The Hobbit Trilogy 2012-2014

**Påsan** · October 21, 2014, 10:34 AM

I dont really like the Dwarven Desin in the Hobbit Movies. And I dont understand why they deviated from the perfectly established design palette in the old movies only to make new and wierder "fantastical" versions.

Spoiler for Hobbit Design:

Spoiler for LotR design:

**Araval** · October 22, 2014, 01:27 AM

Two new clips from DoS Extended Edition:

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**Ngugi** · October 22, 2014, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by Araval

Two new clips from DoS Extended Edition:

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So. The Witch-king was not a Nazgûl when in Angmar.
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Do this make sense even within the films own universe?

**Veteraan** · October 22, 2014, 05:05 AM

Though I don't like it, I would say yes. Mainly because you added the part of "within the films own universe"
I think that for the people who have not read the books (which is the majority no doubt) this will work well. Even much of those who did read the books might not have retained much knowledge about Angmar and the exact nature of the Nazgûl

**Lortano** · October 22, 2014, 09:23 AM

In the films universe, it does make sense because it mentions the witch King dying and being resurrected by the Necromancer

Edit: Still idiotic

**Påsan** · October 22, 2014, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Veteraan

I think that for the people who have not read the books (which is the majority no doubt)

Actually.. I think that the majority that watches the extended edition have read the books

**Veteraan** · October 22, 2014, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Påsan

Actually.. I think that the majority that watches the extended edition have read the books

Actually... I did consider the fact that this is about the extended edition before writing what I did. However, since we probably never will know one way or the other, it will remain a matter of different opinions.

**Araval** · October 23, 2014, 09:00 AM

EDIT: A new poster:

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**British empire** · October 23, 2014, 09:53 AM

Like the new poster

**Bercor** · October 23, 2014, 11:34 AM

Yeah, best poster till now.

**Veteraan** · October 23, 2014, 02:50 PM

It was a terrible battle. The most dreadful of all Bilbo's experiences, and the one which at the time he hated most - which is to say it was the one he was most proud of, and most fond of recalling long afterwards, although he was quite unimportant in it. Actually I must say he put on his ring early in the business, and vanished from sight, if not from all danger. A magic ring of that sort is not a complete protection in a goblin charge, nor does it stop flying arrows and wild spears; but it does help in getting out of the way, and it prevents your head from being specially chosen for a sweeping stroke by a goblin swordsman.
The Hobbit, Chapter 17, The clouds burst

Yes, great poster.

**MIKE GOLF** · October 23, 2014, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Araval

Here's something more for you, Lortano:

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Another Thorin poster:

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Another Bard poster:

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Azog banners:

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Bilbo banner:

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Some Dain and Iron Hills symbolics:

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I see some possible ancillary replacements here.......

**Påsan** · October 23, 2014, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by Veteraan

Yes, great poster.

Actually I seem to remember the battle being described in great detail for a Middle Earth battle.

Dwarves charges elves & Humans-> Gandalf appears -> Orcs and Wargs appears -> Batte commences -> Good side driven back -> Gobelins flank over the mountain & gains the high grounds -> Eagles appears -> Thorin and company appears clad in Mithril -> Thorin Dies -> Beorn Appears and kills Bolg and his bodyguards -> Wargs and Gobelins rout.

So would you like this version on the silver screen or "Bilbo is afraid and gets stone in head -> Battle over"

**The Despondent Mind** · October 23, 2014, 09:13 PM

Okay the posters are finally getting a little bit Interesting, Thorin ones looks coolest while the Gandalf one is just a load of BS...

**Veteraan** · October 24, 2014, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by Påsan

Actually I seem to remember the battle being described in great detail for a Middle Earth battle.

Dwarves charges elves & Humans-> Gandalf appears -> Orcs and Wargs appears -> Batte commences -> Good side driven back -> Gobelins flank over the mountain & gains the high grounds -> Eagles appears -> Thorin and company appears clad in Mithril -> Thorin Dies -> Beorn Appears and kills Bolg and his bodyguards -> Wargs and Gobelins rout.

So would you like this version on the silver screen or "Bilbo is afraid and gets stone in head -> Battle over"

The question raised is non relevant IMO. As so eloquently stated in the above quote, both events are described in the book. There is no reason, other than what PJ thinks would work best, to not have Bilbo invisible and incapacitated early in the fight whilst still showing the full battle.
My remark was a comment on the very prominent depiction of supposedly "Bilbo ready to kick some Orc ass" on that particular poster.

Luckily the Hobbit movies tend to "slightly" deviate from the books so the amount of spoiling we can do is limited.

**Lortano** · October 24, 2014, 09:42 AM

Yeah, hate to spoil a fifty year old books ending on forums full of people who generally have read the book. It's like, hate to spoil the ending of Valkyrie, but it fails and Hitler doesn't die in 1944.