TATW Battle Editor (Tutorials, Help, Manual, Development)

**jản** · July 13, 2009, 05:28 AM

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'Battle Editor Manual'
[ for TATW and all other M2TW games as well ]

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directory:

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(1) /// GETTING STARTED
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(2) /// EDIT LANDSCAPE
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(3) /// ADD BUILDINGS, OBJECTS AND NATURE ELEMENTS
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(4) /// ADD FACTIONS AND UNITS
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(5) /// SET ALLIANCES
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(6) /// SET VICTORY CONDITIONS
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(7) /// A SCREENSHOT GUIDE (by Thompson45cal.)
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(8) /// BUGS & WHAT IS NOT WORKING & BUGS
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(9) /// DESCR_BATTLE.TXT Editing
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(10) /// DOWNLOAD EXAMPLE BATTLES
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(1) GETTING STARTED
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> activate the Battle Editor by adding the command in the TATW.cfg
Code:
```
[features]
editor = true
mod = mods/Third_Age
```

or add this to the M2TW config file 'medieval2.preference.cfg'
Code:
```
[features]
editor = true
```
(this will works too - but notice that at some configuration the .cfg file
will delete the feature tag - to avoid that make the file write-protected
after you added the feature tag with the editor enabling)

> start TATW and go to 'Options' > 'Battle Editor'

> a map of Europe and the middle east appears
> choose a location (vegetation) here

Spoiler for when game crashes:

> when using it the first time the game returns a CTD
> simply restart and try again
> if it still crashing load a battle (like agincourt or sentenil)
> after the battle has loaded you can use this map or you can restart the editor because now it works with the vegetation choosing

WARNING:
be warned that the editor may/will crash every now and then - so be sure to safe often
(it mostly crashes when you place buildings, settlements or objects)

USE YOUR BATTLES AS A MAP FOR CUSTOM BATTLES:

you can copy the folder of your custom created historical battle to the folder for
the custom battles (the one where "grassy plain" is located) to make it available
in the custom battle map selection (but units and deployment areas are not existing than)

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(2) EDIT LANDSCAPE
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press <G> to view a grid which helps you a lot
> after you chose a map begin starting to edit the surface with the four tools
> when you plan on including bigger buildings than at first select an place buildings
(because if you edit the landscape at first and you place a building there later,
your complete landscape will be reseted in the surroundings of the building)

> edit landscape heights (press <LMB> to increase and press and hold <Shift + LMB> to go decrease)
> smooth tools (not working very well - kinda useless)
> plateau tool
> smudge tool

> explanations of all tools and modes are viewed on the top of the screen at each active mode

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(3) ADD BUILDINGS, OBJECTS AND NATURE ELEMENTS
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> go to 'Place / Edit World Package' mode and select a category
> select a unit by clicking on it
> move it around on the map
> press and hold <SHIFT> to set the height
> press <RMB> to delete active / selected building/object
> place it with <LMB>
> you can edit the buildings / object by moving the cursor over it and clicking on it while the is a white frame around it
> to rotate buildings press <O> while you are in placing mode

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(4) ADD FACTIONS AND UNITS
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CREATE ARMY

> go to the 'Create Army' mode and create a army
> you can set them to reinforcement by activating the option and set a time
> notice that you can deploy at most 8 armies (all combinations f.e. 4 vs 4 // 1 vs 7)
(unless you deploy armies that will be appear as reinforcements and will be added to the players unit list)

CREATE DEPLOYMENT AREA

> first activate a army by clicking first on th faction first and than select the general
> go to the 'Create Deployment Area' mode
> add corner marks by clicking on the the ground
(TIP: only use four corner marks because it is really buggy if you use more than that)
> you can move and delete existing corner marks (when your are still in the 'Create Deployment Area' mode for the faction you edit) by moving the cursor over a corner marks until it is rotating
> (this is really hard because the corner-mark is really small - if the cursor is not moving you are not on the corner mark)
> on the corner mark press and hold <LMB> to move the mark and <RMB> to delete it

CREATE UNITS

> go to the 'Create/edit Units' mode select your preferred unit
> you have to place at least one general (marked with a silver star in the list)
> edit existing units by move the cursor over it until the info-popup of that unit appears
> than click on it with <RMB> and edit it

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SET ALLIANCES AND VICTORY CONDITIONS
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(5) ALLIANCES

> got to the 'set victory conditions' mode
> set timelimit (leave a "0" for unlimited battle time)
> select homefaction
> make new alliances by add one with the plus and check all factions that should be allied
> than make another alliance row where you define other alliances

> edit alliance options
>>> D (deploy) defines if the faction of that alliance can deploy before battle
>>> V (view) defines if the faction of that alliance can see the position of the other factions before battle
>>> W (wait) defines if the faction of that alliance have to wait for some time before they enter battle
>>> A (attacking) defines if the faction of that alliance is attacking (checked) or defending (not checked)

Click to view content:

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(6) VICTORY CONDITIONS

> for each alliance you have to create a winning condition
> for that select the alliance with the grabber and select one condition
> add it by pressing the plus-symbol
> repeat it for all other alliances
> than make another alliance row where you define other alliances

Click to view content:

thats all - hope it works - if you have questions ask them - i'll help you where ever i can

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(7) A SCREENSHOT GUIDE (by Thompson45cal.)
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(8) WHAT IS NOT WORKING & BUGS
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> forts can not be assigned to factions (at least i don't know how)
> bridges are not recognized as passable paths (but can be crossed anyway) (at least i don't know how)
> the 'Place and move feature model' mode is not working (at least i don't know how)
> the 'Add settlement plan and buildings' mode is not working (at least i don't know how)
> the 'Edit Roads' mode is not working (at least i don't know how)
> the 'Add and remove trees' mode is not working (at least i don't know how)

further known bugs from totalwar.org forum by RegiaSaxon

Click to view content:

Edit Battle Details requester
1) Set time limit to 0 to have no time limit for the battle. This causes a Sanity error but still works.

2) There is no option in the editor to set the battle year - this must be added by editing the descr_battle.txt file manually.

Edit Army Details requester
1) Is reinforcement doesn't seem to work or the associated Joins in 0 minutes setting. Reinforcements will appear in the battle at the correct time but they will do nothing. Occasionaly, the unit tooltip reports them as marching when they are still. The Is reinforcement tick box resets itself immediately the requester is closed and then opened again.

2) The purpose of Num supporting armies is unknown at present.

3) The Command setting does not work. It is not written to the descr_battle.txt when you save your battle and needs to be added by editing this file manually. However, if you later resave you battle via the editor the Command setting will be reset to 0.

4) When trying to edit an army you have already created the requester does not update it's settings in accordance with the army you have selected. Therefore, if you have two factions - Romans and Britannia (created in that order), and you select Romans, the Select faction option will still read Britannia. The option is disabled I presume to stop problems with changing a faction that already has faction-specific units assigned to it. I'll be looking into this a little more.

5) There is no option to choose if the current faction is playable or not. This must be added by editing the descr_battle.txt file manually.

Settlements
1) Settlements are highly unstable when it comes to placing them in the battle editor. Most of the time they appear fine unless you delete them (although this isn't always the case). This causes the 3D models to separate from the ground textures and appear elsewhere on the map (randomly, it would seem). Using settlements from within Default_set and Default_port_set is a lot more reliable than using the others.

2) Moving settlements is not very well explained. Click and hold the left mouse button down on the settlement. With the button still down, move the mouse to the location you want to move the settlement to - you will see the green placement area. Release the left mouse button.

3) Moving and placing settlements can cause holes in the map, which are square and show sky through them. These will not show up in the actual battle but you can 'fall' through them when moving the camera over them in the battle editor. This can cause the entire 3D world to go black and you will need to exit and reload the battle editor to clear the problem.

Models
1) There doesn't seem to be any way of adding bridges over rivers, although this could be related to the campaign map and the way in which the campaign 'grows'.

2) When placing a model near a river, the base area of the model is huge and 'dries up' the river. Although the visible model area is only tiny, they seem to have a huge second area. Imagine a Roman legion has to build a fort but needs to clear an area 500 miles square and you'll get the picture. Alternatively, just give it a try.

Misc
1) Rotating the camera facing directly down will result in the view flipping and you will suddenly be looking at sky. Just rotate the other way to restore the view.

Well, there you go, my findings so far. It may well be a case that a lot of the problems are deliberate or possibly linked to game mechanics that are controlled elsewhere (such as adding bridges). It is certain that some are just quirks. Maybe one of the CA guys will gatecrash my topic and help out.

Cheers
Chalky

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(9) EDITING THE 'DESCR_BATTLE.TXT'
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directory:

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(1) /// edit general
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(2) /// edit settlements
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(3) /// edit characters
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(4) /// edit reinforcements
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[edit Title and Battle Settings]
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you can set and change the name of the battle, the playable factions the
date, the battle time and the weather in the "descr_battle.txt".

> the name must not have <SPACE> in it - you have to separate words by signs like "_" or "-"
> playable factions must be deleted under non-playable and vice versa

> the battle_time has n normal 24 hours clock format 22.00 means 11.00 PM

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[edit Settlements]
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after you placed a settlement in the Battle Editor, you can edit it
in the "descr_battle.txt".

first you can set the type of the settlement so the attacking AI
enemy knows what siege engines he has to field. (but you have to
assign such siege engines in the battle editor or by adding an information
on a single unit in the "descr_battle.txt" with ", attach_engine ladder" or
", attach_engine ram")

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EXAMPLES:

Code:

settlement
{
    level village
    (...)
}
the enemy fields no siege  equipment

Code:

settlement castle
 {
     level village
    (...)
}
the enemy fields only rams

Code:

settlement castle
 {
     level large_city
    (...)
}
the enemy fields rams, ladders and siege towers

Code:

settlement  castle
 {
     level huge_city
    (...)
}
the enemy fields only rams and  huge siege towers.

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here is a list of all settlement types:

Click to view content:

this settlements definition can be changed for every
settlement. if you only have placed a model of a
wooden_fort but change it to 'castle' and 'large_city'
the enemy fields rams, ladders and towers which they
can't even use.

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here is a list of all settlements elements that are available:

Settlement	Followed by either 'city' or 'castle'
tile	which tile the whole battle is being fought . Same as all armies
level	Followed by : town , large_town , city , large_city , huge_city
year_founded	Not important , should match the founded year as you said in the editor though
fortification	level of fortification . I suppose it should match the level of fortification like in the editor
northern_european	Not sure bout this one . i think the culture of the city , but in TATW , the editor only has : men , dwarven , elvish , mesoamerican (these aren't the correct names !)
walls	don't know , could be either the level of the walls , or the amount of walls in the city
towers	0 - watchtower / 1 - arrow tower / 2 - ballista tower / 3 - cannon tower
gates	don't know . I suspect the level of the gates (how strong it is)
gate_defences	don't know . Might have something to do with boiling oil , perhaps ?
population	population of the city . Not important i think
faction_creator	who owns the settlement during a battle.
package_path	should be following the path to the custom city you chose when you placed it with the battle editor

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here is a list of what you can delete and which changes nothing in the game:

Code:

 faction    sicily
 settlement castle
 {
     level large_city
     tile 318 246
 
     year_founded 2010
 
     turns_owned 10
     fortification 4 gondor towers 2
     population 59000
     plan_set default_set
     faction_creator sicily
 package_path  settlements/Middle_Eastern/Castles/Wooden_fort/Middle_Eastern_wooden_fort_A.world
 }

all other things are essential and makes the game crash if
deleted. only the package_path is something you can delete, but
this results that the settlement is not assigned anymore.

but remember - you can not change the type of the settlements itself without the
battle editor, because the model and its geographical informations are saved in
the "map.wfc" file too. but editing the "map.wfc" causes the game to crashes!

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[edit Characters ]
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you can edit the Name, the title, the age, the portrait and the traits of a general.

> add all traits you want - but notice that not all have an effect (tax traits f.e.)

> used names has to be listed under the factions name list "descr_names.txt"
(these are the names from the dropdown-menu in the editor).
> every character begins with general if you dont change anything
> here is a list what possibilities you have (example Rohan):

Code:

character    Theoden, general, male, age 62, x 343, y 302,  portrait Theoden
traits GoodCommander 3 , GoodCavalryGeneral 1 , Brave 1

results: General Theoden

Code:

character    Theoden, named character, male, age 62, x 343, y 302,  portrait Theoden
traits GoodCommander 3 , GoodCavalryGeneral 1 , Brave 1

results: Theoden

Code:

character    Theoden, named character, male, heir, age 62, x 343, y  302, portrait Theoden
 traits GoodCommander 3 , GoodCavalryGeneral 1 , Brave 1

results: Lord Theoden

Code:

character    Theoden, named character, male, leader, age 62, x  343, y 302, portrait Theoden
traits GoodCommander 3 , GoodCavalryGeneral 1 , Brave 1

results: King Theoden
(or results Titles: Steward, Chieftain, High King ... > adaptable to other factions leader and successor titles)

BUT the problem with the "named character" is that reinforcements will not be
added to the actual units when they are a named character. so all reinforcements
have to be normal generals without the "named character" tag. but they can't
get a unique portrait.

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[edit Reinforcements]
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> if you want to add the reinforcements to your playable garrison you have to use a "general" as reinforcements
> if you want the reinforcements to fight on their own being AI controlled you have to use a "named character" as reinforcements

> you can edit the time the reinforcing armies appear on the battle field with the "reinforcement_time" tag
> the editor itself only allows minimum 6 minutes or more (= 0.100 at "reinforcement_time")
> but you can set the reinforcement time manually:

reinforcement_time 0.100 >>> 6 minutes
reinforcement_time 0.417 >>> 25 minutes
reinforcement_time 0.001 >>> 5 seconds
reinforcement_time 0.0001 >>> less than a second

reminder:

> adding a army as a reinforcement will make them unplayable but after they
appear on the battlefield (and are AI controlled) they fight in an offensive
style when they are spawned

> if your troops will be reinforced by playable troops remember that you
play at most 20 units - all other units will stand still and do nothing until
you have a free unit slot for one unit has withdrawn from the battlefield
or is eliminated completely

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<<< DOWNLOAD Total War Editor Manuals HERE >>>

(BATTLE SCRIPTING.pdf // 2 different BATTLE EDITOR.pdf -- both with a lot
of screenshots // NOTE: based on RTW Editor but its the same system)

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(10) DOWNLOAD EXAMPLE BATTLES
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Battle of Helms Deep
(with all possible customizations from this tutorial - open it the Battle Editor to view all of these customizations)

>>> www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=277430

A list of all custom battles:

>>> www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=281944

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**jản** · July 13, 2009, 12:25 PM

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btw - i tried to understand that battle scripting thing. it is definately
possible. when watch or play the agincourt battle, there is a second
french army attacking after a while. that works like that:

> first you have to lable all units with name tags
(with the 'label_unit' command)

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> than you can set off th AI (for single units)
(with 'ai_active_set off')

> than you can assign a comand to a unit which can be delayed
with 'battle_wait 10' and than
'unit_order_move king_theoden -668 -156' or even
'unit_order_attack_unit rohan_king_theoden isengard_gazgulf run'

> after an event or after a certain time you can tunr AI on again

> these are the commands but i dont know how to implement them correctly - sorry

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i think i have to make silvan elves not playable anymore as long
as no one can script it correctly. becasue you can not tell one
faction not to run and fight in the battle editor.

**jản** · July 13, 2009, 01:41 PM

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okay - here is what i found out.
looks like forts are never belonging
to a faction. is used th battle editor
in kingdoms britania - and when you
create a fort there i cant be assigned
to anyone. but wooden castle (or all
other settlemts working)

Click to view content:

thats strange - in britania forts does have a piaza.
but they are no settlements witch taxes and population.
in the descr_strat.txt they only appears as

Code:

fort     25 45 stone_fort_a culture northern_european

nothing about faction assignment - nothing.
and i dont know what the game does when a
army enters a fort - i mean hwo the game recognizes
what faction asignment it has when another faction is
entering or attacking it?

i think this remeins a problem which cant be solved.

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**Killerbee** · July 18, 2009, 05:30 AM

Err .. Is there someone who can correctly add armies with lots of reinforcements ?

I get a CTD when i push the 'Pelennor_Fields' in the battle selection (this is not the one you guys can download

) . And i'm 100% sure it's because of armies/reinforcements . Does anyone know how to do this ? Here's the army setup :

Gondor :
- faramir : No reinforcement , starts at the left side of the city
- Denethor : No reinforcement , starts at the front side of the city (main entrance)
- Ecthelion : No reinforcement, starts at the right side of the city
- Aragorn : Is reinforcement (joins at about 16 mins) , starts at the city center
- Gondor dude : Is reinforcement , joins at about 8 mins , at the second ring of the fortress
- Rohan (Theoden) : Is reinforcement , joins in about 25 mins (or later , dunno for sure)

Mordor :
- Gazbag : No reinforcement , starts at the left side of the city (outside ofcourse)
- Witch-King : No reinforcement , starts at the front side of the city (main entrance ; outside ofcourse)
- Shagug : No reinforcement, starts at the right side of the city (outside ofcourse)
- Mordor dude : Is reinforcement , starts in about 9 mins
- Mordor Dude : I thought this one was necessary (that both alliances have the same amount of armies , but didn't do anything)
- Harad (Harad dude) : Starts some mins after Rohan .

So what should be the deployment ?

I tried quite some stuff , but it always does the same : CTD . And when i load the battle editor , most stats are reset : Command is back to 0 , supporting armies back to 0 , but the name , and the reinforcements (+time) stay the same ..

**jản** · July 18, 2009, 05:42 AM

please post the content of the "descr_battle.txt"
with [code] <your content> [/code] brackets.

and also the content of the "editor_log.txt"
but delete all content of the log file at first, than
start and let it crash - and than post it.

**Killerbee** · July 18, 2009, 05:48 AM

Alright , of we go :

Code:

; Custom battle script generated by Romans Battle Editor

battle        Battle_of_Pelennor
playable
    sicily
    england
end
nonplayable
    milan
    spain
end


start_date    500 summer
end_date    500 summer


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faction    sicily
character    Faramir, general, male, age 30, x 286, y 23
army
unit        Gondor Bodyguard                soldiers 18 exp 4 armour 2 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Infantry                soldiers 80 exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Dismounted Kofm                soldiers 55 exp 2 armour 2 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Militia Archers                soldiers 55 exp 2 armour 2 weapon_lvl 0

character    Denethor, general, male, age 27, x 286, y 23
army
unit        Gondor Bodyguard                soldiers 15 exp 1 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Spearmen                soldiers 80 exp 4 armour 2 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Archers                soldiers 60 exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Archers                soldiers 60 exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Dismounted Kofm                soldiers 55 exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Dismounted Kofm                soldiers 67 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1

character    Ecthelion, general, male, age 26, x 286, y 23
army
unit        Gondor Bodyguard                soldiers 16 exp 3 armour 2 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Militia Archers                soldiers 55 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Spearmen                soldiers 75 exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Dismounted Kofm                soldiers 55 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1

character    Aragorn, general, male, age 29, x 286, y 23
army
unit        Gondor Bodyguard                soldiers 18 exp 5 armour 3 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Swan Knights                soldiers 52 exp 4 armour 2 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Kingsguard                soldiers 55 exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Archers                soldiers 62 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Archers                soldiers 62 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Infantry                soldiers 62 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1

character    Amlaith, general, male, age 28, x 286, y 23
army
unit        Gondor Bodyguard                soldiers 18 exp 3 armour 2 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Infantry                soldiers 55 exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Infantry                soldiers 55 exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Spearmen                soldiers 82 exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Spearmen                soldiers 82 exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Archers                soldiers 65 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Archers                soldiers 65 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1

faction    milan
character    Theoden, general, male, age 30, x 286, y 23
army
unit        rohan bodyguards                soldiers 38 exp 3 armour 2 weapon_lvl 1
unit        rohan rider                soldiers 62 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        rohan rider                soldiers 62 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        rohan rider                soldiers 62 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        eorlingas                soldiers 45 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        eorlingas                soldiers 45 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Rohan Horsearchers                soldiers 65 exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Rohan Horsearchers                soldiers 65 exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Rohan Horsearchers                soldiers 65 exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Royal Guard                soldiers 38 exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Royal Guard                soldiers 38 exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1

faction    england
character    Gorthak, general, male, age 30, x 286, y 23
army
unit        Uruk Bodyguards                soldiers 20 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Mordor Orcs Mercs                soldiers 101 exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mordor Orcs Mercs                soldiers 101 exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mordor Archers                soldiers 45 exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mordor Orcs                soldiers 75 exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        2handed Orcs                soldiers 75 exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character    Nazgula, general, male, age 30, x 286, y 23
army
unit        Uruk Bodyguards                soldiers 23 exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Dismounted Nazgul                soldiers 8 exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Mordor Uruks                soldiers 50 exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mordor Orcs Mercs                soldiers 95 exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mordor Orcs Mercs                soldiers 95 exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mordor Orcs Mercs                soldiers 95 exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mordor Orcs                soldiers 95 exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mordor Orcs                soldiers 95 exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mordor Archers                soldiers 40 exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mordor Archers                soldiers 40 exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Uruk Archers                soldiers 55 exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0

character    Shagug, general, male, age 30, x 286, y 23
army
unit        Uruk Bodyguards                soldiers 10 exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mordor Archers                soldiers 72 exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mordor Archers                soldiers 72 exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Orc Band                soldiers 82 exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Orc Band                soldiers 82 exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mordor Orcs                soldiers 82 exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mordor Orcs                soldiers 82 exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character    Gazbag, general, male, age 30, x 286, y 23
army
unit        Uruk Bodyguards                soldiers 3 exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mordor Catapult                soldiers 2 exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mordor Catapult                soldiers 2 exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Battle Trolls                soldiers 3 exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

character    Azog, general, male, age 30, x 286, y 23
army
unit        Uruk Bodyguards                soldiers 11 exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0

faction    spain
character    Haashim, general, male, age 30, x 286, y 23
army
unit        Desert Spearmen                soldiers 60 exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Desert Spearmen                soldiers 60 exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Desert Spearmen                soldiers 60 exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Desert Spearmen                soldiers 60 exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Harad Archers Mercs                soldiers 67 exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Southron Pikemen                soldiers 67 exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Southron Pikemen                soldiers 67 exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Southron Spearmen                soldiers 67 exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Serpent Bodyguard                soldiers 13 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0

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; >>>> start of battle section <<<<

battle    286, 23
battle_time    12.00    24.00
weather    clear

home_faction    sicily
alliance    sicily, milan, defending
alliance    england, spain, attacking

army    sicily, 0, no_withdraw, supporting_armies 0

deployment_area_point    -452.523, 442.449
deployment_area_point    -543.307, 424.055
deployment_area_point    -541.168, 660.104
deployment_area_point    -451.136, 636.575

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unit            2, -472.483, 539.730, -89, formation_type square, formation_width 20.161
unit            3, -517.021, 475.673, -95, formation_type square, formation_width 20.236

army    sicily, 1, no_withdraw, supporting_armies 0

deployment_area_point    -234.354, 59.452
deployment_area_point    -250.797, -28.485
deployment_area_point    55.283, -33.991
deployment_area_point    49.838, 60.443

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unit            3, -148.589, -18.964, 173, formation_type square, formation_width 21.129
unit            4, -51.659, 21.465, 179, formation_type square, formation_width 19.660
unit            5, -105.312, 23.274, 174, formation_type square, formation_width 23.222

army    sicily, 2, no_withdraw, supporting_armies 0

deployment_area_point    231.164, 226.473
deployment_area_point    319.880, 212.813
deployment_area_point    321.310, 535.466
deployment_area_point    228.794, 505.467

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unit            2, 264.355, 322.057, 95, formation_type square, formation_width 32.913
unit            3, 256.129, 299.940, 95, formation_type square, formation_width 31.296



army    england, 0, no_withdraw, supporting_armies 0

deployment_area_point    472.222, 507.571
deployment_area_point    356.308, 538.405
deployment_area_point    353.113, 225.287
deployment_area_point    433.807, 235.449

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unit            3, 431.349, 301.347, -90, formation_type square, formation_width 24.674
unit            4, 403.079, 257.107, -90, formation_type square, formation_width 23.972
unit            5, 400.888, 332.584, -95, formation_type square, formation_width 46.101

army    england, 1, no_withdraw, supporting_armies 0

deployment_area_point    -273.733, -251.744
deployment_area_point    -306.476, -71.799
deployment_area_point    121.611, -82.687
deployment_area_point    92.561, -231.302

unit            0, -101.130, -188.017, -6, formation_type square, formation_width 40.756
unit            1, -73.524, -180.306, -12, formation_type square, formation_width 19.305
unit            2, -57.544, -168.614, -2, formation_type square, formation_width 31.457
unit            3, -120.007, -215.392, -2, formation_type square, formation_width 45.536
unit            4, -62.658, -213.200, -1, formation_type square, formation_width 47.828
unit            5, -14.036, -215.076, -1, formation_type square, formation_width 44.382
unit            6, -155.541, -159.047, 4, formation_type square, formation_width 56.374
unit            7, 13.434, -167.823, 1, formation_type square, formation_width 37.385
unit            8, -118.966, -203.836, -4, formation_type square, formation_width 78.929
unit            9, 26.756, -221.986, -4, formation_type square, formation_width 37.577
unit            10, -58.086, -225.955, -5, formation_type square, formation_width 32.912

army    england, 2, no_withdraw, supporting_armies 0

deployment_area_point    -569.233, 712.155
deployment_area_point    -570.030, 457.311
deployment_area_point    -676.377, 465.621
deployment_area_point    -693.949, 686.404

unit            0, -669.908, 634.521, 86, formation_type square, formation_width 44.911
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unit            2, -659.819, 514.151, 78, formation_type square, formation_width 30.404
unit            3, -632.218, 587.289, 83, formation_type square, formation_width 44.446
unit            4, -624.799, 523.818, 84, formation_type square, formation_width 40.471
unit            5, -642.481, 522.504, 84, formation_type square, formation_width 42.502
unit            6, -649.435, 577.768, 84, formation_type square, formation_width 47.602



reinforcement    sicily, 3, no_withdraw, supporting_armies 0
reinforcement_time    0.267

deployment_area_point    2.203, 670.022
deployment_area_point    -244.965, 674.880
deployment_area_point    -236.265, 548.737
deployment_area_point    8.767, 521.995

unit            0, -66.914, 604.683, -175, formation_type square, formation_width 19.653
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unit            2, -88.801, 577.493, -178, formation_type square, formation_width 25.860
unit            3, -68.445, 589.741, 179, formation_type square, formation_width 26.126
unit            4, -135.657, 587.883, 179, formation_type square, formation_width 25.653
unit            5, -107.603, 588.161, -179, formation_type square, formation_width 19.111

reinforcement    sicily, 4, no_withdraw, supporting_armies 0
reinforcement_time    0.150

deployment_area_point    87.496, 315.208
deployment_area_point    -251.461, 337.669
deployment_area_point    -261.251, 522.402
deployment_area_point    62.578, 509.164

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unit            3, -76.114, 482.182, 173, formation_type square, formation_width 26.287
unit            4, -73.351, 491.810, 175, formation_type square, formation_width 54.106
unit            5, -82.623, 495.264, 176, formation_type square, formation_width 21.016
unit            6, -129.376, 492.758, 177, formation_type square, formation_width 17.410


reinforcement    milan, 0, no_withdraw, supporting_armies 0
reinforcement_time    0.400

deployment_area_point    -581.181, -690.496
deployment_area_point    -181.809, -624.606
deployment_area_point    -185.713, -343.747
deployment_area_point    -442.692, -323.091

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unit            3, -265.320, -550.672, 111, formation_type square, formation_width 38.528
unit            4, -416.166, -545.177, -6, formation_type square, formation_width 38.629
unit            5, -437.140, -512.183, -5, formation_type square, formation_width 47.569
unit            6, -323.684, -556.487, 46, formation_type square, formation_width 30.103
unit            7, -338.203, -526.751, -9, formation_type square, formation_width 30.530
unit            8, -443.484, -532.852, 98, formation_type square, formation_width 39.720
unit            9, -371.204, -568.278, 45, formation_type square, formation_width 24.831
unit            10, -256.618, -525.918, 0, formation_type square, formation_width 212.081


reinforcement    england, 3, no_withdraw, supporting_armies 0
reinforcement_time    0.150

deployment_area_point    73.183, -318.174
deployment_area_point    91.710, -263.666
deployment_area_point    -87.779, -267.732
deployment_area_point    -69.338, -340.023

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unit            2, 11.136, -284.901, -4, formation_type square, formation_width 14.555
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reinforcement    england, 4, no_withdraw, supporting_armies 0
reinforcement_time    0.017

deployment_area_point    180.690, -243.408
deployment_area_point    179.975, -214.575
deployment_area_point    129.376, -211.203
deployment_area_point    123.051, -236.170

unit            0, 139.080, -222.001, 9, formation_type square, formation_width 25.108


reinforcement    spain, 0, no_withdraw, supporting_armies 0
reinforcement_time    0.500

deployment_area_point    243.593, -680.225
deployment_area_point    197.581, -515.229
deployment_area_point    -72.842, -521.272
deployment_area_point    -83.113, -708.780

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unit            2, -3.259, -584.591, 3, formation_type square, formation_width 28.767
unit            3, 91.579, -587.539, 1, formation_type square, formation_width 31.338
unit            4, 38.788, -580.467, -3, formation_type square, formation_width 42.306
unit            5, 17.335, -592.543, 3, formation_type square, formation_width 27.539
unit            6, 71.835, -599.306, 0, formation_type square, formation_width 35.810
unit            7, 54.911, -607.127, 3, formation_type square, formation_width 20.899
unit            8, 46.560, -585.642, 8, formation_type square, formation_width 29.561


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; >>>> start of objectives scripting section <<<<

objectives

alliance 0
condition destroy_or_rout_enemy

alliance 1
condition destroy_or_rout_enemy

And here's editor_log.txt

Code:

Loading from file mods/Third_Age/data/world/maps/battle/custom/Battle_of_Pelennor/descr_battle.txt
Created faction sicily from file
    Creating army controlled by Captain Faramir at 0x18ef9800 from script
        Creating unit (General's Bodyguard) at 0x1a04b688
        Creating unit (Gondor Infantry) at 0x1ad60710
        Creating unit (Gondor Militia) at 0x1acb6270
        Creating unit (Archer Militia) at 0x224343c0
    Creating army controlled by Captain Denethor at 0x18ef9858 from script
        Creating unit (General's Bodyguard) at 0x1ac8fe38
        Creating unit (Gondor Spearmen) at 0x1ac90060
        Creating unit (Gondor Archers) at 0x1ac90288
        Creating unit (Gondor Archers) at 0x1ac9c530
        Creating unit (Gondor Militia) at 0x1ac9c758
        Creating unit (Gondor Militia) at 0x1ac9d308
    Creating army controlled by Captain Ecthelion at 0x18ef98b0 from script
        Creating unit (General's Bodyguard) at 0x1ac9e180
        Creating unit (Archer Militia) at 0x1ad5a210
        Creating unit (Gondor Spearmen) at 0x1ad5a438
        Creating unit (Gondor Militia) at 0x185cc0b8
    Creating army controlled by Captain Aragorn at 0x18ef9908 from script
        Creating unit (General's Bodyguard) at 0x185cc2e0
        Creating unit (Swan Knights) at 0x185cc508
        Creating unit (Citadel Guard) at 0x185cc730
        Creating unit (Gondor Archers) at 0x185cc958
        Creating unit (Gondor Archers) at 0x185ccb80
        Creating unit (Gondor Infantry) at 0x185ccda8
    Creating army controlled by Captain Amlaith at 0x18ef9960 from script
        Creating unit (General's Bodyguard) at 0x185ccfd0
        Creating unit (Gondor Infantry) at 0x185cd1f8
        Creating unit (Gondor Infantry) at 0x185cd420
        Creating unit (Gondor Spearmen) at 0x185cd648
        Creating unit (Gondor Spearmen) at 0x185cd870
        Creating unit (Gondor Archers) at 0x185cda98
        Creating unit (Gondor Archers) at 0x185cdcc0
Created faction milan from file
    Creating army controlled by Captain Theoden at 0x18ef99b8 from script
        Creating unit (Rohan Bodyguards) at 0x185cdee8
        Creating unit (Rohan Riders) at 0x185ce110
        Creating unit (Rohan Riders) at 0x185ce338
        Creating unit (Rohan Riders) at 0x185ce560
        Creating unit (Éored Heavy Lancers) at 0x185ce788
        Creating unit (Éored Heavy Lancers) at 0x185ce9b0
        Creating unit (Éored Horsearchers) at 0x185cebd8
        Creating unit (Éored Horsearchers) at 0x1ae4ab40
        Creating unit (Éored Horsearchers) at 0x1ae4ad68
        Creating unit (Royal Guard) at 0x1ae4af90
        Creating unit (Royal Guard) at 0x1ae4b1b8
Created faction england from file
    Creating army controlled by Captain Gorthak at 0x18ef9a10 from script
        Creating unit (Uruk Bodyguard) at 0x1ae4b3e0
        Creating unit (Orc Looters) at 0x1ae4b608
        Creating unit (Orc Looters) at 0x1ae4b830
        Creating unit (Orc Archers) at 0x1ae4ba58
        Creating unit (Orc Raiders) at 0x1ae4bc80
        Creating unit (Orc Maulers) at 0x1ae4bea8
    Creating army controlled by Captain Witch-King at 0x18ef9a68 from script
        Creating unit (Uruk Bodyguard) at 0x1ae4c0d0
        Creating unit (Dismounted Nazgul) at 0x1ae4c2f8
        Creating unit (Uruks) at 0x1ae4c520
        Creating unit (Orc Looters) at 0x1ae4c748
        Creating unit (Orc Looters) at 0x1ae4c970
        Creating unit (Orc Looters) at 0x1ae4cb98
        Creating unit (Orc Raiders) at 0x1ae4cdc0
        Creating unit (Orc Raiders) at 0x1ae4cfe8
        Creating unit (Orc Archers) at 0x1ae4d210
        Creating unit (Orc Archers) at 0x1ae4d438
        Creating unit (Uruk Archers) at 0x1ae4d660
    Creating army controlled by Captain Shagug at 0x18ef9ac0 from script
        Creating unit (Uruk Bodyguard) at 0x1ae4d888
        Creating unit (Orc Archers) at 0x1ae4dab0
        Creating unit (Orc Archers) at 0x1ae4dcd8
        Creating unit (Orc Band) at 0x1ae4df00
        Creating unit (Orc Band) at 0x1ae4e128
        Creating unit (Orc Raiders) at 0x1ae4e350
        Creating unit (Orc Raiders) at 0x1ae4e578
    Creating army controlled by Captain Gazbag at 0x18ef9b18 from script
        Creating unit (Uruk Bodyguard) at 0x1ae4e7a0
        Creating unit (Troll Catapult) at 0x1ad3b5b0
        Creating unit (Troll Catapult) at 0x1ad3b7d8
        Creating unit (Olog-Hai) at 0x1ad3ba00
    Creating army controlled by Captain Azog at 0x18ef9b70 from script
        Creating unit (Uruk Bodyguard) at 0x1ad3bc28
Created faction spain from file
    Creating army controlled by Captain Haashim at 0x18ef9bc8 from script
        Creating unit (Haradrim Spearmen) at 0x1ad3be50
        Creating unit (Haradrim Spearmen) at 0x1ad3c078
        Creating unit (Haradrim Spearmen) at 0x1ad3c2a0
        Creating unit (Haradrim Spearmen) at 0x1ad3c4c8
        Creating unit (Haradrim Archers) at 0x1ad3c6f0
        Creating unit (Southron Pikemen) at 0x1ad3c918
        Creating unit (Southron Pikemen) at 0x1ad3cb40
        Creating unit (Southron Warband) at 0x1ad3cd68
        Creating unit (Serpent Bodyguards) at 0x1ad3cf90
Adding unit (General's Bodyguard) at 0x1a04b688 to deployment area at 0x64eee28
Adding unit (Gondor Infantry) at 0x1ad60710 to deployment area at 0x64eee28
Adding unit (Gondor Militia) at 0x1acb6270 to deployment area at 0x64eee28
Adding unit (Archer Militia) at 0x224343c0 to deployment area at 0x64eee28
Adding unit (General's Bodyguard) at 0x1ac8fe38 to deployment area at 0x64eee64
Adding unit (Gondor Spearmen) at 0x1ac90060 to deployment area at 0x64eee64
Adding unit (Gondor Archers) at 0x1ac90288 to deployment area at 0x64eee64
Adding unit (Gondor Archers) at 0x1ac9c530 to deployment area at 0x64eee64
Adding unit (Gondor Militia) at 0x1ac9c758 to deployment area at 0x64eee64
Adding unit (Gondor Militia) at 0x1ac9d308 to deployment area at 0x64eee64
Adding unit (General's Bodyguard) at 0x1ac9e180 to deployment area at 0x64eeea0
Adding unit (Archer Militia) at 0x1ad5a210 to deployment area at 0x64eeea0
Adding unit (Gondor Spearmen) at 0x1ad5a438 to deployment area at 0x64eeea0
Adding unit (Gondor Militia) at 0x185cc0b8 to deployment area at 0x64eeea0
Adding unit (Uruk Bodyguard) at 0x1ae4b3e0 to deployment area at 0x64eeedc
Adding unit (Orc Looters) at 0x1ae4b608 to deployment area at 0x64eeedc
Adding unit (Orc Looters) at 0x1ae4b830 to deployment area at 0x64eeedc
Adding unit (Orc Archers) at 0x1ae4ba58 to deployment area at 0x64eeedc
Adding unit (Orc Raiders) at 0x1ae4bc80 to deployment area at 0x64eeedc
Adding unit (Orc Maulers) at 0x1ae4bea8 to deployment area at 0x64eeedc
Adding unit (Uruk Bodyguard) at 0x1ae4c0d0 to deployment area at 0x64eef18
Adding unit (Dismounted Nazgul) at 0x1ae4c2f8 to deployment area at 0x64eef18
Adding unit (Uruks) at 0x1ae4c520 to deployment area at 0x64eef18
Adding unit (Orc Looters) at 0x1ae4c748 to deployment area at 0x64eef18
Adding unit (Orc Looters) at 0x1ae4c970 to deployment area at 0x64eef18
Adding unit (Orc Looters) at 0x1ae4cb98 to deployment area at 0x64eef18
Adding unit (Orc Raiders) at 0x1ae4cdc0 to deployment area at 0x64eef18
Adding unit (Orc Raiders) at 0x1ae4cfe8 to deployment area at 0x64eef18
Adding unit (Orc Archers) at 0x1ae4d210 to deployment area at 0x64eef18
Adding unit (Orc Archers) at 0x1ae4d438 to deployment area at 0x64eef18
Adding unit (Uruk Archers) at 0x1ae4d660 to deployment area at 0x64eef18
Adding unit (Uruk Bodyguard) at 0x1ae4d888 to deployment area at 0x64eef54
Adding unit (Orc Archers) at 0x1ae4dab0 to deployment area at 0x64eef54
Adding unit (Orc Archers) at 0x1ae4dcd8 to deployment area at 0x64eef54
Adding unit (Orc Band) at 0x1ae4df00 to deployment area at 0x64eef54
Adding unit (Orc Band) at 0x1ae4e128 to deployment area at 0x64eef54
Adding unit (Orc Raiders) at 0x1ae4e350 to deployment area at 0x64eef54
Adding unit (Orc Raiders) at 0x1ae4e578 to deployment area at 0x64eef54
Adding unit (Uruk Bodyguard) at 0x1ad3bc28 to deployment area at 0x64eef90
Adding unit (General's Bodyguard) at 0x185cc2e0 to deployment area at 0x64eefcc
Adding unit (Swan Knights) at 0x185cc508 to deployment area at 0x64eefcc
Adding unit (Citadel Guard) at 0x185cc730 to deployment area at 0x64eefcc
Adding unit (Gondor Archers) at 0x185cc958 to deployment area at 0x64eefcc
Adding unit (Gondor Archers) at 0x185ccb80 to deployment area at 0x64eefcc
Adding unit (Gondor Infantry) at 0x185ccda8 to deployment area at 0x64eefcc
Adding unit (General's Bodyguard) at 0x185ccfd0 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d3c8
Adding unit (Gondor Infantry) at 0x185cd1f8 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d3c8
Adding unit (Gondor Infantry) at 0x185cd420 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d3c8
Adding unit (Gondor Spearmen) at 0x185cd648 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d3c8
Adding unit (Gondor Spearmen) at 0x185cd870 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d3c8
Adding unit (Gondor Archers) at 0x185cda98 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d3c8
Adding unit (Gondor Archers) at 0x185cdcc0 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d3c8
Adding unit (Rohan Bodyguards) at 0x185cdee8 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d404
Adding unit (Rohan Riders) at 0x185ce110 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d404
Adding unit (Rohan Riders) at 0x185ce338 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d404
Adding unit (Rohan Riders) at 0x185ce560 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d404
Adding unit (Éored Heavy Lancers) at 0x185ce788 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d404
Adding unit (Éored Heavy Lancers) at 0x185ce9b0 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d404
Adding unit (Éored Horsearchers) at 0x185cebd8 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d404
Adding unit (Éored Horsearchers) at 0x1ae4ab40 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d404
Adding unit (Éored Horsearchers) at 0x1ae4ad68 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d404
Adding unit (Royal Guard) at 0x1ae4af90 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d404
Adding unit (Royal Guard) at 0x1ae4b1b8 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d404
Adding unit (Uruk Bodyguard) at 0x1ae4e7a0 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d440
Adding unit (Troll Catapult) at 0x1ad3b5b0 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d440
Adding unit (Troll Catapult) at 0x1ad3b7d8 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d440
Adding unit (Olog-Hai) at 0x1ad3ba00 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d440
Adding unit (Haradrim Spearmen) at 0x1ad3be50 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d47c
Adding unit (Haradrim Spearmen) at 0x1ad3c078 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d47c
Adding unit (Haradrim Spearmen) at 0x1ad3c2a0 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d47c
Adding unit (Haradrim Spearmen) at 0x1ad3c4c8 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d47c
Adding unit (Haradrim Archers) at 0x1ad3c6f0 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d47c
Adding unit (Southron Pikemen) at 0x1ad3c918 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d47c
Adding unit (Southron Pikemen) at 0x1ad3cb40 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d47c
Adding unit (Southron Warband) at 0x1ad3cd68 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d47c
Adding unit (Serpent Bodyguards) at 0x1ad3cf90 to deployment area at 0x1aa3d47c
Load finished **************************

Btw , after i deleted all content from editor_log , and i reopen it after the crash , it's empty

**jản** · July 18, 2009, 06:40 AM

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okay i could not see anything strange in your .txt and log file.

so just upload it that i can take a look at it - i presume the
problem with the reinforcemets is A the deployment and B the
num of supporting armies as well as the army ident.

but i gonna take a look at it if you want. i pretty much
sucked at alliances at the start but after i tried everything
possible both in the editor in in the battle_descr i can
surly figure something out that allows you to have a lot of
supporting and reinforcing armies.

and please list them here like

alliance 1: gondor1 (start), rohan1 (start) gondor2 (reinf.), gondor3 (reinf.), rohan2 (reinf.)
alliance 2: ...
alliance 3: ...

///

**Killerbee** · July 18, 2009, 06:47 AM

Alright , it's in attachement .. you gotta unzip it in your .../battle/custom folder , but i assule you already knew that

**jản** · July 18, 2009, 07:15 AM

problem number one - you can have max 8 armies on the battleground (makes 160 units)
(it worked for mee after i deleted some armeis that i had 4 vs. 4)

problem number two - notice that all armies marked as reinforcements are simply units that will be added when they arrive to the players unit list below during the game

~~~

so you have to decide which amries to disband.

**Killerbee** · July 18, 2009, 11:55 AM

Nvm , i think i know how to . looking at the vanilla siege battle , this is how it looked like in descr_battle :

Code:

faction    moors
settlement castle
{
    level city
    tile 69 78

    year_founded 1
    fortification 0 middle_eastern, walls 0 towers 2 gates 2 gate_defences 1
    population 4500
    plan_set default_set
    faction_creator moors
package_path settlements/Middle_Eastern/Castles/Large_castle/Middle_Eastern_large_castle_A.world
}
character    Mohamed, general, male, age 27, x 69, y 78 
army
unit        ME Late Bodyguard                soldiers 30 exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Urban Militia                soldiers 60 exp 4 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Urban Militia                soldiers 60 exp 4 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Urban Militia                soldiers 60 exp 4 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Dismounted Arab Cavalry                soldiers 60 exp 4 armour 2 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Dismounted Arab Cavalry                soldiers 60 exp 4 armour 2 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Dismounted Arab Cavalry                soldiers 60 exp 4 armour 2 weapon_lvl 1
unit        ME Crossbow Militia                soldiers 60 exp 4 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        ME Crossbow Militia                soldiers 60 exp 4 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        ME Crossbow Militia                soldiers 60 exp 4 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        ME Crossbow Militia                soldiers 60 exp 4 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        ME Trebuchet                soldiers 20 exp 4 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        ME Trebuchet                soldiers 20 exp 4 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        ME Trebuchet                soldiers 20 exp 4 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Sudanese Javelinmen                soldiers 80 exp 5 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Dismounted Arab Cavalry                soldiers 60 exp 4 armour 2 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Granadine Lancers                soldiers 50 exp 5 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Granadine Lancers                soldiers 50 exp 5 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Urban Militia                soldiers 100 exp 5 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Urban Militia                soldiers 60 exp 6 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1

**axnsan** · July 18, 2009, 12:00 PM

If you copy only what you underlined you fail big time. You need to copy from "settlement castle.."

**Killerbee** · July 18, 2009, 12:04 PM

Here's what i've got so far :

Code:

faction    sicily
settlement castle
{
    level fortress
    tile 286 23

    year_founded 1
    fortification 5 north_european, walls 0 towers 2 gates 2 gate_defences 1
    population 4500
    plan_set default_set
    faction_creator sicily
package_path settlements/north_european/Castles/Large_castle/north_european_fortress_A.world
}
character    Ecthelion, named character, male, age 30, x 286, y 23 portrait Ecthelion
army
unit        Gondor Bodyguard                soldiers 16 exp 4 armour 2 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Spearmen                soldiers 65 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Spearmen                soldiers 65 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Infantry                soldiers 55 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Archers                soldiers 55 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1
unit        Gondor Archers                soldiers 55 exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1

blahblah ..
}

If you copy only what you underlined you fail big time. You need to copy from "settlement castle.."

You might not've noticed , but i do have modding experience

I'm not really sure : Is 'fortress' a valid 'level' ?

level fortress

**axnsan** · July 18, 2009, 12:06 PM

no

settlement castle

+

level large_city

=

citadel

Btw, theres no .... large_castle/north_european_fortres

**Killerbee** · July 18, 2009, 12:08 PM

Yea , hold on , i'm still unpacking to follow the path

So i should do :

settlement castle

+

level city

To get a fortress ?

**axnsan** · July 18, 2009, 12:10 PM

Yes. But why isn't it a citadel

?

And also, north_european is not a culture. northern_european is

**axnsan** · July 18, 2009, 12:14 PM

I don't get it why the

I'm getting a crash

Code:

faction	sicily
settlement castle
{
	level large_city
	tile 286 23

	year_founded 1
	fortification 0 northern_european, walls 0 towers 2 gates 2 gate_defences 1
	population 4500
	plan_set default_set
	faction_creator sicily
package_path settlements/north_european/castles/fortress/north_european_fortress_a.world
}
character	Ecthelion, named character, male, age 30, x 286, y 23 portrait Ecthelion
army

etc....

**Killerbee** · July 18, 2009, 12:51 PM

Anyway

You have some problems there axnsan , perhaps this pic can help you :

This is how i put up my citadel/fortress

EDIT : meh , i give up

This is the last thing i tried .

Code:

settlement castle
{
    level large_city
    tile 286 23

    year_founded 1
    fortification 5 northern_european, walls 3 towers 3 gates 3 gate_defences 1
    population 4500
    plan_set default_set
    faction_creator sicily
package_path settlements/north_european/castles/fortress/north_european_fortress_a.world
}

I think this line is the problem

fortification 5 northern_european, walls 3 towers 3 gates 3 gate_defences 1

**Killerbee** · July 18, 2009, 01:40 PM

Hey jan , i thought you might find this interesting :

Code:

settlement castle
{
    level large_city
    tile 286 23

    year_founded 1
    fortification 5 northern_european, walls 3 towers 3 gates 3 gate_defences 1
    population 4500
    plan_set default_set
    faction_creator sicily
package_path settlements/north_european/castles/fortress/north_european_fortress_a.world

You need to add this under your 'faction milan' line in descr_battle , so it looks like this :
(milan is rohan in-game)

Code:

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
; >>>> start of factions section <<<<

faction    milan
settlement castle
{
    level large_city
    tile 286 23

    year_founded 1
    fortification 5 northern_european, walls 3 towers 3 gates 3 gate_defences 1
    population 4500
    plan_set default_set
    faction_creator milan
package_path settlements/north_european/castles/fortress/north_european_fortress_a.world
}
character    Theoden, named character, blahblah
army
unit        yourunit                soldiers 16 exp 4 armour 2 weapon_lvl 1

}

<other units>

Now , we (axnsan and i) haven't gotten it to work yet , but i think we're very close . Here's what we know/think so far :

Code:

settlement castle
{
    level large_city
    tile 286 23

    year_founded 1
    fortification 5 northern_european, walls 3 towers 3 gates 3 gate_defences 1
    population 4500
    plan_set default_set
    faction_creator milan
package_path settlements/north_european/castles/fortress/north_european_fortress_a.world
}

Settlement	Followed by either 'city' or 'castle'
tile	wich tile the whole battle is being fought . Same as all armies
level	Followed by : town , large_town , city , large_city
year_founded	Not important , should match the founded year as you said in the editor though
fortification	level of fortification . I suppose it should match the level of fortification like in the editor
northern_european	Not sure bout this one . i think the culture of the city , but in TATW , the editor only has : men , dwarven , elvish , mesoamerican (these aren't the correct names !)
walls	don't know , could be either the level of the walls , or the amount of walls in the city
towers	don't know . i think this one defines wether it's arrow towers , balista towers , or the other one . I also suspect 0 = arrow tower , 1 = other tower , 2 = ballista tower . Not sure though
gates	don't know . I suspect the level of the gates (how strong it is)
gate_defences	don't know . Might have something to do with boiling oil , perhaps ?
population	population of the city . Not important i think
faction_creator	who made the city . i suppose it should be the same as the faction who owns it in the battle
package_path	should be following the path to the custom city you chose when you placed it with the battle editor

Alright , that's pretty much it . If you found a way to complete it or got it to work , please tell either me , or axnsan

Greats,
KingTheoden1

**axnsan** · July 18, 2009, 01:50 PM

He already knows that. And it won't wrok because his settlement is a fort.

And for the towers -

0 - watchtower ( sits and watches TV )
1 - arrow tower
2 - ballista tower
3 - cannon tower

**jản** · July 18, 2009, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by axnsan

Space

And don't tell me it doesn't work, because it does

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

/brag

the problem with th "named character" is that reinforcements will not be
added to the actual units when they are a named character. so eomer has
to be a gerneral - and generals cant get a portrait (but eomer doesn't
have one anyway)

summary:

character Theoden, general, male, age 62, x 343, y 302, portrait Theoden
traits GoodCommander 3

results: General Theoden

~~~

character Theoden, named character, male, age 62, x 343, y 302, portrait Theoden
traits GoodCommander 3

results: Theoden

~~~

character Theoden, named character, male, heir, age 62, x 343, y 302, portrait Theoden
traits GoodCommander 3

results: Lord Theoden

~~~

character Theoden, named character, male, leader, age 62, x 343, y 302, portrait Theoden
traits GoodCommander 3

results: King Theoden
or results: Steward Theoden (if playing Gondor) > adaptable to other factions leader titles

~~~

notice:

i finally solved the reinforcement problem with that becasue as i mentioned:

> if you want to add the reinforcements to your playable garrison you have to use a "general" as reinforcements
> if you want the reinforcements to fight on their own being AI controlled you have to use a "named character" as reinforcements

reminder:

adding a army as a reinforcement will make them unplayable but they fight in an offensive style when they are spawned.
(you can change the "reinforcement_time" to 0.001 - this will result a spawn two seconds after the battle start)

~~~
~~~
~~~

okay than the problem with the .world model for te fortress.
just take a look in the TATW files and will notice that the locations
of the files are different:

for the stone forts:

\Mediewal II - Total War\mods\Third_Age\data\settlements\north_european\ambient_settlements\

for all other settlements (like castles and citadels):

\Mediewal II - Total War\mods\Third_Age\data\models_strat\residences

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