." about themselves.

Never heard that one around. I'll ask my pops

[Daovonnaex]

Never heard that one around. I'll ask my pops

I haven't heard it in Mexico either, but it's very common in Brazil (sometimes black is said instead of brown). Even if it is unused in Mexico it does not change that Latin Americans conceive of race as a continuum, whereas traditionally Americans and most other whites look at it in a more rigid category. Barack Obama here is black, whereas in Latin America he would generally be called mulatto.