28 Days, Weeks, Months???

[VOP2288]

Just wondering what the word on the street is for all those more film-informed than I am...are they or are they not making a 28 Months Later film?

I recall hearing a rumor that they were going to...which isn't totally out of the question given the second film's ending:

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The two kids and pilot escape Britain but then crash in France...releasing the virus outside of England...the film ending with infected running amok in Paris.

Anyone got any news or other rumors?

[DisgruntledGoat]

They are making a 28 Months and it takes place in Russia. At least thats what I heard last.

[Manco]

I hope it's not in Russia. I'd like it if it stayed in Western Europe, where there are barely guns and no isolated locations. Going to Russia would mean the film has an entirely different vibe.

[Captain Jin]

28 Weeks later was stupid. I'm sorry but they herded all those people in the basement and locked them in with a chain and padlock which one infected guy somehow broke through and then all hell breaks lose? Stuuuuuuuupid. And also, if the US military or any military for that matter had a contingency plan set up it would never be as retarded as an assortment of designated marksman with semi-automatic weapons on a few rooftops and a few trucks mounted with machine guns. That's stupid. They'd have armored vehicles with 20mm bushmasters, more then just DMs on rooftops and so on. It was completely stupid plot that coulda been way better.

[Claudius Gothicus]

28 Weeks later was stupid. I'm sorry but they herded all those people in the basement and locked them in with a chain and padlock which one infected guy somehow broke through and then all hell breaks lose? Stuuuuuuuupid. And also, if the US military or any military for that matter had a contingency plan set up it would never be as retarded as an assortment of designated marksman with semi-automatic weapons on a few rooftops and a few trucks mounted with machine guns. That's stupid. They'd have armored vehicles with 20mm bushmasters, more then just DMs on rooftops and so on. It was completely stupid plot that coulda been way better.

Exactly, a contingency plan of that kind should have included lost of Cal 50 machine guns on Humvees, apaches and at least some Bradley light tanks.

[Manco]

Militaries in zombiefilms (and yes I know they aren't really zombies) are usually vastly incompetent.

[Captain Jin]

Well actually, they are usually non-existent. In all these Zombie movies no one ever explains where the military is. In RE2 it was Umbrella that was unprepared, not the military. All those day of the dead, night of the dead or whatever movies never say wtf happened to the military. That's why Sean of the Dead is the best zombie film, cause the Army shows up and starts slaughtering the zombies with ease, which is exactly what would happen in real life.

I hate zombie movies cause of that. I tend to think about how impossible it would be for a zombie to get inside of an LAV, or an Abrams tank, or even clamor into the back of an armored HMMV highback with a pack of troops just firing into a crowd of brain dead flesh eaters.

[DisgruntledGoat]

Well actually, they are usually non-existent. In all these Zombie movies no one ever explains where the military is. In RE2 it was Umbrella that was unprepared, not the military. All those day of the dead, night of the dead or whatever movies never say wtf happened to the military. That's why Sean of the Dead is the best zombie film, cause the Army shows up and starts slaughtering the zombies with ease, which is exactly what would happen in real life.

I hate zombie movies cause of that. I tend to think about how impossible it would be for a zombie to get inside of an LAV, or an Abrams tank, or even clamor into the back of an armored HMMV highback with a pack of troops just firing into a crowd of brain dead flesh eaters.

World War Z gives, imo, the best portrayal of why a modern military might fail in the midst of a zombie apocalypse.

[Captain Jin]

I like that picture, but I've never heard of World War Z, is that a book or movie or what?

[removeduser_052420]

Holy ! What the Hell is that?!

[DisgruntledGoat]

I like that picture, but I've never heard of World War Z, is that a book or movie or what?

You're in a thread about Zombie movies and you have never heard of the greatest Zombie Apocalypse book ever written? The picture is from the Battle of Yonkers, in World War Z where the US Army is over run by a zombie horde. The book itself retells the 10 year history of the Zombie War (or World War Z) through the interviews with survivors. Not only is it a great work of fiction its also a great commentary on current political and social problems. A MUST read for anyone. Not just sci-fi lovers.

[Mr. Pink]

28 days later was a class movie though I've still not seen 28 weeks later.

[Captain Jin]

You're in a thread about Zombie movies and you have never heard of the greatest Zombie Apocalypse book ever written? The picture is from the Battle of Yonkers, in World War Z where the US Army is over run by a zombie horde. The book itself retells the 10 year history of the Zombie War (or World War Z) through the interviews with survivors. Not only is it a great work of fiction its also a great commentary on current political and social problems. A MUST read for anyone. Not just sci-fi lovers.

Ok, I just looked it up and I recognize the cover. I've actually seen it sitting in my buddy's room. I remembered now laughing about it but he said it was actually pretty good.

Anyhow, I went ahead and read the plot synopsis out of curiosity. It doesn't go into detail in there though about how the US Army is overrun by a horde or zombies other then reliance on ineffective weapons and cold war era tactics.... which I don't see how that would lead to being overrun by Zombies.

[removeduser_052420]

You're in a thread about Zombie movies and you have never heard of the greatest Zombie Apocalypse book ever written? The picture is from the Battle of Yonkers, in World War Z where the US Army is over run by a zombie horde. The book itself retells the 10 year history of the Zombie War (or World War Z) through the interviews with survivors. Not only is it a great work of fiction its also a great commentary on current political and social problems. A MUST read for anyone. Not just sci-fi lovers.

Dang, That sounds ing Awesome! I saw it at Waldenbooks at the mall a few days ago, i'll be sure to pick it up, thanks

[DisgruntledGoat]

Ok, I just looked it up and I recognize the cover. I've actually seen it sitting in my buddy's room. I remembered now laughing about it but he said it was actually pretty good.

Anyhow, I went ahead and read the plot synopsis out of curiosity. It doesn't go into detail in there though about how the US Army is overrun by a horde or zombies other then reliance on ineffective weapons and cold war era tactics.... which I don't see how that would lead to being overrun by Zombies.

Without ruining things, if you do decide to read it (I highly recommend it), our weapons are designed to kill humans. Most of the time through massive bodily damage. That becomes a problem when your enemy requires its brain to be destroyed (or at the very least severing the head from the body). Sure high explosives and high tech weapons will kill a few but when you are facing hundreds of thousands? Eventually panic is going to set it. Theres more to it than that obviously. And Max Brooks REALLY researched the weapons tech in the book. Its an absolutely fabulous read.

[Da Skinna]

Without ruining things, if you do decide to read it (I highly recommend it), our weapons are designed to kill humans. Most of the time through massive bodily damage. That becomes a problem when your enemy requires its brain to be destroyed (or at the very least severing the head from the body). Sure high explosives and high tech weapons will kill a few but when you are facing hundreds of thousands? Eventually panic is going to set it. Theres more to it than that obviously. And Max Brooks REALLY researched the weapons tech in the book. Its an absolutely fabulous read.

Hey without ruining it, can you tell us the ending?

[Caduet]

I like that picture, but I've never heard of World War Z, is that a book or movie or what?

It is currently the best book in existence. It predicts the future. They are also making it into a movie (that actually may turn out pretty good).
Seriously though, Battle of Yonkers was pretty epic, and extremely well written, as the the author makes a pretty convincing job of explaining how the US armed forces manages to lose against a foe that walks straight at you.

Lotta socialism in it though. Some people might not like that.

[Claudius Gothicus]

Without ruining things, if you do decide to read it (I highly recommend it), our weapons are designed to kill humans. Most of the time through massive bodily damage. That becomes a problem when your enemy requires its brain to be destroyed (or at the very least severing the head from the body). Sure high explosives and high tech weapons will kill a few but when you are facing hundreds of thousands? Eventually panic is going to set it. Theres more to it than that obviously. And Max Brooks REALLY researched the weapons tech in the book. Its an absolutely fabulous read.

That applies for the 'destroy the brain' type of zombie, but the ones in 28 days/weeks later could be easily defeated, they runned straight foward to you, the only thing the US troops needed was some massive automatic weapons firepower and done the outbreak is over.

[VOP2288]

@Jin

While I agree that the military in zombie films is a little underrated it is completely logical that a zombie/undead outbreak would eventually destroy even the strongest of armies. Sure, they have high-tech weapons and armored vehicles...but what happens when that soldier or tank runs out of ammo? Maybe there's an ammo dump somewhere but what if that gets swamped by zombies while the main force is out there fighting? Same goes for fuel...those resources would have to be extremely well defended for an army to even survive long enough to win over an undead enemy force. And if we're talking about an outbreak that lasts years and years then the manufacturing of ammo and the tapping of fuel sources would also have to still be around and well protected.

Also, it's amazing how effective a group of enemies can be when they're not concerned about death...they just swarm...line after line of undead...eventually you'll run out of ammo or someone on the defensive side will miss one enemy who breaks through and gets someone - causing a panic and the epidemic to spread like wildfire through the defensive line.

That applies for the 'destroy the brain' type of zombie, but the ones in 28 days/weeks later could be easily defeated, they runned straight foward to you, the only thing the US troops needed was some massive automatic weapons firepower and done the outbreak is over

Well yeah...b/c they weren't zombies...they were infected...

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

Might add in when it comes to the military thing.

When it comes to zombies(not counting the infected here since they are not zombies) the thing is to go for the overall theme of the movie.
Romero for example brings up the issue of morality. You see your loved one coming at you, can you really put a bullet in her/his head ?
Hence why the zombie takes over, humans could not do what was needed. Put this together with outmost contempt for them.
I see this on many forums people go "oh but they are so slow, they are no threat" which is again, exactly why they win.
One on one they might not be much but when they swarm in the thousands well then it's another story.

And if you look at "Return of the living dead" which follows the zombie model where the zombies can't be killed, you see that the military and their actions is actually the ones that causes the zombies to win.