The Hobbit Trilogy 2012-2014

**Beorn** · July 31, 2009, 03:29 AM

Originally Posted by Warmaster Tibs

You hear that mom! Some random guy on the internet, possibly a rapist, said im a genius!

Thank you, I feel better now.

That's over the borders of joking, it's a personnal offence. Another person would have reported it

**jản** · July 31, 2009, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by Jools_Jops

a good example of a book to movie that went bad was Dune.

arguably a brilliant novel (if you like sci-fi and you ignore the sequels where frank herbert went insane) but the movie adaptation did badly because the fans of the Dune novel were all like "ey man, whats all dis [bleep] u chattin?" and the movie going public who never read the book were all like "what in the hell is going on????".

are you kiddin. what dune movie do you talk about. i know
there is a quite new movie version but there is thews old very
awesome version from david lynch from the 80s which was absolutley
amazing. okay, filmwise but you can't say that this movie went bad.

**Warmaster Tibs** · July 31, 2009, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by Beorn of Carrock

That's over the borders of joking, it's a personnal offence. Another person would have reported it

...I thought I was teh funnyz...

Ill be good and edit it...

**B5C** · July 31, 2009, 10:22 AM

Looks like the Hobbit could be delayed even more.

Tolkien Enterprises are releasing cave trolls. Sorry I meant lawyers.

'The Hobbit' Threatened By Tolkien Lawsuit

Just when you thought it was safe to go back to Middle Earth, New Line Cinema and MGM face another lawsuit that could jeopardize production on "The Hobbit." The Guardian reports that J.R.R. Tolkien's heirs are suing the filmmakers for $220 million dollars in unpaid profits from the film trilogy, and trying to terminate further film rights to Tolkien's work due to breach of contract.

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/07/17...lkien-lawsuit/

**underxground** · July 31, 2009, 01:07 PM

Good. New line and Mgm and Time Warner are all minions of the dark lord.
If they didnt pay the Tolkien family what they were owed then they shouldnt be able to make any more movies. They made billions off of his work, they can pay his family what they are due.
Remember that this is all Tolkiens world, and never side with the greedy corporations.

**bilwit** · July 31, 2009, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Jools_Jops

a good example of a book to movie that went bad was Dune.

arguably a brilliant novel (if you like sci-fi and you ignore the sequels where frank herbert went insane) but the movie adaptation did badly because the fans of the Dune novel were all like "ey man, whats all dis [bleep] u chattin?" and the movie going public who never read the book were all like "what in the hell is going on????".

also it came out after star wars and was hyped as "the next star wars". not a smart move in hindsight.

Hm I thought the newer versions of Dune and Dune Messiah/Children of Dune movies by Scifi were pretty good except for the low budget production. I just thought they left the real story untold by not coming full circle and making an adaption of the fourth book, God Emperor. I agree with your assessment of the actual book series though, everything after God Emperor seemed excessive and just

. Even God Emperor was a stretch but at least it explains what the golden path is, why Leto merges with the baby worm things, etc.

**Louis Lux** · July 31, 2009, 01:31 PM

David Lynch's Dune is widely considered a failure, IMO it's not that bad but it strays too much from the book, which is a great novel. On the other hand I find the Dune tv series very captivating. Do you guys think a Silmarillion tv series could work?

**A1_Unit** · July 31, 2009, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by underxground

Good. New line and Mgm and Time Warner are all minions of the dark lord.
If they didnt pay the Tolkien family what they were owed then they shouldnt be able to make any more movies. They made billions off of his work, they can pay his family what they are due.
Remember that this is all Tolkiens world, and never side with the greedy corporations.

I'm not siding with the corporations but will the family really get all the money?

Come on...

**underxground** · July 31, 2009, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by A1_Unit

I'm not siding with the corporations but will the family really get all the money?

Come on...

Good to know. I agree that the whole thing is as shady as mirkwood .. but the family should get as much money as they can.
As a poor college student I can only afford to build my tolkien collection twenty five cents to a dollar at a time. Thrift stores and used book stores are my favorite. Used book stores charge half of cover price .. the books originally sold for fifty cents you get them for a quarter. I have about six different paperback editions of each of the four ring books .. two of silmariliion and the nice new hardback of the Children of Hurin ..... so they arent making any money off of me. The poor guys could use some bucks ... especially if it allows them to find some more unfinished tales...

**Phalanx300** · July 31, 2009, 01:55 PM

The movies really have potential and if they are like The Lord of The Rings it really be a movie worth going for the Cinima for.

**A1_Unit** · July 31, 2009, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by underxground

Good to know. I agree that the whole thing is as shady as mirkwood .. but the family should get as much money as they can.
As a poor college student I can only afford to build my tolkien collection twenty five cents to a dollar at a time. Thrift stores and used book stores are my favorite. Used book stores charge half of cover price .. the books originally sold for fifty cents you get them for a quarter. I have about six different paperback editions of each of the four ring books .. two of silmariliion and the nice new hardback of the Children of Hurin ..... so they arent making any money off of me. The poor guys could use some bucks ... especially if it allows them to find some more unfinished tales...

There will be deals made that will short the family of all the money and I don't like that at all.

**underxground** · July 31, 2009, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by A1_Unit

There will be deals made that will short the family of all the money and I don't like that at all.

Thats the way it works here in the fourth (or fifth?) age.
I think all the elves sailed west because they knew lawyers were coming soon. Probably a profession invented in the depths of moria or mordor, like how Tolkien implies machine guns and other instruments of death and torture were invented by goblins.

**kingman1337** · July 31, 2009, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Jean=A=Luc

nor a woman beautiful enough to represent Luthien.

uh, Megan Fox.

**A1_Unit** · July 31, 2009, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by underxground

Thats the way it works here in the fourth (or fifth?) age.
I think all the elves sailed west because they knew lawyers were coming soon. Probably a profession invented in the depths of moria or mordor, like how Tolkien implies machine guns and other instruments of death and torture were invented by goblins.

Yep!

**underxground** · July 31, 2009, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by kingman1337

uh, Megan Fox.

Megan Fox is hot. Like fire.
But shes not beautiful enough. Beauty needs grace and refinement on top of being pretty.
Some girls are hot, but only rarely are girls beautiful. Its something else.
Getting half nekked running from stupid robots doesnt qualify her as beautiful.

Think Audrey Hepburn compared to Paris Hilton.

**A1_Unit** · July 31, 2009, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by underxground

Megan Fox is hot. Like fire.
But shes not beautiful enough. Beauty needs grace and refinement on top of being pretty.
Some girls are hot, but only rarely are girls beautiful. Its something else.
Getting half nekked running from stupid robots doesnt qualify her as beautiful.

Think Audrey Hepburn compared to Paris Hilton.

I agree. she (actor) needs to be like Galadriel (not movie but character-wise), very powerful and wise and yet still beautiful. Looks aren't everything.

Sadly, Hollywood won't listen to my suggestions and I'll be horrified at the theatre.

**Jools_Jops** · July 31, 2009, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by jản

are you kiddin. what dune movie do you talk about. i know
there is a quite new movie version but there is thews old very
awesome version from david lynch from the 80s which was absolutley
amazing. okay, filmwise but you can't say that this movie went bad.

the david lynch film was a flop box office wise and was slammed by critics.

it only appeals to fans or hardcore sci-fi fans.

personally i think its a great film.

**underxground** · July 31, 2009, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Jools_Jops

the david lynch film was a flop box office wise and was slammed by critics.

it only appeals to fans or hardcore sci-fi fans.

personally i think its a great film.

Its like your looking into the future of the movie version of the silmarillion.