The Hobbit 2012-2014 (First movie spoilers on the last pages)

[Ngugi]

now..it all makes sense...

pretty boy orlando bloom is gonna fall for pretty girl-female elf trainee ,but old mean-dad thranduil is gonna

I came so long and began to crack, thought you would say that daddy steals the girl from Orlando. I mean, he IS the king while Lego is a prince and got a few thousand years more practise on pick up lines

[Sgt. Noob]

corniness has its limits.. not even pj would go that far !!!

[Maiden_Ante]

Whats a decent accent for a beorning then? His potential own "swedish-accent-english" or another predetermined accent?

Considering that all the Middle-Earthians have pretty neutral American accents throughout the LOTR-trilogy I would be surprised if he had some typical hacky Swenglish accent because he couldn't deliver his lines properly. Then, after all, Stellan Skarsgård always sounds like a Swede, which is seldome mentioned in movies where he's not supposed to be one. Point being that I look forward to it, hoping Persbrandt won't screw it up.

To bring back Frodo, Legolas and Galadhriel seems unnecessary. Legolas I might understand, being portrayed shortly in a fleeting sense as he has no role in The Hobbit - but the rest? Fanboy pleasing.

[Túrin_Turambar]

To bring back Frodo, Legolas and Galadhriel seems unnecessary. Legolas I might understand, being portrayed shortly in a fleeting sense as he has no role in The Hobbit - but the rest? Fanboy pleasing.

I think you forgot the White Council

[cormagus77]

fanboy pleasing

...or directors framing! with Frodo PJ is doing nearly the same as he did in LOTR with Bilbo. Let someone tell the story from a viewbackperspective. maybe unnecessary but in terms of cinematography acceptable.

Legolas is a prince of the Woodland realm and since the Dwarves were dealing with the Elven King and his kingly halls it is only logical that Legolas has a part in it!
And Galadriel is indeed part of the White Council, and if you want the hobbit movies to cover also the White Council-Dol Guldur affair, she needs to be in!!!

To me therefore only Frodo is farfetched, although it might even come out nicely in the movies (I didn't hear anyone complaining about Bilbo writing in his book in the Lord of the Rings). Legolas and Galadriel make sense.

I just hope PJ keeps Aragorn and any other "unlawful" cameo out of this!!!

[Sgt. Noob]

aragorn did "the hunt for gollum" in the meantime ..when gandalf left the dwarves and bilbo went to find the white council ,but also aragorn..or not ?

[Påsan]

Considering that all the Middle-Earthians have pretty neutral American accents throughout the LOTR-trilogy

You might want to travel a bit and update yourself on how the British accent sounds like.

[cormagus77]

aragorn did "the hunt for gollum" in the meantime ..when gandalf left the dwarves and bilbo went to find the white council, but also aragorn..or not ?

no, the hunt for gollum was during the Lord of the Rings already. Iirc Aragorn was still an infant at the time of the Hobbit!

[Maiden_Ante]

I think you forgot the White Council

Yes, though the purging of Angmar happened off-scene in the book. Come to think of it, I actually wouldn't mind a cinemization of it. Huh, well then. Frodo's appearance is still just wrong, shouldn't he be a little boy by this time or not born at all?

Oh, Frodo is a narrator? Well... sure.

You might want to travel a bit and update yourself on how the British accent sounds like.

I might be wrong, it was a while since I watched the movies. I only remember Gandalf having a british accent and perhaps Aragorn as well. Come to think of it, I should've read up on everything before writing my post at all.

[Påsan]

Yeah the people in the movies speak mostly british english (even the american ones like Elijah Wood), Tolkien was a brit after all. Oh and the orcs speak the traditional universally accepted orc speech: Cocney.

[Miroslav Klose]

I just hope they will leave Gimli, Legolas and all the other LOTr characters out.

[Ngugi]

For Legolas to stay at home when his father march to war? Doesn't seem his kind of gig. *
Tolkien btw loves to let rulers bring their heirs into fights/tight spots, so his participation would be likely from that perspective too


*Edit: That Legolas never mentions that he was at the battle of 5 of course spekas against it. But at any rate he can be placed at Thandruils halls without any fuss, though make him to important for the main plot would be a loss.
To put him in Mirkwood and Battle of 5' would be smart from a movie and audience perspective, the films aint made for lore-fans but for anybody who likes the LotR film triology.

[brasswire]

I just hope they will leave Gimli, Legolas and all the other LOTr characters out.

Since he was definitely alive and was most probably present during the events of the Hobbit, I have no problem with them showing Legolas. What would be awesome though is if they included Legolas in the film but only as a background character who shows up in a few scenes, is never named and has no speaking parts. That will never happen, but would be the most accurate IMHO.

[Sgt. Noob]

legolas + female elf trainee = love4ever

:/ as stupid as it sounds i'm afraid it's really possible..the hobbit,the bold and the beautiful lol

[Påsan]

Frodo will be a pert of the introduction writing or telling the story. I love that. I mean, why not? It makes an awesome bridge between the trilogy and the Hobbit.

Legolas also fits in neatly, and I don't mind the occasional acrobatics either, its what defined the character and made him unique, just like Gimli's humour. The hobbit is all about Dwarves and Elves though, while the original was more about Men. So we'll see others from those races with different personalities and agendas. For example I doubt Thorin or Dain will be very "Funny" or if we will see the Elven king surf on top of eagles while shooting his bow.

[Sgt. Noob]

frodo would actually fit in just fine..

they could use him really well..
-or as narrator after he got the red book from bilbo
- or just as short cameos in an intro ,before bilbo departured for his quest
-or after bilbo returned (flasbacking) and narrated his adventures to him and the other hobbits (if i'm not mistaken,,they did know what those trolls turned to stone that they encountered in lotr were about..)

[conon394]

Legolas also fits in neatly

No he does not because he is an instantly sympathetic character and that disrupts the narrative flow of the elves being prats at best and serious dicks until they help the lake men refugees.

[Muffer Nl]

no, the hunt for gollum was during the Lord of the Rings already. Iirc Aragorn was still an infant at the time of the Hobbit!

He was 23 (60 years after the hobbit he was 83)

IMHO the movie should be treated as if they were made BEFORE the trilogy.

[Påsan]

He was 23 (60 years after the hobbit he was 83)

IMHO the movie should be treated as if they were made BEFORE the trilogy.

I respectfully disagree, but fair enough. I'd love to have the entire thing being a flashback to Frodo. But thats just my OP

[Hallow]

He was 23 (60 years after the hobbit he was 83)

IMHO the movie should be treated as if they were made BEFORE the trilogy.

He was 10-11.

Aragorn was born in TA 2931.

Bilbo Baggins left the Shire in TA 2941 and returned in TA 2942.

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