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    Default [HoI3] Heart of Iron III - discussion

    Since Heart of Iron III is already out (in US), I think it is time to create a thread for it.

    So, feel free to dicuss your experience of this new Paradox game.
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    I've started a game as Denmark to get a handle on the interface and such, and to try out a government in exile when the time comes. Looking at the paradox forums, the concensus seems to be that it is pretty typical of a Paradox release, which is to say, it has potential as long as some of the more glaring bugs are fixed. The bug i've heard of the most is regarding consumer goods. I guess the demand for them is way too high when you mobilize for war (?), making it hard for some of the larger countries like the USSR.

    I'll have to continue my Denmark game to see how things go.

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    This game is SLOOOOWWWW even on my machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanaric View Post
    This game is SLOOOOWWWW even on my machine.
    its fast on my computer.

    The only problem i have found so far is bad research(by paradox I mean). Why the hell does Sydney HQ get supplied from Canberra? come on Canberra was only a small city back then (right now it has over 300, 000 population small right?). Also Stalingrad is way off. The list continues
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    Stalingrad is still way off after patch??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanaric View Post
    This game is SLOOOOWWWW even on my machine.
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    I see that aircrafts still take a huge amount of mirco-management. Looks like I'll pass on this game


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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Stalingrad is still way off after patch??
    havn't checked after the patch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanaric View Post
    This game is SLOOOOWWWW even on my machine.
    How long does it take for a month to go by in the 39 scenario? I keep hearing people saying it's slow on the Paradox forums but from what I'm gathering it's playing at the same speed for everyone else.

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    I'm playing on max speed and even then it's pretty slow. The map is fugly, and there are many strange things like river Sava flowing from Austria across the whole balkans and falling into the Ionian sea in Albania, some Canadian towns ending up in the USA, Stalingrad being way off, and so on... I guess I will retry it in Janury or so when some patches and major mods will have been released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Edward III View Post
    Slow, on that beast?
    im pretty sure its their coding and not the rig's of gamers.


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    No doubt.
    According to the Theory of War, which teaches that the best way to avoid the inconvenience of war is to pursue it away from your own country, it is more sensible for us to fight our notorious enemy in his own realm, with the joint power of our allies, than it is to wait for him at our own doors.

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    mmmm well i played HOI2 and really enjoyed it, i expected from a new game to be basically a clone with better graphics, AI and more options. Instead they have changed a lot of the game mechanics, so i'm still trying to learn how to play. I don't have so much time so I've only spended an hour or so playing with my "Italian Empire", it's quite fun once you learn how to use the command structure, the research etc. But you really have to read the manual for this game...

    The problem is that there are a few bugs, the game is a bit slow, and now it's a bit too open-ended for my tastes, i liked HOI2 events.
    For example I have the USA as a member of the allies in mid 1936...

    However once properly patched (and maybe with a few mods to make better sprites) this game can really become a good one.
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    I think the game is great. There's no game like it on the market in comparison. It's only going to get better.

    I just can't stand all the petty complaints the game is getting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwock View Post
    I think the game is great. There's no game like it on the market in comparison. It's only going to get better.

    I just can't stand all the petty complaints the game is getting.
    The most persistent complaint seems to be about the CG bug, and that one is quite justified and not petty at all.
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    I am a complete newbie to HoI (I moved over from EU3 when HoI 3 released) and I have to say, even after the tutorial I haven't the foggiest of whats going on lol. I'm just running game after game and causing whichever country I play to fall apart in my quest to learn what everything does! It'll take a while for me to learn this one, far more complex than EU3 could ever hope to be...

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    Na no, HoI3 is less complex than EUIII.

    Basically, you only need to learn how to command and organize your army; you don't need to learn how to command navy and air force because it is very straight forward.

    For any newbie of HoI series I would suggest playing Canada as your first run; the reason is obviously - you can affect battlefield yet your enemy would not able to attack you. Canada is pretty much the best junior partner in Allies.
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    Cameron is midway between Black Rage and .. European Union ..

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    My ability to absorb gaming knowledge must've diminished since I started playing EU3 then lol, I'd learned EU3 after one (pretty shakey) England game. HoI3 is proving to be more of a challenge to decipher for me...

    But I'll try Canada next time, thanks for the advice!

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    The new interface was unexpected and to be frank a bit pointless.
    And I do not like the new research feature.
    I used to love picking inventors, generals, manufacturers to handle various research.

    Anyway I picked a game as Sweden and naturally the first thing you have to do in order to have any fun is to lower your neutrality so you will be allowed to have a war.
    After 20 minutes I managed to find how to do that through intel.
    Anyone know how you can speed it up a bit ? at this rate the game will be over before it reach 0.

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    I played the demo....it looks much more complex than HOI2...and I liked it actually. Though I didn play long, so I have no idea about the bugs. Even if there are bugs, game has a great potential.

    Though ther eis something I wish to know...are the tech teams gone?
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