Awesome Mod

**Visiar** · July 28, 2009, 03:40 PM

When I played this mod I was amazed (although Spartan hippeis could be stronger than the Thebes Sacred Band) but otherwise I love it! Congrats on making this awesome mod!!!!

**Hopit** · July 29, 2009, 02:23 AM

spartans got defeated in real by theban sacred band

**KingLarsofMars** · July 29, 2009, 07:14 AM

You stole the words outta my mouth.

We kinda wanna make the Spartans weak, so that the real heroes win... (was bribed to say that)

**Visiar** · July 29, 2009, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Hopit

spartans got defeated in real by theban sacred band

Well it doesn't matter its still an awesome mod.

**Seleucos of Olympia** · August 02, 2009, 08:06 AM

Thanks!
This is a historical period when Spartans had just recently lost their status as best hoplites in Greece to the Theban Sacred Bandmen (in a very dramatic and bloody way), and this only lasted until the Sacred Band was wiped out at the Battle of Chaeroneia, in 338 BC, so it felt fair to make the Spartans second best, if only in this one Greek mod.

**Spartan198** · August 02, 2009, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by KingLarsofMars

We kinda wanna make the Spartans weak, so that the real heroes win... (was bribed to say that)

Blasphemy! Corrupt blasphemy!

**CAPTAIN LOKI** · August 04, 2009, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by Spartan198

Blasphemy! Corrupt blasphemy!

just change their stats to make them number 1 again BWAHAHAHAHA!

**Visiar** · August 08, 2009, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Seleucos of Olympia

Thanks!
This is a historical period when Spartans had just recently lost their status as best hoplites in Greece to the Theban Sacred Bandmen (in a very dramatic and bloody way), and this only lasted until the Sacred Band was wiped out at the Battle of Chaeroneia, in 338 BC, so it felt fair to make the Spartans second best, if only in this one Greek mod.

I think it was the battle of Leuctra that the spartans were defeated.

**messiah** · August 09, 2009, 03:20 AM

Originally Posted by visiar

I think it was the battle of Leuctra that the spartans were defeated.

That's right. But if I'm not mistaken there were two battles where the Thebans crushed the Spartans.

**Antiochos VII Sidetes** · August 10, 2009, 11:06 AM

True. Mantinea, though Epaminondas died in the winning.

**messiah** · August 10, 2009, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Antiochos VII Sidetes

True. Mantinea, though Epaminondas died in the winning.

Poor Epaminondas. He was one of the first persons (or maybe the first person) before Philip II of Macedon to unite Greece or die trying. Even if the Thebans couldn't rule Greece like one Theban nation, Greece would still be united like it was after the battle of Thermopylae.

**Alexius 17** · August 15, 2009, 06:46 AM

Alexandros never united all of Greece, and certainly not in the long term.

**cpdwane** · January 13, 2010, 11:48 AM

Where Alexander is concerned... United? More like subjugated...

**debux** · January 14, 2010, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by cpdwane

Where Alexander is concerned... United? More like subjugated...

I hold Philip in much more high esteem over this point. The only thing I know where Alexander made something that affected greece was when he razed Thebes to the ground (I also think he made a league, but I'm not sure. Gotta get back to read again about that). Philip II was able to unite greece in political means as well, but Alexanader was a hell of a commander nonetheless.

**cpdwane** · January 16, 2010, 11:47 AM

Your'e right, good point.
Even so, I don't think Alexander could have held onto his possessions in Greece for much longer if he hadn't died at the convenient time he did. Greeks would have seen, especially as Alexander was heavily down the road of medizing by then, that he was just another foreign leader trying to invade the world, and they would have kicked his soldiers and puppet rulers out of Greece. Sure, they couldn't have defeated Alexander in battle, but since his new capital was at Ectabatana in Media anyway they wouldn't have had to fight him. Fortunately for Alexander, history has never allowed us to see what he would have been like as a peacetime leader, although I think he would probably have just kept invading places (Carthage was next on his list), much like Napoleon really.
By the way, the League you refer to was the League of Corinth, which I believe he reinstated, although he was also head of the Thessalian League.