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    So I just chose a topic from our old historical discussion threads list and picked this one out.

    I'm actually very unfamiliar with this so maybe someone with knowledge on this could start us off by giving us a little background. I think it had to do something with the British and French fighting each other... and Joan of Arc; but that's pretty much all I know LOL.

    and some territorial changes were made... but that's as far as I know
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    Copy from Wiki to get a discussion started. (will post my thoughts later)

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    The Hundred Years' War (French: Guerre de Cent Ans) was a prolonged conflict lasting from 1337 to 1453 between two royal houses for the French throne, which was vacant with the extinction of the senior Capetian line of French kings. The two primary contenders were the House of Valois and the House of Plantagenet, also known as the House of Anjou. The House of Valois claimed the title of King of France, while the Plantagenets from England claimed to be Kings of France and England. Plantagenet Kings were the 12th century rulers of the Kingdom of England, and had their roots in the French regions of Anjou and Normandy. French soldiers fought on both sides, with Burgundy and Aquitaine providing notable support for the Plantagenet side.

    The conflict lasted 116 years but was punctuated by several periods of peace, before it finally ended in the expulsion of the Plantagenets from France (except the Pale of Calais). The war was a victory for the house of Valois, who succeeded in recovering the Plantagenet gains made initially and expelling them from the majority of France by the 1450s.

    The war was in fact a series of conflicts and is commonly divided into three or four phases: the Edwardian War (1337–1360), the Caroline War (1369–1389), the Lancastrian War (1415–1429), and the slow decline of English fortunes after the appearance of Joan of Arc (1412–1431). Several other contemporary European conflicts were directly related to the conflict between England and France: the Breton War of Succession, the Castilian Civil War, and the War of the Two Peters. The term "Hundred Years' War" was a later term invented by historians to describe the series of events.

    The war owes its historical significance to a number of factors. Though primarily a dynastic conflict, the war gave impetus to ideas of both French and English nationality. Militarily, it saw the introduction of new weapons and tactics, which eroded the older system of feudal armies dominated by heavy cavalry. The first standing armies in Western Europe since the time of the Western Roman Empire were introduced for the war, thus changing the role of the peasantry. For all this, as well as for its long duration, it is often viewed as one of the most significant conflicts in the history of medieval warfare. In France, the English invasion, civil wars, deadly epidemics, famines and marauding mercenary armies turned to banditry reduced the population by two-thirds. Shorn of its Continental possessions, England was left an island nation, a fact which profoundly affected its outlook and development for more than 500 years.
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    Hmmm... So... If the Crown of France was in contention? Yet the house of valois was "french" and the plantagenets were "english". Did this resort down to which individiual Lords or Nobles of France support which house? Rather than France v England so to speak?

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    didn't the Plantagenets come from a French line though? the Court of Anjou?

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    Yeah but they were Kings of England at the time correct? So how did they lose if they had the whole of England behind them and a portion of France??

    Following a period of civil wars and unrest in England known as The Anarchy (1135–1154), the Anglo-Norman dynasty was succeeded by the Angevin Kings. At the height of power the Angevins controlled Normandy and England, along with Maine, Anjou, Touraine, Poitou, Gascony, Saintonge, and Aquitaine. The King of England directly ruled more French territory than the King of France himself. This situation – where the Angevin kings owed vassalage to a ruler who was de facto much weaker – was a cause of continual conflict. Such assemblage of lands is sometimes known as the Angevin Empire.

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    well... here's a map of how things changed during Hundred Years' War

    then we can make our observations from here

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    Arh nice map... So basically this war is what expelled English from France and basically formed the France and England we know today.

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    not how we know it today... actually, I'm not really sure... but you can see that up to 1429... England controls a considerable amount of northern France... which was soon lost as the French Army captured town after town then...

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    Yeah its quite staggering lol... If only they had one... Then the British empire would have been epic lol. Even more epic than it actually was....

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    one what? one region? town? or do you mean "won"?
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    lol.. yeah it would've been pretty epic... but some of the loyals might get pretty mad...

    and this is also the war where the story of Joan of Arc came to be...

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    Lol yeah won... I just type away not think what Ive actually typed lol.

    Yeah I read that wiki article... Joan of Arc kinda seems overated... She didnt even do much from what I gathered.

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    lol nearly FAIL topic...

    you guys can close this it's the 11th

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    We decided to make discussions open ended. Forgot allready?

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    lol... ya... oh well...

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