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    Medieval 2: Total War Unit Guide

    Version 2.0
    Author: Forlornhope. aka Trueforlornhope, Forlornhop3

    Welcome to my guide for Medieval 2: Total War. This guide covers every unit in M2TW, and how to use them, tactics for using each class of unit and how to defeat them. This is the first version of this guide and will probably have quite a few errors. This guide will eventually encompass the entire M2TW series including all expansions. Please pm me, Forlornhope. (with a period) to report errors and give suggestions. All fixes and corrections will be credited.

    Glossary

    CA: Creative Assembly, the development team that created the Total War series.

    Counter Fire: Fire directed at missile units by a missile unit, as most missile units themselves have poor armour and are easy prey for missiles.

    Flank
    : The sides of a unit. Charging into the flank is much, much more effective than charging directly into the front. It is also a verb meaning to flank a unit i.e. going around their side.

    Focus fire
    : Targeting all missiles at a particular unit, or group of units to weaken them

    HA: Horse Archers

    Line Infantry
    : This is a generic term for any infantry than can take and hold the enemy and fight them in melee, thus forming your battle line. It also means troops youíll use to form the bulk of your army and thus your line. Spearmen and swordsmen are line infantry. Line infantry are usually well armed and armored as they will be in the middle of the fighting. They will often take the most casualties as well.

    M2TW
    : Medieval 2: Total War

    MTW: Medieval: Total War, the second game in the series. M2TW is a remake of this game.

    RTW: Rome: Total War, the previous game in the series

    Skirmish: A unit firing missiles and staying out of melee. Skirmish mode, which all missile units have makes them run back to avoid melee if the enemy gets close. Units with javelins are usually called skirmishers.

    TWC
    : Total War Centre a cool forum and TW website where I host this guide and Iím a member of.
    Differences between RTW and M2TW

    Despite the obvious changes in mechanics form Roman times to medieval times, RTW and M2TW share the same engine, as M2: TWís engine is a heavily modified Rome one. Thus there are some hangovers from Rome, but there are things that are noticeably different even if base mechanics are the same.

    Battle speed: The most immediately noticeable thing in M2TWís battles, is that they are much slower. Units move much more slowly than RTW and tire faster. Melee is slower and because units have much higher morale it takes a while for the winner to be decided. There is allot more blocking in M2TW meaning it takes longer for a solider to kill his enemy and soldiers stagger and are realistically stunned from hits they failed to block that didnít kill them, slowing melee down. Cavalry is also a lot slower and their charge is really toned down this time around

    Impetuous trait: Some units in M2TW are impetuous. This means they generally have good morale and the death of a general doesnít affect their morale as much, only elite troops have the impetuous trait with a few exceptions. You can rely on these units. The trait can make them charge without orders however. If you are moving them past a melee, say to flank, sometimes youíll see them just charge into the melee even when you didnít tell them to. This is caused by the impertutious trait and itís most common with elite units like knights.

    Disciplined
    : Some units, usually tough elite ones are disciplined. This means they resist morale shocks; like the general dying or an attack in the rear better losing less morale when these things occur and are therefore much more stable units. Disciplined troops will take allot more to rout than normal ones and are very good units to have.

    Death animations
    : In M2TW a unitís solider count goes down after the dying man has finished his death animation. Until then the causality doesnít affect morale. This is different to Rome where as soon as a man died before he even hit the ground he was considered dead with the effects that went with it. This means that unit may take a second or two more to rout or otherwise react to something.

    Morale: In M2TW units take much longer to rout. Elite units have very high morale and the last ten or so men in a unit will still sometimes fight to the death. Even weak units like Spear Militia have good morale and wont rout until half the unit is dead, if they are just in a normal melee. Even units like Peasant Archers have quite good morale compared to say RTW. This is considered a straight fight however. Situations like being flanked and outnumbered and especially shot by gunpowder will still greatly affect a unitís morale, but causalities and losing a melee affect it much less.

    More effective fodder: Because of the raised morale, kills by missiles besides fire or gunpowder have little effect on morale if the unit isnít in melee. A unit of Spear Militia being killed by arrows will stand their ground as long as the archers stay back until about 20 guys are left, meaning the enemy will have used up plenty of arrows. Using cheap units as fodder is much more effective this time around. This is rendered mostly ineffective by gunpowder however, as being hit by gunpowder applies a huge morale penalty and that along with some other small penalty like casualties will be enough to rout the unit.

    Less Armor
    : Compared to RTW there are far more unarmoured or lightly armoured troops, especially early in the campaign. Plan accordingly.

    General unit notes

    Combat animations

    A large change in m2tw is the use of proper combat animations and the fact that a solider must hit is enemy with the animation of a sword swing or whatever to actually stagger or kill him There are also new animations for units getting hit but not killed, like staggers or stumbling. While these animations are happening a unit cannot block. This leads to allot of blocking but the upshot of this is units that are seriously outnumbered will spend allot of time getting hit and staggered making it harder for them to hit back against the enemies. A unit of knights getting attacked by twice the number of peasants will have a hard time killing them quickly as they will be getting hit so often and staggered unless they block a hit. Hits that are blocked sometimes cause the blocker to counter attack with a swing that often kills the attacker. While the knights are attacking they also can not block, so while they are busy hitting somebody, they may be hit and killed themselves. This looks funny sometimes, as youíll see a solider start a death animation then get killed during it and his victim still die.

    To take advantage of this you should move your melee units in huge mobs or send in weaker units along with your stronger ones. If you send in say peasants and knights the peasants will attack and stagger enemies giving the knights a chance to finish them off without risk and the enemies will attack the peasants and leave themselves open to attack from your knights. With massed melee troops like highlander axemen you can hit so often the enemy wonít be able to do much before dying if you have enough. This is an important tactic to grasp in m2tw and a big change from RTW.


    Force melee
    : If you are using a unit with missiles, like archers or Javelinmen, holding alt and right clocking on an enemy unit will force them to charge straight into melee. This is useful for forcing archers to stop skirmishing and fight back.

    Unit Ranges
    : Archers: 120 Horse Archers: 120 Crossbows: 120 Javelins: (foot and mounted) 55 Naffatun: 40 Bombard: 325 Grand Bombard: 375 Ribault: 150 Culverin: 425 Mortar: 300 Cannon: 380 Serpentine: 450 Basilisk: 450 Ballista: 180 Catapult: 200 Trebuchet: 280

    Unit ammunition
    : Archers: 30 Crossbows: 30 Javelins: 8 Naffatun: 5 Bombard: 30 Serpentine: 36 Elephant cannon: 20 Basilisk: 30 Ribault: 108 Culverin: 30 Cannon: 30 Catapult: 30 Trebuchet: 30 Ballista: 50

    Negative morale effects

    Casualties: None, to moderate, depending on number. Less effect on morale than losing a battle. If a unit has taken a lot of casualties, but starts winning a melee they will often stay and fight. This has far less of an effect on impertutious units like knights.

    Flank attack: Moderate. Getting hit in the flank will cause quite a lot of casualties, so this can rout lesser units

    Rear attack: High. Getting hit in the rear will cause a truckload of casualties and, coupled with the penalty for the rear attack will insta-rout even tough units.

    General/Captain death: High, to moderate depending on discipline. The general dying is how many a battle will end and become a slaughterfest, the generalís death has a huge effect on morale at first, often causing a mass rout; the effect is largest close to the general and radiates out losing intensity, at the time of his death. You could call it a shock effect and then that effect slowly decreases over time till it affects units to a much lesser degree, if they havenít routed off the field yet that is.

    Routing friends: Small. If a unit can see friendly units routing, they will take a morale drop tho itís low.

    Gunpowder weapons: Extreme. Gunpowder has to cause a causality in the unit for it to affect morale but it has a high effect: a few gunpowder hits will rout even the steadiest units like knights along with the penalty for causalities. Its morale crushing effect is one of gunpowderís biggest advantages.

    Positive morale effects

    Proximity to General: Moderate to very high. Units close to your general receive a morale bonus, depending on how good a general he is and what traits he has, you can tell because their morale state will say (Sprits lifted by the generalís encouragements). Thus it is good to keep the general close behind fighting units, especially with low morale troops.

    Winning a melee: Moderate. Just the opposite to losing a melee, being on the winning side of an ongoing melee will encourage your troops to keep fighting.

    Routing enemies: Moderate. If a unit can see routing enemy units they will be happy and get a morale bonus.

    General's Rally: High. The generals rally special ability greatly raises nearby unit morale for about 30 seconds and can put units from wavering to steady.

    Ready Status: If a unit is stationary and an enemy comes close enough, youíll see an animation where the unit will prepare, they might raise their swords/spears and shields or skirmishers will raise their javelins, ready to throw them, if they are not on fire at will. The unitís state will change from ďIdleĒ to ďReadyĒ when this happens. In this state, units resist charges better and you should always try to have your troops stationary if youíre going to receive a cavalry charge with units not suited to it, like swordsmen, if you arenít counter charging.

    Abilities

    Loose Formation

    Spread out men! We might be able to live longer that way!

    A unit in loose formation spreads out into a looser formation, with space between each solider. This helps the unit resist missiles, as the space in the formation means there is a chance missiles may harmlessly hit the ground between men instead of hitting one of your soldiers. The formation doesnít actually have any hard coded effects, like raising defence or the like it simply works on a physical level: by reducing the chance a missile will hit one of your soldiers. The formation is useless in melee however as men tend get into melee slower and the charge has less people impacting. The unit is also very vulnerable to cavalry charges as the unit seems to lack mass and allows cavalry to ride right into their ranks and rip them up and flank individual soldiers. Only use this formation when youíre under fire. Loose formation is also good for fodder - units stood around solely to absorb missiles - to allow them to survive just that little bit longer. It comes in handy also for light cavalry trying to catch horse archers, as they can cover more area and it makes it easier to catch the horse archers and force them to commit to melee.

    Circle and shoot

    Ashes, ashes, they all fall down!

    This formation is allot like the Cantabrian Circle from RTW. Just like that formation the cavalry ride around in a small circle in front of the enemy, launching their missiles, their constant movement limiting damage of incoming missiles and enabling them to skirmish back quickly as they are already moving. While the chief users of this formation are horse archers, in M2TW javelin cavalry are very effective. In M2TWthey pierce armour and with the formationís quick skirmishing and constant fire they can decimate heavy infantry and avoid covering archer fire. This is especially effective against two handed weapon units, as their lack of a shield makes them easy to hit.

    Fire arrows

    Death has never been so pretty.

    Fire arrows are an ability of all shortbow and longbow archers. Crossbowmen do not have this ability, nor do Horse Archers (they have circle and shoot, crossbows have none) Fire arrows can set fire to siege equipment and lower morale of units hit by them, but the effect is low unless their morale has already been lowered by other factors. Fire arrows cannot actually be aimed at siege weapons themselves, so just shoot at the crew and your arrows should hit the siege weapons as well. A siege weapon hit by a fire arrow has a chance to be set on fire making it unusable by its crew and destroying it when its damage reaches 100% Fire arrows fire much more slowly than normal arrows. Normal arrows take about 5 seconds to fire from the time the archer starts nocking the arrow. Fire arrows take 15 seconds which is much slower. If you are trying to kill men use normal arrows as you can fire more of them in less time. If you are trying to get a unit to rout, use fire arrows.

    Spearwall

    When spearwall works it can be effectiveÖunfortunately it doesnít often.

    The spearwall is a formation used by pikemen and some polearms. It causes the unit to tighten up and the first three ranks to extend their polearms forward, creating a wall of pointy death. This is meant to be effective against cavalry and work as a wall against infantry much like a phalanx. Unfortunately it is buggy and often when an enemy touches the pikewall the pikemen will often switch to their swords running your defense against cavalry and making themselves very vulnerable; as polearms/pikemen do not have shields they die quite quickly in melee. When the spearwall works though, it will stop cavalry and their charge momentum dead, killing many of them and preventing them from attacking. When using a spearwall if you use rightclick+drag to make a formation with multiple units selected, you will notice there are gaps between your units. This makes it easy for enemies to sneak in though the pikewall and attack the pikemen in melee. If you can it is more effective to drag each unitís formation out making sure they touch with no gaps. This will form a solid wall of pikes with nowhere for enemies to get in until the unit suffers bugs or enough pikemen die to weaken the wall.

    Schiltrom

    Also known as artillery magnets.

    A schiltrom is a tight round formation where spearmen arrange themselves in a circle, spears pointing outwards. This lets them protect themselves from all directions at once and they cannot be flanked. This is a useful formation for defensive situations where you have to hold an open area. Since the unit is facing all directions soldiers will not move to fight enemies unless they are directly near them, so the unit cannot attack as effectively as it could if it was in standard formation as only some of the unit will be in combat as the rest stay in formation. Schiltrom is a very specialist formation; it is really only good when defending an immobile position, like a cities central plaza or when you are constantly being attacked from all directions. In standard battles there is no reason to use schiltrom as it will just lessen your unitís capacity to attack, as ideally you shouldnít be getting flanked at all. While in this formation the unit can march, but not run and while moving they do not have their weapons ready, so make sure to halt them quickly, as they need a second to redress the formation after halting. Most spearmen can form schiltrom.

    Wedge Formation

    If you want to make your charge completely impotent, wedge is for you!

    A wedge is a narrow triangle formation that can be formed by heavy cavalry. The leader of the unit is placed on the point of the triangle so he will be first into the enemy. This is not a good idea with captain let units, as the captain will be first into the enemy and at risk of being killed. A wedge formation is meant to increase a units ability to charge but it doesnít matter because with a wedge only a few men hit with their charge bonus and the men at the back are wasted, as less men get into the killing phase of the charge and so less enemy die on the charge. It also results in the men at the front being isolated from the rest of the unit and usually killed. The men at the back also take a while to get into melee because of the depth of the formation so the unit canít focus its attacks properly and fights very infectively. Given all this it is not worth using wedge at all, just stick to standard formation.


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    Spearmen

    And take heart men, for we have sharper pointy things than them! Oh yes! Much sharper!

    Spearmen are the backbone of almost all M2TWarmies. They are cheap and very easily trained; the early ones need almost no buildings in castles and cities, as they can be trained in both. There are a lot of different types and they are cheap. Spearmen are used to add bulk, fight the enemy, especially other spearmen, hold them in place so you can flank and protect archers as a meat shield while the archers shoot the enemy. They are especially useful for crossbowmen and gunpowder infantry as these units need to stay still to have time to shoot. Spearmen arenít the best killers: they never really cut their way through the enemy quickly unless they are facing cavalry and even then they will take a little while. They do kill but they tend to be more defensive; able to stay alive in melee and keep the enemy occupied, making them the best troops for holding units so you can flank them. They also are great for receiving charges as spearmen resist charges much, much better than other infantry and will take far fewer losses. You should make loads and loads of spearmen: early on your entire army will consist of spearmen, archers maybe some light cavalry and a general so get used to using them. Spearmen are effective against cavalry as they get a bonus and even the starting Spear Militia can wreck generalís bodyguards if there is enough, as generals are far weaker than in previous games. You always need spearmen and should have at least 4 units of them in any army. Later on you can phase some out for swordsmen when you can make them quickly, but you should always have some spears

    Spearmen get +8 attack vs. Cavalry.

    Defeating spearmen

    Spearmen are slow as they are infantry, usually lightly armoured or unarmoured and poor against infantry without help. The best way to kill off spearmen is to attack them with swordsmen or axemen. Both these troops are good against infantry and the spears low attack and poorness against infantry means you can cut them up very easily unless they are elite spears, who should still suffer against your troops. Their usual lack of armour makes massed missile fire effective against them, especially against the Moors, as they have allot of unarmoured spearmen who will die very quickly. Crossbows are also effective. Spearmen tend to have average morale so a cavalry charge into their rear will either rout them or kill allot. Spearmen are very common units so youíll be fighting allot of them.

    Armoured Sergeants
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 14 Armour: 5 Cost: 540 Upkeep: 155
    Factions: Milan, HRE, England, Venice, Sicily, Milan, Papal States

    Armoured Sergeants are simply an armoured version of Sergeant Spearmen. They are much better than basic spearmen and will serve well in the normal spearmen roles. Their morale isnít much higher than Spear Militia so keep them supported. They can form schiltrom

    Azabs
    Attack: 5 Charge: 2 Defence: 4 Armour: 0 Cost: 190 Upkeep: 100
    Factions: Turks

    Azabs are weaker versions of Spear Militia. They have less defence, but otherwise the same stats. This means you must use more of them to have any hope of them defeating the enemy who will have stronger Spear Militia early on. Always use 2 or more of these units to attack most other factions basic spear units. Keep them far away from swords and archers unless youíre using them as fodder. Needless to say armour upgrades are useful.

    Berber Spearmen
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 9 Armour: 0 Cost: 400 Upkeep: 155
    Factions: Moors

    Berber Spearmen are the Moors basic spear unit. They are quite superior to the militia spearmen with better morale and have the same stats as sergeant spearmen. Use them to form your line, fight other factions spear units and as fodder. They still have no armour so they will die quickly to missiles. They get a bonus in deserts and can form schiltrom.

    Byzantine Spearmen
    Attack: 5 Charge: 2 Defence: 7 Armour: 0 Cost: 310 Upkeep: 155
    Factions: Byzantium

    Byzantine Spearmen are the same as Spear Militia so use them in the same way.

    Dismounted Arab cavalry
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 13 Armour: 4 Cost: 430 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Moors, Egypt

    These dismounted cavalrymen make good spearmen; they have a good attack for spears and more defence than most. Use them to fight tough cavalry and hold your line. They are quite cheap for their usefulness.

    Dismounted Heavy Lancers
    Attack: 12 Charge: 4 Defence: 13 Armour: 5 Coast: 560 Upkeep: 160
    Factions: Mongols

    Dismounted Heavy Lancers are some of the toughest spearmen in the game. They have a very high attack for spearmen and their defence lets them take quite a bit of abuse. When fighting the Mongols use flanking cavalry charges, armour piercing attacks and swordsmen against these spearmen.

    Dismounted Light Lancers
    Attack: 9 Charge: 4 Defence: 11 Armour: 4 Cost: 460 Upkeep: 100
    Factions: Mongols

    While not as tough as the Heavy Lancers with quite a bit less attack, Light Lancers are still tough, dangerous spearmen with a high attack and decent defence. Deal with them in the same way as Heavy Lancers.

    Dismounted Polish Nobles
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 14 Armour: 5 Cost: 410 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Poland

    Another day, another good spear unit. These men are tough and can be relied on to hold your line and cut up cavalry, tho they donít have the attack of some other spearmen they have good defence and armour making them useful meatshields. They are just like Armoured Sergeants except cheaper.

    Dismounted Sipahi Lancers
    Attack: 9 Charge: 4 Defence: 15 Armour: 5 Cost: 630 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Turks

    The Turkís elite spearmen. They have very good defence for spearmen and are well armoured. They can dish out hurt with their good attack and take quite a while to start taking serious causalities. If you need spearmen as the Turks these men are up to the task.

    Dismounted Tuareg
    Attack: 9 Charge: 4 Defence: 10 Armour: 0 Cost: 510 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Moors

    The moors toughest spearmen with far better morale than Berber Spearmen. They donít have the defence of other elite spearmen, as they are still not armoured but still have a good attack. You should use these for demanding spearmen tasks but donít rely on them too far. As with all Moorish spearmen keep them away from missiles.

    Italian Militia
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 9 Armour: 0 Cost: 370 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Milan, Venice, Papal States, Sicily, Milan, Papal States

    Italian Militia are tougher than normal Spear Militia that non Italian factions have. While they are equal or bettered by many other spearmen the strength of Italian Militia and Italian Spear Militias is that they are available very early on, only needing a Town Guard to be recruited and they have the stats of Sergeant Spearmen and Armoured Sergeants respectively. This means for the first dozen turns or so the Italian Militia will be facing normal Spear Militia and other weak spearmen and can easily crush them, making it very easy for the Italian states to expand quickly. Itís better to make the superior and armoured Italian Spear Militia than this unarmoured version, but both of these units are excellent early on and stay useful later in the game. Use these units well.

    Italian Spear Militia
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 13 Armour: 4 Cost: 460 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Milan, Venice, Papal States, Sicily, Milan, Papal States

    See above for how useful these units are. They are the same as Italian Militia but are armoured making them even more useful. These should be the backbone of your armies.

    Lamtuna Spearmen
    Attack: 9 Charge: 4 Defence: 10 Armour: 0 Cost: 580 Upkeep: 185
    Factions: Moors

    Lamtuna Spearmen are like dismounted Tuareg except that they are disciplined, are highly trained rather than trained and can form Schiltrom. The disciplined tag means they will take a heck of allot of misfortune before they rout as morale shocks like the general dying doesnít affect them and they will hold formation better with the highly trained tag. Use them in the same way as decent spearmen with decent stats. These are the moors best spearmen and elites, tho again they are unarmoured but youíll at least have some smith buildings by the time you can recruit these to give them some armour.

    Levy Spearmen
    Attack: 5 Charge: 2 Defence: 7 Armour: 0 Cost: 310 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: England, Mongols

    Levy Spearmen are the same as Spear Militia. Use them in the same way.

    Nubian Spearmen
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 9 Armour: 0 Cost: 400 Upkeep: 155
    Factions: Moors, Egypt

    These men are just like Berber Spearmen, except they donít get a bonus in deserts and they canít form Schiltrom

    Pavise Spearmen
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 14 Armour: 5 Cost: 490 Upkeep: 155
    Factions: Hungry

    Pavise Spearmen are Sergeant Spearmen with large pavise shields. This gives them good defence against missiles, though they arenít as invulnerable as youíd imagine. They will still take causalities from missiles, but it will take a long while for causalities to add up. Use these men as your line infantry for Hungry, as they have very good defence for spears and will serve well.

    Saracen Militia
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 14 Armour: 5 Cost: 490 Upkeep: 155
    Factions: Turks, Egypt

    Saracen Militia are much like Italian Spear Militia except with slightly more armour. These troops should be used the same way: attack your neighbours early and overwhelm them with your powerful early troops while they are stuck with their lesser troops

    Sergeant Spearmen
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 9 Armour: 0 Cost: 420 Upkeep: 155
    Factions: France, HRE, England, Venice, Sicily, Milan, Papal States

    Sergeant Spearmen are superior to the standard militia spears as they have better attack and defence. They also have better morale, tho they are still not armoured. Use them like the militia spears just remember they are tougher. It is still better to use Armoured Sergeants when you can as they are just like this unit except for decent armour which helps them out greatly and they are only a tiny bit for expensive. Keep them away from missile fire unless they are fodder.

    Papal Guard
    Attack: 12 Charge: 4 Defence: 16 Armour: 5 Cost: 740 Upkeep: 215
    Factions: Papal States

    Exclusive to the Papal States, Papal Guard are elite spearmen with a very high attack for spears, huge morale tied for highest in the game and are the best defended spearmen in the game. They are the best spears in M2TWand when fighting the Pope youíll want to kill them with AP weapons as fast as possible, as they will wipe out other spearmen and some swordsmen in melee.

    Slav Levies
    Attack: 5 Charge: 2 Defence: 7 Armour: 0 Cost: 210 Upkeep: 100
    Factions: Hungry

    Slav Levies are exactly like Spear Militia and should be used in the same way, however itís better to use Hungaryís far superior Pavise Spearmen if you have the choice

    Spearmen
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 13 Armour: 4 Cost: 500 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Russia, Poland

    This imaginatively named unit is Russiaís spearmen of the line. They have good stats for spearmen, a lot like other factionís later spears and can easily form a line or fight cavalry.

    Spear Militia
    Attack: 5 Charge: 2 Defence: 7 Armour: 0 Cost: 310 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Spain, France, England, HRE, Poland, Byzantines, Egypt, Russia, Denmark, Moors, Portugal, Hungry, Timurids, Mongols, Scotland, Turks, Portugal, Poland, Mongols

    Spear Militia is by far the most common unit in the game, especially early on. Spear Militia can be created at just about anywhere and every faction has it. They are one of the weakest spearmen units in the game, but you will use loads of them early on, as will every other faction. Use them as your do everything troops early on, to fight the enemies troops, hold enemies in place so you can flank or hit them with missiles, as one big mass to rout the enemy, in a mass to kill the enemy general and just as basic soldiers. These troops, Town Militia and Peasant Archers will be most factionís early troops.

    Town Militia
    Attack: 5 Charge: 2 Defence: 7 Armour: 0 Cost: 290 Upkeep: 125
    (Spain, France, HRE, England, Timurids, Scotland, Moors, Turks, Denmark, Mongols)
    Attack: 5 Charge: 2 Defence: 4 Armour: 0 Cost: 160 Upkeep: 100
    (Poland, Hungry)

    Town militia are exactly like Spear Militia except they canít form Schiltrom. You donít really need to worry about that formation too much so use them exactly like Spear Militia. Another version of these spearmen is weaker like Azabs and you should use two of them to attack enemy Spear Militia if you want to win.

    Pikemen

    Even when defending a gate pikemen are largely useless as they get pushed back fast

    Pikemen are almost useless in M2TW. They are bugged to high heaven and completely lack cohesion or realism. The problem with pikemen is they switch to using their swords almost instantly after they are attacked in melee. Instead of using their pikes, maintaining the spearwall and stabbing the enemy with their pikes, they change to swords and become useless weak swordsmen with next to no defence. This makes them essentially useless, as the cant really do anything that swords or spears cant except actually stop the momentum of a cavalry charge and kill a few of them if they throw themselves on the pikes. Since they are usually very cheap they are good fodder to use to hold troops while you flank them or shoot them with gunpowder or arrows as it doesnít matter if the cheap pikemen get hit as well. They never have shields as they wield the two handed pike so they are very vulnerable to archers especially since they usually lack armour. The buggy pikemen are a real problem for Scotland as they make the most use of pikes. They also look really cool in formation so itís annoying they are useless.

    All pikemen get 8+ attack vs. cavalry when using the pike. The sword gives no bonuses. This is why itís important to try and hold the spearwall as long as possible.

    Pikemen are best left on spearwall as this lets them hold their pikes at least for a little while. Guard mode helps as well to prevent them from drawing their swords and turning into crap infantry.

    Defeating Pikemen

    Pikemen basically suck at everything but the best way to kill them is with missiles. They are slow in formation and they usually have little armour and no shields so shoot them with archers or crossbows or javelins if they are armoured and they will die quick. A cavalry charge into the rear should rout them easily too.

    Aventuros
    Attack: 14 Charge: 4 Defence: 10 Armour: 5 Cost: 610 Upkeep: 185
    Factions: Portugal

    Adventuros are by far the best pikemen in the game. The Tercio Pikemen might be famous but they are no match for these pikes. They have a huge attack, great defence for pikemen, are well armoured and have massive morale, more than some knights! They will beat any other pikemen in melee and fight well in the spearwall or out of it. They are impetuous but it hardly matters as they wonít be charging anywhere in spearwall. These pikemen make a great partner for Portugalís powerful Aquebusiers or Musketeers. Also try these pikemen with upgraded armour, as they look really cool if you upgrade it, with a unique unit model.

    Heavy Pike Militia
    Attack: 9 Charge: 3 Defence: 11 Armour: 8 Cost: 410 Upkeep: 185
    Factions: Scotland

    These pikemen arenít quite as good as their noble brethren but they are very tough for militia and have good morale. They have the stats to hold on for quite a while in melee and their morale makes them good for holding back enemies while dishing out their own kills.

    Highland Pikemen
    Attack: 9 Charge: 3 Defence: 3 Armour: 0 Cost: 210 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Scotland

    Highland Pikemen are much like the normal non militia pikemen but exclusive to Scotland and impetuous. Use them in the same way. Being impetuous they will take a lot of misfortune before they rout. They can only be upgraded to bronze armour, so their defence against arrows will almost be nonexistent.

    Noble Pikemen
    Attack: 11 Charge: 4 Defence: 12 Armour: 8 Cost: 570 Upkeep: 215
    Factions: Scotland

    Noble Pikemen are tough pikes. They have a high attack for pikemen and better defence. This means they are useful as the unit has a lot of staying power with their very heavy armour and sky high morale they can fight well when the spearwall collapses and they are much more versatile than most other pikemen. This unit is not as highly trained as some other pikemen so remember it will take slightly longer to get back in position and redress the formation with these pikes.

    Pikemen
    Attack: 9 Charge: 3 Defence: 3 Armour: 0 Cost: 240 Upkeep: 155
    Factions: France

    These pikemen are not militia and thus have better stats, but they are still very weak and have almost useless defence. Use them like Pike Militia above and get them some armour! Their armour cannot be upgraded as far as Pike Militia. They have superior morale to Pike Militia and can hold for a long time.

    Pike Militia
    Attack: 7 Charge: 2 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 150 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Spain, France, HRE, Venice, Sicily, Milan, Portugal, Papal States

    Pike Militia are the weakest pikemen in the game. They have a low attack and because of the bugs above they use their swords which, with their complete lack of armour and nonexistent defence get them killed very quickly. They are extremely cheap however, just a bit more than peasants so you can pump them out as fodder or garrisons and they do stop a cavalry charge. This unit can have its armour upgraded a long way and they can go from unarmoured to partial plate giving them better defence against archers, tho a lot will still die from them. Always endeavour to get them as much armour as you possibly can to offset their awful stats. Their morale is better than youíd think and they can hold for a while.

    Scots Pike Militia
    Attack: 7 Charge: 2 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 150 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Scotland

    This unit is exactly the same as Pike Militia including its morale. Use them in the same way. They cannot have their armour upgraded as far as normal Pike Militia: only silver rather than gold.

    Tercio Pikemen
    Attack: 14 Charge: 4 Defence: 4 Armour: 0 Cost: 350 Upkeep: 155
    Factions: Spain

    Spainís elite pikes, Terico have much better attack than most other pikes so they can fight well with pike and sword, except that against their defence is just awful, which is odd for elite troops. Use them like Pike Militia but much more aggressively, taking them off spearwall and letting them charge with their swords if necessary. Make sure to get them some armour upgrades. They have very high morale and it will take a lot for them to rout. Very cheap too for their stats, so use them off spearwall as flankers and put their high attack to work.

    Swordsmen

    Itís not the size of the sword, but how you use it.

    Swordsmen combine with spearmen and archers to produce the typical M2TW army. They tend to have good attack and morale and either very good or bad defence.

    They are used(with exceptions) for charging in aggressively, doing most of the killing and working as steady strong troops wearing down the foe in straight melee, flanking the enemy and protecting other units. Swordsmen tend to kill more quickly than spearmen; their weapons have greater kill chances. They are most effective against spearmen but can fight any unit. Use swordsmen as your average aggressive attacking troops: they are versatile and can do anything required besides catch archers and horse archers. If you are using swordsmen to fight other infantry put them in two or three ranks as this allows them to get the most men into the charge killing more enemy on impact so less survive to cause damage. Swordsmen do not work well against cavalry: they take time to kill them and suffer from head on charges. If you are forced to use them to face cavalry put them in five ranks. This will let them absorb charges somewhat better, their ranks adding resistance against them and halting the charge sooner so they can get the cavalry in melee and kill them. A powerful charge by heavy cavalry will kill a LOT of swordsmen though; up to half the unit with really powerful cavally. Itís much better to let spearmen take the charge, and then charge your swords in to help the spearmen kill the cavalry. A deep formation will also cause them to die slower as men gradually get into melee and die gradually, which is useful if you donít care about kills and just want them to hold their position against the enemy for as long as possible.

    Defeating Swordsmen

    The best way to deal with swordsmen is a cavalry charge with a powerful cavalry unit like knights or lance wielding heavy cavalry. They canít resist charges without spears. Crossbows and javelins work as well against swordsmen as any other unit and axes, if they are heavily armoured will do a good job on them usually. Swordsmen are versatile tough units and they donít die easily to anything besides cavalry charges.

    Armoured Swordsmen

    Attack: 13 Charge: 3 Defence: 22 Armour: 8 Cost: 610 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: England

    Armoured Swordsmen are not knights but they are heavily armoured and have a very good attack and have knight level stats and morale. Use these men as foot knights as they are the same as knights and will cut up most opposing infantry.

    Battlefield Assassins
    Attack: 16 Charge: 3 Defence: 16 Armour: 4 Cost: 660 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Hungry

    Battlefield Assassins are elite units of just 60 soldiers. They can hide anywhere. They have excellent attack and very good defence. Because units in medieval 2 start further apart than the closer armies of RTW they are actually useful this time, unlike Arcani in Rome: Total War. They have tons of morale and wont rout until more than ĺ of the unit is dead. Use them to fight tough units face to face as they have very good stats, or keep them hidden from sight and then suddenly fall upon the enemiesí artillery, or archers from behind. Keep them hidden till the enemy line has passed and battle has been joined. This can be a very useful unit when used correctly. These troops take experience to use well. They are also excellent in a straight fight: little can match them. Remember that if the unit is led by a captain they cannot hide, as the generalís/captainís unit canít hide. They are also lightly armoured and vulnerable to missiles. Remember they have swords and thus do not pierce armour. Try to send them after small units or lightly armoured foes to prevent them getting into a large melee, where their small numbers will get them outnumbered when the enemy moves in reinforcements. Or just charge in from behind where the enemies armour hardly matters and cut them to bits.

    Byzantine Infantry

    Attack: 11 Charge: 2 Defence: 18 Armour: 5 Cost: 400 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Byzantium

    Byzantine Infantry are the rank and file for Byzantium. They wield their swords well, are well armoured and have very high defence for such a cheap unit. They serve very well as aggressive infantry, able to last a long time in melee and dish out the hurt too.

    Dismounted Broken Lances

    Attack: 11 Charge: 2 Defence: 22 Armour: 9 Cost: 490 Upkeep: 225
    Factions: Venice, Sicily, Milan, Papal States

    Broken Lances may look like knights but their morale is not up to the knightly standard. These men are men at arms and have an average attack but high defence and are covered in armour. They are like a stronger version of Swordsmen Militia and can dish out the hurt and are good at soaking up punishment. Just use these as general assault troops and they will serve well.

    Dismounted Byzantine Lancers
    Attack: 11 Charge: 2 Defence: 18 Armour: 5 Cost: 440 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Byzantium

    These men are exactly like Byzantine Infantry except they have better stamina and cost a little more. Use them in the same way.

    Dismounted Christian Guard
    Attack: 16 Charge: 3 Defence: 22 Armour: 7 Cost: 690 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Moors

    Christian Guard are the Moors elite tough swordsmen. In contrast to most Moor units, this unit is heavily armoured and has a huge defence. They are incredibly skilled attackers and they are an incredibly tough unit, disciplined and highly trained. They are cheap for their power, and as the Moors you should recruit as many of these units as possible and use them along with Camel Gunners as your late game army.

    Dismounted Conquistadores
    Attack: 16 Charge: 3 Defence: 22 Armour: 7 Cost: 690 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Spain, Portugal (Only trainable in the Americas)

    Dismounted Conquistadores are oddly exactly like Christian Guard. They can only be recruited in the Americas from captured Aztec cities, if the city has the building required. They are absolutely devastating against the Aztecs: they have very high stats and great morale making them incredibly useful troops. You should use these and Musketeers as your forces to wipe out the Aztecs as Conquistadores will kill them incredibly easily since the Aztecs mostly lack armour they are easy prey for a sharp sword in a strong hand.

    Dismounted Latinkon
    Attack: 13 Charge: 3 Defence: 21 Armour: 7 Cost: 630 Upkeep: 225
    Factions: Byzantium

    While not as powerful as some other elite swordsmen, Dismounted Latinkon are more than able troops with a very good attack and strong defence. They will slice up a lot of enemies and serve well mixed with the Byzantineís other powerful swordsmen. They have high morale.

    Dismounted Men at Arms
    Attack: 11 Charge: 2 Defence: 21 Armour: 8 Cost: 460 Upkeep: 225
    Factions: Venice, Sicily, Milan, Papal States

    Dismounted Men at Arms are powerful swordsmen much like knights. They have an average attack, the same as Sword Militia but are heavily armoured with very high defence. They will chew though enemies by attrition, even though their attack could be better and can soak up allot of punishment. Their morale however is nothing compared to knights and they will run much more easily. Use them like knights but be a bit more careful and donít throw them into obviously morale crushing situations.

    Forlorn Hope
    Attack: 17 Charge: 6 Defence: 12 Armour: 7 Cost: 620 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: HRE

    No I am not named after this unit! Look up the military term Forlorn Hope up on Wikipedia to see where my name comes from. The Forlorn Hope are heavily armoured troops with 2 handed swords. 2 handed swords arenít bugged, but they lack shields so they die quickly. Despite the huge attack, this unit has just 48 men in it on huge unit sizes and that along with their lack of shields gets them killed. This unit is not worth its cost or its huge upkeep.


    Hashashim
    Attack: 16 charge: 3 Defence: 21 Armour: 6 Hit Points: 2 Cost: 840 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Moors, Turks, Egypt

    Hashashirm are like an uber version of Battlefield Assassins. They can also hide anywhere and there are just 60 men in the unit. They have amazing stats and are well armoured. They are very deadly in melee because they are very skilled in fighting rather than relying on much armour for protection: this unit can chop up AP units just as well. Basically use this unit like Battlefield Assassins but remember they are a lot tougher and can really slice up any units that arenít heavily armoured. They have huge morale and often will die rather than break. They are also disciplined. This is definitely one of the best units. Just watch out for missiles and crossbows.

    Highland Nobles
    Attack: 14 Charge: 6 Defence: 9 Armour: 5 Cost: 490 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Scotland

    Highland Nobles are pretty good troops able to crush spear units and weaker infantry and cavalry easily. They have a big attack but their light armour and lack of a shield makes them highly vulnerable to missile fire and their low defence makes them rather useless vs. powerful well armoured troops like knights, as the swordsmen find it difficult to damage the armoured foes and die in droves. Use these men against pikemen and spearmen but avoid heavy swordsmen and axemen, unless you flank them since any hit to the back of a solider usually kills that man, enabling them to cut up heavy troops if they can hit them in the rear.

    Noble Swordsmen
    Attack: 13 Charge: 3 Defence: 22 Armour: 8 Cost: 610 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Scotland

    Noble Swordsmen are the Scots elite infantry. They are very powerful troops just like Dismounted Chivalratic Knights. Their stats are the same and they provide a very solid core of late tough infantry to the Scottish.

    Norse Swordsmen
    Attack: 11 Charge: 2 Defence: 18 Armour: 5 Cost: 400 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Denmark

    Norse Swordsmen are just like Swordsmen Militia below and should be used in the same way. Swordsmen arenít very useful for Denmark because they have superior AP Huscarles.

    Swordsmen Militia
    Attack: 11 Charge: 2 Defence: 18 Armour: 5 Cost: 400 Upkeep: 100
    Factions: Spain, Portugal

    Swordsmen Militia are useful swordsmen, as they have quite good attack and great defence for a militia unit since they start off with partial plate armour. They have good enough morale and can last a good long time in melee against most things. You should make loads of these units and use them for your main battle line and general assault troops or garrisons. They are great for their cost. As above with Highland Nobles donít try to attack heavily armed swordsmen with these swordsmen, unless youíre flanking.

    Sword and Buckler Men

    Attack: 13 Charge: 3 Defence: 19 Armour: 5 Cost: 540 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Spain, Sicily

    Sword and Buckler Men are late Spanish swordsmen with light armour and shields. They have a great attack for swordsmen and can soak up quite a bit of punishment. They have huge morale and are powerful units with staying power for Spain. When you have access to them they come in very useful.

    Urban Militia

    Attack: 11 Charge: 2 Defence: 18 Armour: 5 Cost: 400 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Moors

    Urban Militia, much like the MTW version is a powerful early sword unit very effective for filling your army up with good reliable troops. This unit has good attack and excellent defence so they can fight very well despite being called militia. Use this unit as the Moors tough aggressive infantry, complementing their many lighter troops.

    Zwei Hander

    Attack: 14 Charge: 6 Defence: 11 Armour: 7 Cost: 680 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: HRE

    Zweihanders are slightly better armoured versions of Highland Nobles and should be used in the same way.

    Polearms

    Ha! Whereís your advanced technology now, invaders?

    Polearms are an almost completely useless class of unit in M2TW. The problem is that the last patch for M2TWfixed the shield bug (which caused units with shields to receive negative defence for their shields rather than positive.) that has plagued the series since Rome and this unbalanced the game towards units with shields, as the gameís balance was originally designed for units with the bugged shields. This is coupled with the fact that polearms have very slow attack animations and they can be blocked just as easily as one handed weapons so polearm troops spend a lot of time slowly attacking, getting blocked and having to start their slow attack animation over again, all the time getting attacked the by one handed weapon unitsí fast attack animations, getting stunned by the fast attacks and flinching rather than attacking back over and over and then dying. Polearms are very cheap, probably because CA realized the bugs and rather than fixing them they just made them very cheap to compensate for their crapness. Polearms are only useful for fodder and holding the enemy in place as they die. They have a huge attack and a good charge for infantry, so a flanking charge will hurt but they will still be just as useless in melee. The huge attack doesnít matter at all when they attack so slowly they can be ripped to pieces.

    Defeating Polearms

    Polearms are complete crap and can be defeated by just about anything. Send spearmen or swordsmen against them and watch them die.

    Billmen
    Attack: 15 Charge: 5 Defence: 3 Armour: 0 Cost: 230 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: England

    Billmen are bugged as described above and thus suck. Donít use them. Even if they were not bugged their awful defence would render them useless. The huge attack is meaningless

    Bill Militia
    Attack: 13 Charge: 4 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 170 Upkeep: 100
    Factions: England

    Bill Militia are weaker than Billmen, Not that it matters.

    Halberd Militia
    Attack: 5 Charge: 2 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 300 Upkeep: 150
    (Hungry, HRE, Sicily, Poland, Hungry, Papal States)
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 8 Armour: 5 Cost: 510 Upkeep: 150
    (Timurids, Turks, Egypt)

    Halberd Militia regardless of who owns them are useless, like all polearms. The Islamic factionsí version is marginally better however.

    Heavy Billmen
    Attack: 15 Charge: 5 Defence: 10 Armour: 7 Cost: 300 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: England

    Heavy Billmen suffer from the same bug as regular Billmen and are no use whatsoever except for fodder, as they can take a beating with their heavy armour.

    Heavy Bill Militia
    Attack: 15 Charge: 5 Defence: 10 Armour: 7 Cost: 300 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: England

    These are exactly the same as heavy Billmen with the same stats despite being militia. The only difference is they are trained in towns.

    Janissary Heavy Infantry
    Attack: 12 Charge: 4 Defence: 10 Armour: 5 Cost: 840 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Turks

    JHI, a mainstay of Medieval Total War armies and one of the best units in the previous game is an embarrassment here. Due to the bugs they canít even beat Feudal Knights and they have really lousy defence. Despite their awesomeness in the last game, JHI suck this time around and make it rather pointless to play as the Turks. They are disciplined and highly trained, like it matters.

    Obudshaer
    Attack: 9 Charge: 4 Defence: 12 Armour: 8 Cost: 720 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Denmark

    Elite Danish polearms that are of course no use. They can form spearwall.

    Swiss Guard
    Attack: 12 Charge: 4 Defence: 12 Armour: 7 Cost: 890 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Papal States

    One of the toughest polearms and one of the Papal States unique units, youíll fight this unit if you attack the pope. They are still bugged so they will be cut down easily. They can form spearwall and are disciplined and highly trained.

    Sword Staff Militia
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 10 Armour: 7 Cost: 550 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Denmark

    While tougher than some Polearms, the bugs still make this unit useless for anything besides fodder. They can form spearwall.

    Voulge Militia
    Attack: 5 Charge: 2 Defence: 6 Armour: 5 Cost: 390 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: France

    This is another unit of useless polearms except it has more defence than halberds. They can form spearwall.

    Skirmishers

    Itís raining death hallelujah itís raining death! woooowow

    Skirmishers are much like skirmishers in RTW, but far more effective. Skirmishers are missile infantry armed with throwing javelins and a sword. They always lack armour. Javelins are effective against armour in M2TWand will cause causalities to even heavily armoured troops like knights. Vollies from two units of elite javelins likeAlmughavars can kill 30 Armoured Swordsmen in one volley, which is great when you think that youíre defeating some of the toughest troops in the game.

    Javelins have quite a low rate of fire: the troops throw them slowly and there is a delay of a few seconds between vollies. They also have a very limited range. This means that javelins are vulnerable to enemy counter charges or missiles. Javelins need another unit to act as a pinning force to hold the unit in place so the javelins can do their work. Cheap Spear Militia is good for this as by the time the Spear Militia have been whittled down you should have slaughtered most of the unit being pinned. Make sure you take them off skirmish mode to stop them pulling back when positioned close behind the pinning unit. Their range is so short they will sometimes pull back before throwing and they take a while to fire so you donít want them wasting time running around.

    Javelins only have 8 missiles per man, but the unit fires slowly and seem to fire in a staggered way with some of the unit firing them the rest and so on. This means that their missiles last longer than youíd think. They do have swords and some Javelinmen have good stats to fight as light infantry after their missiles are gone. Javelins never have armour and are very vulnerable to archers or cavalry changes. Some javelin units are expensive so try to keep them safe.

    Defeating Skirmishers

    Skirmishers are only effective if they arenít engaged directly. Since their range is so short and they fire slowly they need to be left alone to throw their missiles without being pulled into melee. If you see skirmishers, focus on them first if possible or hit them with cavalry to crush the unit quickly. If you canít do that hit them with archers as their range and rate of fire disadvantage and their lack of armour will see them killed quickly. Just donít ignore skirmishers as that what the enemy hopes you will do.

    Afghan Javelinmen
    Attack: 13 Missile attack: 10 Charge: 3 Defence: 14 Armour: 0 Cost: 640 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Timurids

    Afghan javelins are some of the best javelins in the game. They have a very good missile attack and are very capable in melee for missile units. They lack armour so they wonít last too long but they have good defence skill and large shields to help therm. They are very vunriable to missiles like all javelins. Get them some armour. When fighting them in the campaign use archers or cavalry charges and lots of them as they have great morale

    Almughavars
    Attack: 12 Missile attack: 13 Charge: 4 Defence: 8 Armour: 0 Cost: 640 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Spain

    Almughavars are the best javelins in the game. They have a huge missile attack letting them cause many losses to heavily armoured units and can back it up with some very good melee skill, making them excellent for charge from the flank as they wonít be focused on and cut down if the enemy is already engaged.. If youíre Spain you should always use these troops but remember they still lack armour and are expensive, so try to keep them out of missile fire as much as you can. They can have their armour upgraded the farthest out of the javelin units in M2TW.

    Kurdish Javelinmen
    Attack: 9 Missile attack: 6 Charge: 1 Defence: 11 Armour: 0 Cost: 400 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Egypt

    Kurdish javelins are good javelins as they have good melee ability besides their average javelin skills. Donít be shy about charging from the flank.

    Javelinmen
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 6 Charge: 1 Defence: 6 Armour: 0 Cost: 270 Upkeep: 100
    Factions: Spain

    Javelinmen are just basic javelins. They will still cause damage to heavily armoured units and are perfect for parking behind your battle line and tossing their missiles over your mÍlťe units heads. Try to keep them out of missile fire. Their morale is low so take care of them. They are available very early on from the start of the game for Spain giving them a good advantage in attacking armour

    Lusitanian Javelinmen
    Attack: 8 Missile attack 8 Charge: 2 Defence: 7 Armour: 0 Cost: 330 Upkeep: 100
    Factions: Portugal

    While Portugalís unique javelins canít stand up to Spainís, they are still clearly superior to most other javelins. They have a good missile attack to cut down enemies and they can fight ok in melee, again from the flank is best. Their morale is higher than javelins but only about half the Almughavars.

    Sudanese Javelinmen
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 6 Charge: 1 Defence: 9 Armour: 0 Cost: 350 Upkeep: 100
    Factions: Moors

    Sudanese Javelinmen arenít amazing javelins but they are still useful as all javelins are and will definitely help the mostly lightly armoured Moorish army fight armoured units. Make good use of them. Again they have low morale.

    Turkish Javelinmen
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 6 Charge: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 300 Upkeep: 100
    Factions: Turks

    Turkish javelins are another unit of average javelins ready to rain sharp death on armoured units for the Turks. Same morale as Sudanese Javelinmen
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    Axemen

    Axes: thick, heavy and when used properly cracks open peopleís heads like an eggshell!

    In M2TW there are two kinds of axemen: One handed axemen that use a shield as well and two handed axemen using a large two handed axe. The two handed axemen are broken like polearms and are of no use except fodder, one handed axemen work fine however.

    All axemen in this section are AP. There are some units in M2TW that use axes as secondary weapons such as archers that donít pierce armour with them and some that do. The units in this category use axes as their primary weapon.

    Axemen are best used somewhat like swordsmen in that they are aggressive attacking infantry. The difference with axes is that they pierce armour so even tho some axemen stats might look weak they can cut down much tougher units like knights. Always send axemen after the heavy enemy units if you can and leave lighter ones to other troops. Axemen excel in flank attacks on armoured units, especially spearmen but most are tough enough to attack from the front. You should deploy axemen in thin long formations like swordsmen to get the maximum amount of men into the killing zone hitting with their charge bonus as possible. The more men in the melee the less chance of soldiers being cut off and dying. Axmen are far more useful than swordsmen as they can take on both unarmed and heavily armoured units and are versatile.

    Defeating Axemen

    Axemen are allot like swordsmen when it comes to killing them except that they will shred any heavy infantry sent at them unless itís overwhelmingly strong. Get them with cavalry charges and crossbowmen to whittle them down; just donít stay in melee with them for too long if you want your horsemen to stay alive. Two handed axemen are a joke and can be killed by just about anything or wiped out easily with missiles as they lack shields.

    Berdiche Axemen
    Attack: 17 Charge: 6 Defence: 9 Armour: 5 Cost: 380 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Russia

    Broken axemen.

    Croat Axemen
    Attack: 15 Charge: 5 Defence: 7 Armour: 4 Cost: 260 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Hungry

    Croat axemen are another unit of broken axemen.

    Dismounted Boyar Sons
    Attack: 11 Charge: 3 Defence: 15 Armour: 5 Cost: 690 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Russia

    Dismounted Boyar Sons are one handed axemen with good stats and armour. They are great for cutting up armoured units as they are about equal to knights as mentioned above. They will also annihilate spearmen and weaker swordsmen and come in very useful vs. Catholic armies. They cost quite a bit so try to keep them alive. They are well worth the cost. They have knight level morale, so they have plenty of staying power.

    Dismounted Druzhina
    Attack: 11 Charge: 3 Defence: 15 Armour: 5 Cost: 690 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Russia

    These axes are exactly the same as Boyar Sons and are just as useful.

    Dismounted Huscarls
    Attack: 11 Charge: 3 Defence: 15 Armour: 5 Cost: 690 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Denmark

    Dismounted Huscarles are again just the same as Boyar Sons and should be used the same way.

    Highlanders
    Attack: 11 Charge: 3 Defence: 4 Armour: 0 Cost: 400 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Scotland

    Highlanders are early axemen with a good attack but terrible defence. Their low defence means that if they get caught in a protracted melee they will be cut down quickly since most hits will kill them. They are also very vulnerable to missiles. Use Highlanders as flankers or send them into a melee with other troops to stop them being focused on and crushed. They have average morale but are impertutious so they will take allot of abuse.

    Norse Axemen
    Attack: 17 Charge: 6 Defence: 11 Armour: 7 Cost: 700 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Denmark

    Another unit of broken two handed axemen.

    Tabardariyya
    Attack: 20 Charge: 6 Defence: 11 Armour: 6 Cost: 490 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Egypt

    Broken axemen whee!

    Varangian Guard
    Attack: 20 Charge: 6 Defence: 15 Armour: 7 Cost: 520 Upkeep: 175
    Factions Byzantium

    Despite extremely good stats and insane morale and the highly trained tag these axemen are still two handed broken ones. Pathetic.

    Venetian Heavy Infantry
    Attack: 16 Charge: 5 Defence: 16 Armour: 7 Cost: 640 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Venice

    Venetian Heavy Infantry are some of the best infantry in M2: TW. They wield AP one handed warhammers, large shields and are well armoured. They have excellent stats and good morale and along with their AP weapons this makes them utterly devastating to anything they reach melee with! VHI are the units you charge in from the front with: they will do a ton of damage and cut their way though even knights with their AP weapons and stats. This unit is probably the best infantry in the game and are very, very useful units, which is just as well as Venice needs them to survive. Use them, love them.

    Viking Raiders
    Attack: 9 Charge: 2 Defence: 9 Armour: 0 Cost: 480 Upkeep: 155
    Factions: Denmark

    Viking raiders are weak one handed axemen. Their attack is good but their low defence and lack of armour often gets them killed before they can dish out much damage, especially against tough troops like knights. These axemen cannot stand up for long in melee so use them as flankers or against weaker units like Swordsmen Militia and spearmen and try to get them armour upgrades as they can be upgraded all the way to gold level armour making them more effective.

    Woodsmen
    Attack: 13 Charge: 4 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 170 Upkeep: 70
    Factions: Russia, Poland

    Woodsmen are utterly useless axemen. Their nonexistent defence coupled with the 2 handed bug makes them completely useless. They arenít even good for fodder as their defence is so low. As cheap as they are donít even bother with these men.

    Archers

    Archers are an essential part of any army, especially early on.

    Archers are a vital part of any army in M2: TW. Their ability to strike from a distance and cause causalities and lower morale before the inevitable melee to tip the odds in your favour or ease an already sure victory makes them most useful units indeed. Every enemy killed at a distance by an archer is one less your melee forces have to worry about killing or being killed by. They are especially important when you are facing counter units to your army such as axemen when you have heavily armoured infantry as you want as few of them to reach you as possible.

    Archers use either longbows or shortbows, although the overwhelming majority use shortbows. Only a few units use longbows. Both types are used to shoot approaching enemies, as this will cause causalities and demoralize them before they reach melee with your front lines.

    Archers are also great for parking behind a melee or basically anywhere they can stay out of melee and constantly whittle down the enemy and kill them without suffering any losses. When used this way archers can kill many, many troops when they are distracted and held by melee troops.

    Shortbow archers are ineffective against armour. They cannot pierce it and units like knights or heavy infantry will take little causalities from waves of arrows hitting them. Use standard archers against lighter troops. Spearmen, militia level troops and two handed weapon troops are prime targets for archers. Skirmishers and other archers are also good targets.

    Longbows are exclusive to the English, with one exception (French Scots Guard use longbows). They are AP archers and fire at the same rate as other archers. This makes longbows very deadly as they fire just as quickly as other archers, yet crush armoured units, their extremely long range, far more than most archers makes them very deadly as well. Always target armoured units especially infantry with Longbowmen.

    Archers cannot work alone, unless they are in such numbers or there are few enough enemy troops that they can be broken with missile fire alone. Archers need a melee unit to protect them, as they are usually poor in melee, though there are some that are good in it. They also need their targets still or moving slowly, this means units held by other troops like spearmen are much better targets for archers.

    Most archer deaths will be caused by cavalry charges, make sure you either have infantry units in front of your archers or a cavalry unit right behind or to the side that can intercept charges at the archers. In situations like this you should take the archers off skirmish so they donít move and instead keep shooting.

    Most archers can be upgraded to light mail armour or better and you should always upgrade their armour if you can as they are highly vulnerable to missiles themselves.


    Defeating Archers

    Archers usually are easy to beat if you can get close to them. Itís when they are behind other units slaughtering you with their arrows that they are a problem. The easiest way to defeat archers is to hit them with a cavalry charge. They usually have little or no armour so a cavalry charge will kill tons. Light cavalry make good archer hunters, as they are cheap, expendable, fast and strong enough to rip up archers. Heavy cavalry can kill archers easily as well, but they will tire themselves chasing them. It is a waste of their power attacking such light troops.

    Archer Militia
    Attack: 2 Missile attack: 5 Charge: 1 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 220 Upkeep: 100(England, Russia, Egypt)
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 5 Charge: 1 Defence: 3 Armour: 0 Cost: 250 Upkeep: 100 (Byzantium)

    Archer Militia are exactly like Peasant Archers. See that section for details on using them. The Byzantines Archer Militia are better at melee with far more attack and slightly more defence.

    Bosnian Archers
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 5 Charge: 1 Defence: 9 Armour: 0 Cost: 300 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Hungry

    Bosnian archers are decent in melee for archers but shoot badly. Use them in great numbers to compensate for their weakness and donít hesitate to use them as flankers if needed.

    Byzantine Guard Archers
    Attack: 11 Missile attack: 9 Charge: 3 Defence: 16 Armour: 5 Cost: 710 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Byzantium

    Byzantine Guard Archers are very tough archers even together than retinue Longbowmen. They have more missile attack than even the Longbowmen but they are not effective against armour or have as long a range they can however really mix it up in melee. They have excellent melee stats for archers and are well armoured so they can definitely act as medium infantry to support friendly units in need and even storm walls in sieges or fight spearmen very effectively. They also have very high morale. Byzantine Guard Archers are some of the most versatile troops in M2TWand you should use them well. They are worth every penny, but try not to throw them away.

    Desert Archers
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 7 Charge: 1 Defence: 6 Armour: 0 Cost: 390 Upkeep: 100
    Factions: Moors, Egypt

    Desert Archers are quite good for early archers. They are clearly superior to the crappy Peasant Archers most Catholic factions have early on. They shoot well and they can fight in melee much better than most early archers, though they are best left out of it. They do lack armour like most archers but their attack is quite good for an archer.

    Dismounted Archers
    Attack: 8 Missile attack: 9 Charge: 3 Defence: 6 Armour: 0 Cost: 470 Upkeep: 100
    Factions: Mongols

    These are tough for archers as they have a very good missile attack and are disciplined. Still they are far less intimidating than other Mongol troops and they will fall easily to a cavalry charge.

    Dismounted Dvor
    Attack: 11 Missile attack: 11 Charge: 3 Defence: 15 Armour: 5 Cost: 770 Upkeep: 225
    Factions: Russia

    Dismounted Dvor are ridiculously multiskilled archers. They have an immense missile attack letting them shred anything lightly armoured, They have a great attack and are well armoured and have an AP axe for a melee weapon as well as a shield, so anything too heavily armoured for their bows can be cut open like a can opener. These troops should be your main line as much as possible as Russia as they are truly do-anything versatile troops. Just watch out for cavalry charges, as Dvor are very expensive.

    Dismounted French Archers
    Attack: 11 Missile attack: 8 Charge: 3 Defence: 14 Armour: 6 Cost: 750 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: France

    Due to an apparent bug Dismounted French Archers are not in the grand campaign. They can be used in custom battles and online however. These archers are strong in melee and shoot well. They are also well armoured so they are versatile.

    Dismounted Heavy Archers
    Attack: 9 Missile attack: 9 Charge: 4 Defence: 12 Armour: 5 Cost: 710 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Timurids, Mongols

    These badass looking archers are tough. They have high missile attack and high melee attack for an archer, decent defence and are well armoured. They are also disciplined and highly trained with high morale. This archer is deadly at range to lightly armoured troops and can cut down many foes in melee. When fighting the Mongols run these archers down with cavalry charges to kill them quickly.

    Dismounted Lithuanian Cavalry
    Attack: 11 Missile attack: 7 Charge: 2 Defence: 12 Armour: 0 Cost: 420 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Poland

    These archers have a high melee attack and are as good at shooting as most other archers. Despite their decent defence they lack armour which makes them vulnerable. Just use them like normal archers but use them as flankers or support if needed. They are cheap for their versitilty.

    Highland Archers
    Attack: 7 Missile attack: 5 Charge: 1 Defence: 4 Armour: 0 Cost: 320 Upkeep: 100
    Factions: Scotland

    Highland Archers are poor archers and weak in melee. Remember you canít upgrade their armour far so they will always be vulnerable to missiles.

    Janissary Archers
    Attack: 10 Missile attack: 10 Charge: 3 Defence: 13 Armour: 5 Cost: 780 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Turks

    Janissary archers are some of the best archers in M2TW. They have a great missile attack for archers and very good melee stats but they are handicapped by having no shields and only wielding knives in melee. They are best used as pure archers as much as possible as knives donít really cut it in melee, despite the fact they are both disciplined and highly trained. They can plant stakes.

    Lithuanian Archers
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 5 Charge: 1 Defence: 9 Armour: 0 Cost: 430 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Poland

    These archers are poor shooters but can fight somewhat in melee. Donít bother recruiting them to use as archers as they really are no good at it and only serviceable, not great as light infantry as they lack armour. They can plant stakes in front of their position.

    Longbowmen
    Attack: 7 Missile attack: 6 Charge: 2 Defence: 4 Armour: 0 Cost: 560 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: England

    The basic longbowman is a very, very useful archer as your expect. Their missile attack looks low but they will still put a serious dent in armoured or unarmoured units. They arenít completely terrible at melee but with a unit like this you really want to keep them out of it if you can help it. Remember however they use an AP hammer in melee so they are effective against armour whenever shooting or in melee.

    Mongol Foot Archers
    Attack: 2 Missile attack: 7 Charge: 1 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 300 Upkeep: 0
    Factions: Mongols

    Mongol foot Archers are by far the weakest Mongol unit. They suck critically in melee as they have the same stats as Peasant Archers. They shoot decently however. When fighting the Mongols one good cavalry charge should finish these.

    Mongol Infantry
    Attack: 11 Missile attack: 9 Charge: 2 Defence: 16 Armour: 4 Cost: 580 Upkeep: 0
    Factions: Mongols

    Mongol infantry are much like Byzantine Guard They are equally good in both distance and melee combat and have shields so they can be a real pain to kill as they can do anything. Hit them with heavy cavalry charges to wipe these dangerous troops out as fast as possible.

    Muslim Archers
    Attack: 11 Missile attack: 9 Charge: 2 Defence: 10 Armour: 4 Cost: 550 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Sicily

    Muslim Archers are some of the best archers for a Catholic faction as they are equal to the best archers for factions that rely on them, like the Mongols and make great support for Sicilyís commonly infantry heavy army. They arenít bad in melee either.

    Noble Highland Archers
    Attack: 9 Missile attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 12 Armour: 5 Cost: 600 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Scotland

    Noble Highland Archers are better than Highland Archers. They are better in every stat and work well for supporting your units in melee as well as shooting as they are good in both. Don't expect them to outshoot must other factionís archers however.

    Norse Archers
    Attack: 11 Missile attack: 7 Charge: 2 Defence: 16 Armour: 4 Cost: 480 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Denmark

    Norse archers are another tough archer unit that can do double duty as light infantry as well as laying down some good missile fire.

    Nubian Archers
    Attack: 7 Missile attack: 7 Charge: 2 Defence: 4 Armour: 0 Cost: 470 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Egypt

    Nubian archers arenít very good in melee as their defence is too low but they are good enough at shooting and maybe as very light flankers.

    Ottoman Infantry
    Attack: 11 Missile attack: 9 Charge: 2 Defence: 17 Armour: 5 Cost: 670 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Turks

    Ottoman Infantry are amazing infantry. They are equal to the best archers in stats but are vastly better as they have good melee stats and pack swords and SHEILDS which they take off their backs when in melee, a trait which no other archers in M2:TW have. This makes them by far the most versatile and best shortbow archers in M2TW. They can rain death down with their excellent missile attack and can more than pull their weight in melee with their excellent stats (for an archer) and weapons especially against weaker troops like spearmen. Ottoman Infantry are some of the most useful troops in the game and they will come in incredibly handy for the Turkish player.

    Peasant Archers
    Attack: 2 Missile attack: 5 Charge: 1 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 220 Upkeep: 100
    Factions: Spain, France, England, Venice, Sicily, Milan, Russia, Turks, Egypt, Portugal, Denmark, Poland, Hungry, Mongols

    Peasant archers are the first archers you get for most factions and are the weakest in the game. They have a poor missile attack and are hopeless in melee, with useless attack and nonexistent defence. Use them early on for whittling down armies from a distance as they are very easy to train, requiring simply a bowyer and as a last ditch melee unit. When using Peasant Archers itís a very good idea to get them some armour as soon as possible to increase their survival.

    As weak as peasant archers are they are likely to form the mainstay of your normal armies along with Spear Militia. They are quite capable of taking down unarmoured or lightly armoured troops en mass like Spear Militia and they are so cheap itís easy to have lots of them to cut down enemies before the inevitable melee, so you take less causalities. They also make good fodder and distraction forces with their hails of missiles, as clouds of incoming pointy things tend to get peopleís attention regardless if they are accurate or not.

    Scots Guard
    Attack: 12 Missile attack: 9 Charge: 3 Defence: 17 Armour: 8 Cost: 800 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: France

    Scots Guard are elite Scottish Longbowmen in French employ. As youíd imagine they are extremely powerful troops, as they are the only non English longbow unit. They can rain death on armoured and unarmoured troops from far away and they also are heavily armoured and armed with swords for melee. Scots Guard are a bit like Ottoman Infantry and do well in melee even although their lack of shields will cause them to take quite a few losses. They are right up there as one of the elite most versatile units.

    Sherwood Archers
    Attack 16 Missile attack: 13 Charge: 3 Defence: 9 Armour: 0 Cost: 510 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: England

    Sherwood archers are pretty ridiculous looking English archers there are 60 men rather than the standard 120 for archer units. They have the highest missile attack for a longbow in M2TWand they are very powerful in mÍlťe against light troops with their high attack but their smaller numbers means they tend to kill less than standard longbowmen and their lack of armour and small numbers gets them crushed in melee by any decent troops. Despite what their description says Sherwood archers cannot hide in any terrain only forests like everyone else and they really arenít worth using over larger normal longbow units. Their small number, complete lack of armour and limited volume of fire makes them inferior.

    Sabadar Militia
    Attack: 9 Missile attack: 9 Charge: 3 Defence: 15 Armour: 5 Cost: 780 Upkeep: 0
    Factions: Timurids

    Another unit of tough archers, youíd be hard pressed to tell these are militia without their name. They are like Mongol Heavy Archers but even better defended as they are better with their shields. Sabadar Militia are deadly archers and when fighting the Timurids youíll want to take them out quick with a cavalry charge.

    Trebizond Archers
    Attack: 8 Missile attack: 9 Charge: 2 Defence: 7 Armour: 0 Cost: 460 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Byzantium

    These archers have a great missile attack and somewhat passable mÍlťe stats, making them useful archers in the archer laden Byzantine Empire.

    Turkish Archers
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 7 Charge: 1 Defence: 10 Armour: 4 Cost: 440 Upkeep: 100
    Factions: Turks

    Average archers they have a decent missile attack and can be used as light infantry to flank enemies.

    Retinue Longbowmen
    Attack: 11 Missile attack: 8 Charge: 2 Defence: 14 Armour: 5 Cost: 710 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: England

    Englandís elite archers, Retinue Longbowmen are well armoured longbowmen with better stats than the Yeoman Archers. Their good missile attack coupled with the AP power of their longbows allows them to unleash a fearsome storm of pointy death on any enemies and they can handle themselves in melee and work well as light infantry as they wield swords. They still arenít going to beat cavalry and unlike the other longbowmen their melee weapon does not pierce armour so donít rely on them too much in melee. But if your meleeing with longbowmen thereís something wrong as they shoot extremely well and can coat the field in the dead.

    Venetian Archers
    Attack: 11 Missile attack: 9 Charge: 2 Defence: 13 Armour: 7 Cost: 610 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Venice

    Venetian Archers are another unit of very useful archers, they have the same high missile attack of eastern faction archers and are heavily armoured enabling them to shrug off quite a bit of counter fire. They work well with Venetian Heavy Infantry to wipe out the enemies of Venice, of which there are many.

    Yeoman Archers
    Attack: 9 Missile attack: 8 Charge: 3 Defence: 5 Armour: 0 Cost: 650 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: England

    Yeoman Archers are basically retinue longbow without the armour. They can fight in melee better than standard longbows and shoot better, but their low defence gets them killed quickly. Keep them protected and let them shower the enemy with death or use them as flankers putting their good attack to good use. Remember they also carry an AP hammer in melee allowing them to fight heavy infantry more effectively than youíd think.

    Crossbowmen

    Crossbowmen are some of the most versatile troops in M2TW.

    Crossbowmen are a very important troop type inM2: TW: they will be useful in almost every battle. They are the first available troops, besides maybe javelins that will allow you to pierce armour for most factions and are very common mercs and are easily trained. Crossbows fire slower than archers, but their missiles have more power and they will usually kill men they hit and go through armour. Crossbowmen should be deployed in front of your troops or on higher ground because they are horrible at arcing their shots and youíll kill very few. Crossbowmen and Spearmen will likely be the bulk of your early army. Crossbowmen are equally good against lightly armoured targets as well, as they have a high missile attack and will kill them easily. This makes a large force of crossbows more versatile than archers, as they can hold their own against both light troops and heavy ones. The weakness of crossbowmen is they fire more slowly than archers and need to stay still to get the most effect because of their slower weapons. They also tend to be bad skirmishers because of their long animation cycles. Donít use crossbowmen against archers if you can help it. They may win but usually they wonít and will take a lot of causalities unless the crossbowmen are clearly superior or well armoured.

    Pavise crossbowmen are crossbowmen with a large shield on their back. They use this shield to shelter behind while reloading They are largely impervious to arrows while reloading, tho the fact you canít control their reloading cycle makes it difficult to get them to reload and shelter themselves when the enemy fires a volley Their pavise also protects them from rear missile attacks as they will take few casualties when hit in the back. Note that AP missiles like longbows or gunpowder weapons somewhat ignore their shields and will still inflict casualties. When they fire they will often get killed by incoming fire.

    Defeating Crossbowmen

    Crossbowmen are deadly if not taken out quickly. They have much the same vulnerability as archers: just charge them with cavalry to massacre them with the charge. They are overall usually worse than archers in melee and they shoot somewhat slower so massed archer fire will hurt them.

    Aventurier
    Attack: 11 Missile attack: 14 Charge: 3 Defence: 15 Armour: 7 Cost: 690 Upkeep: 175

    Factions: France

    Aventuriers are the most powerful crossbowmen in the game. They have a huge missile attack making them very deadly to armoured units as long as they are protected and are heavily armoured to protect them from archer fire. They are very expensive troops for archers so keep them in a secure position, especially given the crossbowís slowness and let them snipe away relentlessly at the foe. They can fight well in melee if the need arises.


    Crossbowmen
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 9 Charge: 1 Defence: 8 Armour: 5 Cost: 330 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: France, Denmark, Hungry

    The basic crossbowmen are actually a rather uncommon unit compared to Crossbow Militia and have the same missile attack. They are well armoured however and can fight better in melee. Their stats are still nothing amazing and they are best kept in a secure spot to fire away.

    Crossbow Militia
    Attack: 2 Missile attack: 9 Charge: 1 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 220 Upkeep: 100 (Spain, France, Portugal, Denmark)
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 9 Charge: 1 Defence: 8 Armour: 5 Cost: 330 Upkeep: 100 (Moors)
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 9 Charge: 1 Defence: 7 Armour: 4 Cost: 300 Upkeep: 100 (Russia, Poland)

    Crossbow Militia is some of the most useful militia in M2TW. They have a very good missile attack for missile unit militia and are still quite capable of seriously hurting armoured units. Their cheap cost and effective missiles makes it easy to have many units of them to create a hail of fire that is very effective for defending settlements or killing heavy infantry. Use allot of these units especially as garrisons.

    Genoese Crossbowmen
    Attack: 8 Missile attack: 14 Charge: 2 Defence: 16 Armour: 6 Cost: 600 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Milan

    Genoese Crossbowmen are Milanís elite crossbowmen and are much like Adventuriers but with slighty less armour and less melee ability. They still have a very powerful missile attack and a Pavise shield

    Genoese Crossbow Militia
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 12 Charge: 1 Defence: 15 Armour: 6 Cost: 570 Upkeep: 100
    Factions: Milan

    Genoese Crossbow Militia are an unsurprisingly weaker version of standard Genoese Crossbowmen. They have worse stats all around and lower morale but are still some of the best crossbowmen in the game and far above most other militia. They pack a powerful missile attack, a pavise shield, good armour and ok melee ability making them extremely useful.

    Pavise Crossbowmen
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 12 Charge: 1 Defence: 14 Armour: 5 Cost: 490 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Spain, Sicily, Portugal, Papal States

    Pavise crossbowmen are much like normal crossbows except for the large shield on their back. Use them like normal crossbowmen and take advantage of their pavise as said in the unit class intro.

    Pavise Crossbow Militia
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 12 Charge: 1 Defence: 14 Armour: 5 Cost: 490 Upkeep: 100
    Factions: Venice, Sicily, Hungry, Papal States

    Even though these troops are militia, their stats are the same as normal Pavise Crossbowmen, except their upkeep is slightly less for the same unit. Use them in the same way.

    Peasant Crossbowmen
    Attack: 2 Missile attack: 9 Charge: 1 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 220 Upkeep: 100
    Attack: 7 Missile attack: 12 charge: 1 Defence: 4 Armour: 0 Cost: 400 Upkeep: 100
    Factions: Portugal, France, Venice, Milan, Moors, Portugal, Papal States

    Peasant Crossbowmen are exactly like Crossbow Militia except they are recruited from cities. Use them in the same way. Except for the moors that is. Moorish peasant crossbowmen are very different to the catholic version with a ridiculously powerful missile attack for peasants and far better melee. Their defence is better too, tho they are best kept out of melee so they can work their ranged magic. Used properly Peasant Crossbowmen can make the Moors a nightmare to face, as long as you keep them out of counter fire.

    Gunpowder Infantry

    Guns: more fun than firing a bow!

    Ah gunpowder. They sure are fun to use filling the air with smoke and fire as they send rolling thunder echoing across the hills, loosening the enemyís bowels

    The first thing to remember with gunpowder infantry is they arenít meant to run around and skirmish like archers. Gunpowder is a slow unwieldy weapon and units that use it fire slowly and take time to get into formation. When using gunpowder you want to let the units get set up, leave skirmish off and not move them until you absolutely have to, so they can volley fire uninterrupted and as quickly as possible. It doesnít matter how close the enemy gets, the closer they are the more devastating their vollies will become.

    The second thing to remember about gunpowder is that it scares the crap out of the enemy. Any enemy that take casualties from gunpowder units suffers a large morale penalty and they will rout quite easily. Gunfire also inflicts great damage on armoured and unarmoured units alike as it goes stight though armour. Muskets are deadliest at this as they can pierce any armour in M2TW. Arquebusiers are less powerful against Armour than Musketeers but still far better than most things, and handgunner bullets are the weakest armour piercers. Massed heavy infantry are exactly the sort of target gunners should be used against as they are slow to reach the Musketeers and heavily armoured.

    When using gunpowder you can and will hit your own troops. They canít arc their fire like archers and if you fire into a melee with your gunners behind your own troops youíll hit your own and because of gunpowderís morale penalty you could easily rout your own men. That said you usually have to accept a certain amount of friendly causalities when using guns as their tactics usually have them behind something else.

    Gunpowder infantry should be deployed in two ranks. This way they can bring the maximum amount of guns to bear on the enemy and they reload very quickly. In three rows the front gunners wait until the previous front rank has moved to the rear and started to reload before they fire. In two ranks the front rank simply steps to the side moving directly to the back and reloads while the front fires. Then that row moves and so on. The guns will stay far more organised and will fire much more quickly in two ranks. In more than three rows less men are firing at once and the third rank and ones further back will not shoot, making their volume of fire less than it could be and wasting their potential. You should only deploy gunpowder infantry this way when they are firing into a narrow frontage.

    Gunpowder infantry use a revolving fire style where the front rank shoots and then reloads. They then run to the back and the front rank fire and the cycle repeats. The front rank usually will not shoot until the previous front rank is in position at the back and facing the front, which is why two ranks are best. This takes a few seconds, which is why gunpowder must be kept still.

    Gunpowder, because of its slowness and setup time must be used with another unit to protect them, unless you have so many gun units you can shoot the enemy to pieces before they even get close. Pikemen are the classic choice for this, together Musketeers and pikemen for the infamous pike and shot formation. I M2TW however itís better to have your pikemen behind your Musketeers if youíre facing slow infantry this gives the gunners an unobstructed view if the enemy and removes the possibly of friendly fire. If you are facing fast cavalry have the pikemen in front of the Musketeers. Or just to the side to intercept their charge. If you are facing a lot of archers, you shouldnít even bother with gunpowder as their slowness and lack of armour and bugs make them almost useless and they will take too many causalities. Musketeers are exempt from this rule as they have such a huge range and kill morale so they can rout archers before they can do much damage. Any infantry that can hold a line, like heavy swordsmen, spearmen or even knights can be used instead of pikes. Having cavalry on the flanks to intercept them is a good idea too.

    (Thanks to cottontail for this idea, said in his words) For the Turks, Janissary Musketeers and archers are a deadly combination. First, you let the Janissary archers deploy stakes, and retreat them behind your main battleline. Then, you move your Musketeers up to the stakes, where they can fire upon the enemy without any fear from any cavalry. This makes up for the fact that the Turks do not have any pikemen. The combination of deadly arrowfire and demoralizing musketfire should rout the enemy even before they reach your battleline. Same with the English, only with longbows and Arquebusiers instead.

    It is important to keep Arquebusiers and Musketeers out of counter fire. There is a bug in M2TW that causes Arquebusiers and Musketeers that get hit with missiles to get stuck in reforming or just keep shifting men around uselessly instead of just shooting. This is lessened if they are in two ranks but it still sometimes happens. Hand gunners do not have the fire_by_rank attribute that the other gun units have and thus donít suffer from this problem. Try to use some other unit to draw fire. This against isnít much of a problem for Musketeers because of their huge range. A hilltop is perfect for Musketeers because they get an even longer range and itís harder for archers to shoot back at them. Always deploy your gunners on a hill if you can.

    All Musketeers have a huge range compared to other missiles and a big missile attack. Musketeers have the longest range in the game and from the beginning of the battle the enemy are almost always in range and they will start blasting away at them. Musketeers are also the most accurate gun unit and piece armour very easily. They suffer from the gunpowder bugs as stated above and can sometimes be useless because of them. When they work however there are few things deadlier, as long as they have support as Musketeers are also weak in melee, though their stats vary.

    Hand gunners are not meant to be used to stay back and shoot like the others. Handguns have a short range and they have a much better attack and defence than Attack: 11 Defence: 13 Armour: 7 compared to Attack: 6 Defence: 3 Armour: 0 for both Musketeers and Arquebusiers and they are best used to fire a volley or two into the flanks or rear of an engaged unit or simply as the unit approaches to wreck their morale from the gunpowder attack, then charge into the enemy, where their good stats and the enemies lowered morale from their gun attack will help them triumph. Against already engaged units this will almost certainly make them rout.


    Note that often itís better to use crossbows than gunpowder. Crossbows have no bugs, they shoot faster and they pierce armour too just not as well as guns. Crossbows are a more reliable set of units.

    Defeating gunpowder

    Gunpowder are very easy to defeat if you can charge them with cavalry, the problem is getting close enough without your units fleeing in terror. Rank fire gun units take a long time to charge direction and get set up for a volley so flanking them with cavalry should ensure they get caught by the charge if you enemy leave them unprotected.

    Archers are good too as the bug with gunpowder mean the incoming fire will disrupt them and stop them from shooting. Artillery can also disrupt them for a time giving you time to get closer. Long range archers like longbows are great against guns

    Arquebusiers
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 14 Charge: 1 Defence: 3 Armour: 0 Cost: 460 Upkeep: 125
    Factions: Spain, France, Venice, Sicily, Milan, Russia, Poland, Hungry, Papal States

    Arquebusiers are the common gunpowder unit for most factions. They have a much shorter range than musketeers but they still rip up armour. They are very vulnerable to archers because of the bugs with the unit, their short range and the fact they have horrible defence and no armour, their morale is also quite low for such advanced units so keep them out of melee.

    Cossack Musketeers
    Attack: 12 Missile attack: 17 Charge: 3 Defence: 9 Armour: 0 Cost: 950 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Russia

    Cossack Musketeers are very powerful musketeers only bettered by Janissary Musketeers. They have a huge missile attack, the huge musket range and a big melee attack for a missile unit, but their defence is lower and their lack of armour or shields tend to get them wiped out. Make sure archers donít get too close.

    Hand Gunners
    Attack: 11 Missile attack: 13 Charge: 2 Defence: 13 Armour: 7 Cost: 650 Upkeep: 150(Spain, Venice, Sicily, Milan, Portugal, Denmark, Poland, Papal States)
    Attack: 11 Missile attack: 13 Charge: 3 Defence: 13 Armour: 5 Cost: 850 Upkeep: 150(Moors Turks Timurids)

    Hand gunners are very different to the other gun units. They have a lower missile attack and much less range. But they make up for it with vastly better defence and being well armoured with a good melee attack. Handgunners can handle melee quite well, especially against spearmen and should be used to fire a short range volley or two into the enemy then charge into the melee with their swords. The huge morale penalty from gunpowder will help them break the enemy after a little melee. They are also good for firing into a melee to make the enemy rout much faster. Just donít use them entirely at range because they arenít as effective as other gun units and are less accurate The Islamic version of this unit has far more morale than the Catholic version, has slightly more charge and less armour

    Janissary Musketeers
    Attack: 12 Missile attack: 17 Charge: 3 Defence: 14 Armour: 5 Cost: 830 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Turks

    Janissary Musketeers have the best missile attack in the game for non artillery (except for Naffatun) with the same huge musket range and are extremely lethal as long as they are working right. They fight well in melee too. They are disciplined and highly trained. If you are the Turks youíll want lots of these.

    Musketeers
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 14 Charge: 1 Defence: 3 Armour: 0 Cost: 540 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Spain, Venice, Milan, Portugal

    Musketeers are the basic musketeers and are the worst in melee. They have the lowest missile attack for a musket but are still deadly at range and have the same huge musket range. If used correctly they come in very useful.

    Sudanese Gunners
    Attack: 9 Missile attack: 16 Charge: 3 Defence: 7 Armour: 0 Cost: 570
    Factions: Moors

    Sudanese gunners are better than Musketeers in melee but should still stay far out of it. They have the same range as Musketeers and the same devastating missile attack.

    Portuguese Arquebusiers
    Attack: 11 Missile attack: 16 Charge: 3 Defence: 13 Armour: 5 Cost: 760
    Factions: Portugal

    Portugalís Arquebusiers have better stats all round: they have the same missile attack as Musketeers so their vollies are devastating and they can also fight in melee decently as they have good attack and defence, far better than standard Arquebusiers.
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    Naffatun

    Itís hard to have knightly arrogance when youíre burning alive.

    Naffatun is a one of a kind unit in M2TW. There are 40 men in the unit on huge unit sizes. The men are armed with Naffatun grenades: pots of lethal fiery chemicals that explode into fire when they hit an enemy. They have a tiny range, the smallest in the game and 5 grenades per man. These grenades are utterly devastating. They hit with area affect damage ignoring armour and killing even heavily armoured troops like knights incredibly quickly. One Naffatun grenade will kill anyone it hits regardless of how much armour or hitpoints they have. Even generals with their many hitpoints will die from one Naffatun grenade. Two units of Naffatun volleying at once can kill half a unit of foot knights in a few seconds they have a huge effect on morale and can just devastate units incredibility quickly. All Naffatun need to be effective is a pinning unit. They are small units and take a few seconds to throw their grenades and have a very small range. First thing is to take them off skirmish. Their range is only slightly more than the one that triggers the skirmisher reaction to pull back. If you donít turn it off they will just run away. Next you need a cheap unit to hold the enemy, like spearmen. The pinning unit might get hit as well so donít use something expensive. Charge the enemy with your fodder to make sure they get stuck in a melee with them and run the Naffatun up. If there are any archers around kill them with your cavalry. Then target the pinned unit with your Naffatun. They will throw their grenades into the enemy causing terrible damage ripping the enemy apart in seconds. The enemy will break in seconds no matter what they are and will be utterly destroyed. Anything from Generalís Bodyguard to Feudal Knights. Naffatun is deadly like no other unit if you use it correctly. They are cheap for how effective they are.

    Even tho youíll usually be using them at a distance, remember that Naffatun has very high morale and they are powerful in melee as they have a high melee attack and good defence and have some armour. They will always be very outnumbered in a melee however.

    Naffatun
    Attack: 13 Missile attack: 23 Charge: 3 Defence: 12 Armour: 5 Cost: 380 Upkeep: 50
    Factions: Timurids, Turks, Egypt, Mongols

    These are the only Naffatun using unit in the game and should be used as outlined above. Thy have all round great stats.


    Cavalry

    Cavalry are mounted troops used for charging into enemies to cause causalities and panic, chase routers and kill missile units and for support for other attacking troops. They are much faster than infantry and come in several classes depending on how well armoured they are.

    Knights and some heavy cavalry have the most powerful charge bonuses in M2TW and are great for pounding vulnerable infantry like swordsmen or missile troops. More details are found on those classes descriptions.

    You should always have some lighter cavalry to kill off enemy archers to stop them hitting your slow infantry which are often unable to catch them and for wiping out dangerous enemy artillery before it can bombard your troops

    Use heavy cavalry to flank and charge into units your infantry are fighting to rout them quickly. Charging from behind or a flank does a LOT more damage.

    Cavalry in M2TW sometimes have pathfinding problems and they donít seem to do too well against infantry in melee. Cavalry attacking infantry will often just sit there with their nose against the infantry instead of trotting past to attack. They sometimes just sit there and donít strike at them or other cavalry and are generally sort of buggy. Donít charge cavalry head on against infantry unless they are powerful, as light ones will just die.

    All Cavalry get -6 defence/attack in the trees and will be largely useless in them. Keep cavalry out of the woods.

    Light cavalry

    For when you just donít want arrows in your face.

    Light cavalry are lightly armed fast cavalry. They usually have low defence and armour but most of them are at least decent in melee. They are best used to attack enemy archers and perform flanking attacks on weaker foes. They are also the best unit for catching routing enemy units because of their speed. Donít use light cavalry in a head on brawl with melee infantry or heavy cavalry, they arenít designed for a head on fight and will quickly suffer causalities.

    Javelin cavalry are much like light cavalry but have the advantage of AP javelins as well. If you can you should always get the more versatile and useful javelin cavalry over light cavalry.

    Arab Cavalry
    Attack: 9 Charge: 4 Defence: 13 Armour: 4 Cost: 510 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Moors, Egypt

    Arab cavalry are good in a fight for light cavalry. They have good attack and their defence is good for this class of unit. They will still lose to heavy forces head on, but are perfect for decimating lighter troops with a flank and missile units with a charge. They are quite expensive.

    Border Horse
    Attack: 9 Charge: 4 Defence: 9 Armour: 4 Cost: 390 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Scotland

    Border Horse are weaker light cavalry but they still pack a good attack. Their defence is low however and they will suffer in a serious fight. Just stick to the light cavalry uses outlined above. This unit can be useful to support Scotlandís pikemen and wipe out archers shooting the slow moving pikes.

    Byzantine Lancers
    Attack: 8 Charge: 5 Defence: 13 Armour: 5 Cost: 500 Upkeep: 210
    Factions: Byzantium

    Byzantine Lancers have good defence for light cavalry and have an ok attack and are disciplined. They have a better charge than some other light cavalry, so crashing them into the back of a flanked unit is a good idea.

    Hobilars
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 7 Armour: 4 Cost: 280 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: England

    These light cavalry are one of the original ones from mtw and are still useful for chasing routers and running down missile units. They are too weak to be much use in a serious fight though you could charge them into the back of engaged enemies, donít expect them to last too long.

    Militia Cavalry
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 10 Armour: 4 Cost: 320
    (Byzantium)
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 11 Armour: 4 Cost: 350
    (Russia)

    Militia Cavalry are weak light cavalry. They have a low attack and their defence is nothing special though it is higher than some other light cavalry. Their morale is poorer than other light cavalry. Only use these troops for chasing routers and attacking weaker missiles. Even tough archers can cut this unit up. They arenít too good as flankers because if the enemy hold they will turn around and destroy them.

    Mongol Light Lancers
    Attack: 10 Charge: 6 Defence: 12 Armour: 4 Cost: 590 Upkeep: 0
    Factions: Mongols

    Mongol Light Lancers as youíd expect are quite tough and have some of the best stats, though other units beat them in invidual stats. These troops are the small fry of the Mongol invasion compared to the other units the Mongols have. They still can be annoying but they are easy enough to kill with heavy cav or spearmen. They have huge morale as much as elite troops and are also disciplined. Zero upkeep.

    Mounted Sergeants
    Attack: 9 Charge: 4 Defence: 13 Armour: 4 Cost: 470 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: France, Venice, Sicily, Milan, Papal States

    Mounted Sergeants are common Catholic light cavalry. They have good stats for light cavalry with good attack and decent defence. They come in handy to screen the usually infantry heavy armies of catholic factions and stop them getting picked apart by missiles.

    Scouts
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 11 Armour: 4 Cost: 410 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Denmark

    Scots are another unit of weak light cavalry. They are about the same as Militia Cavalry and have the same low morale. Use them in the same way.

    Stradiots
    Attack: 11 Charge: 5 Defence: 10 Armour: 4 Cost: 610 Upkeep: 210
    Factions: Venice

    Stradiots are elite light cavalry. They have the best attack for light cavalry and a good charge, huge morale and they are fast. They are very useful light cavalry to flank and chase missile units and their morale and speed makes it easy to use them to support your main force and smash into the rear of enemies. These are the most useful light cavalry. Try not to use them too recklessly as they are expensive for light cavalry.

    Heavy Cavalry

    They may not be knights but heavy cavalry are still a wall of shiny, pointy death.

    Heavy cavalry are heavily armoured cavalry that are not knights. They are usually just like knights in other ways, since they all have heavy armour, usually great morale and powerful weapons along with a good charge. Read the section on mounted knights and apply the same tactics to heavy cavalry.

    Broken Lances
    Attack: 10 Charge: 8 Defence: 13 Armour: 9 Cost: 730 Upkeep: 320
    Factions: Venice, Milan, Papal States

    While not Knights, Broken Lances do a good job as they are very heavily armoured, sharing their armour rating with few other units and a good attack. Their charge is devastating and combined with their massive armour its clear this unit is meant to charge into the enemy repeatedly to smash them apart. They can fight well enough in melee if you prefer to leave them there however.

    Cavalry Militia
    Attack: 8 Charge: 5 Defence: 15 Armour: 7 Cost: 540 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Venice, Sicily, Milan

    For a militia unit this unit is tough indeed as they are as armoured as Feudal Knights and have an ok charge. Their attack is lower than most cavalry but they are still well suited for a flanking charge with their heavy armour and come in handy for chasing missiles because they can resist them with their armour and have a good enough attack and charge to cut them down fast. Just watch their morale as it is only militia level.

    Christian Guard
    Attack: 13 Charge: 8 Defence: 16 Armour: 7 Cost: 970 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Moors

    Christian Guard are very powerful heavy cavalry as they have a great attack and can soak up damage with their armour, their charge is also devastating. This unit is the perfect companion to the Moors other light troops and will do its duty well indeed. They are disciplined and highly trained.

    Demi Lancers
    Attack: 13 Charge: 8 Defence: 12 Armour: 7 Cost: 700 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: England

    Demi Lancers are high tech troops England gets late in the game. They have a very high charge and fight well in melee with their knight level attack and armour but their lack of a shield makes them rather vulnerable in melee. There is no real reason to use this unit over Englandís excellent English Knights since they just get a basic sword for a secondary weapon and not an AP axe.

    Druzhina
    Attack: 11 Charge: 5 Defence: 15 Armour: 5 Cost: 690 Upkeep: 210
    Faction: Russia

    Druzhina are more like medium cavalry than heavy cavalry. They have a good attack and defence and their secondary weapon axe is AP. If youíre facing armoured units charge normally since they wonít use their secondary weapon in the charge then alt+click in melee to get them to use their axes to cut down armoured foes.

    Famiglia Ducale
    Attack: 13 Charge: 8 Defence: 14 Armour: 9 Cost: 880 Upkeep: 320
    Factions: Milan

    Famiglia Ducale are incredibly heavily armoured cavalry. They are tied for highest armour in the game and can soak up punishment like knights. They are still perfectly vulnerable to crossbows, gunpowder and spearmen, but to just about anything else tho they are wrecking balls with a massive charge bonus to shred infantry. Their attack is very good and with their armour they are perfectly suited to crashing into the front of foot knights and the like to crush them. They lack shields so their defence is less than some but their immense armour and their charge should see them killing a lot of enemy. Just remember they are very expensive.

    Granadine Lancers
    Attack: 10 Charge: 6 Defence: 14 Armour: 5 Cost: 750 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Moors

    Granadine Lancers are weaker than some other cavalry and despite being called lancers they donít have the bone crushing charge units like Famiglia Ducale do. They also have less armour. They still come in handy for flank charges and will still kill quite a lot from the front and they do quite well in melee.

    Huscarls
    Attack: 11 Charge: 4 Defence: 16 Armour: 5 Cost: 690 Upkeep: 210
    Factions: Denmark

    Huscarls are axe wielding medium, cavalry with all around good stats and very high morale. They are better left in the melee, as their axe gives them a low charge bonus. Send them and their AP axes crashing into heavy cavalry or heavy infantry flanks and watch the slaughter.

    Hussars
    Attack: 13 Charge: 6 Defence: 15 Armour: 5 Cost: 750 Upkeep: 210
    Factions: Poland, Hungry

    Hussars, some of the most famous cavalry in history are elite medium cavalry with morale higher than knights. They have a powerful knight level attack and good defence and are well armoured. They are perfect for chasing missile units, flanking and acting as general purpose cavalry as their sky high morale and strong attack make them very useful. They are expensive however.

    Latinkon
    Attack: 10 Charge: 8 Defence: 15 Armour: 7 Cost: 730 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Byzantium

    Latinkon canít compare to knights but they are still quite powerful as they are well armoured with a good attack and can still take allot of punishment. Their high charge makes them good for smashing infantry too. They are impertutious.

    Men At Arms
    Attack: 8 Charge: 7 Defence: 15 Armour: 8 Cost: 580 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Venice, Sicily, Milan, Papal States

    Men at Arms are tough with good defence and very heavy armour, they can take allot of abuse before dying. They arenít so good at dishing out pain, as their attack is low for heavy cavally. They can handle themselves in melee but you might want to consider pulling them back and charging over and over as they have a good charge.

    Mamluks
    Attack: 11 Charge: 5 Defence: 15 Armour: 6 Cost: 820 Upkeep: 210
    Factions: Egypt

    Mamluks are elite Egyptian cavalry armed with a spear and an AP mace. They are well armoured, disciplined and highly trained but their charge is weaker because they do not have lances. Send Mamluks against heavy cavalry and use Alt+right click to have them change to their maces which will let them cut them up.

    Merchant Cavalry Militia
    Attack: 6 Charge: 2 Defence: 14 Armour: 7 Cost: 370 Upkeep: 210
    Factions: France, Spain, Scotland, Portugal, Denmark, Poland, Hungry, England

    Merchant Cavalry are basically Feudal Knights without the skill. They may look like knights and act like knights but they are much weaker and have very poor charge, less than most infantry and much, much lower morale. Take advantage of their heavy armour and use them to take out archers and chase missile cavalry, since they will take less damage from non armour piercing missiles. They are ok for flank attacks as well because of their good defence. They are much cheaper than knights for this purpose too.

    Mongol Heavy Lancers
    Attack: 13 Charge: 6 Defence: 14 Armour: 5 Cost: 850 Upkeep: 0
    Factions: Timurids, Mongols

    Mongol Heavy Lancers are weaker than you might expect from the Mongols. These are heavy cavalry with better stats than them as they are basically weaker versions of hussars. They are still very powerful and annoying to kill in the campaign because of their experience level, morale, fact they are disciplined and highly trained and the Mongols very skilled generals, but they arenít as deadly as you might expect. They do however have an AP mace for a secondary weapon so watch out in melee.

    Norse War Clerics
    Attack: 10 Charge: 4 Defence: 19 Armour: 8 Cost: 750 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Denmark

    Norse War Clerics are pretty tough heavy cavalry armed with AP maces. While their charge is the worst in the heavy cavalry class (besides Merchant Cavalry) because they have just maces rather than lances they can soak up damage with their high defence and very heavy armour. It takes a lot to kill these horsemen and they will serve well. Itís best to leave these men in melee as they can dish out damage far better than they can with their weak charge stat.

    Royal Banderium
    Attack: 13 Charge: 8 Defence: 16 Armour: 8 Cost: 790 Upkeep: 320
    Factions: Hungary

    Royal Banderium is a powerful unit with great attack for heavy cavalry and they have good defence and very heavy armour. Their charge is high and they have insane morale. They can handle melee and repeated charges with equal ferocity.

    Polish Guard
    Attack: 13 Charge: 8 Defence: 17 Armour: 8 Cost: 840 Upkeep: 320
    Factions: Poland

    Polish guard are exactly like Royal Banderium except they have 1 more point in defence. Use them in the same way.

    Polish Retainers
    Attack: 10 Charge: 8 Defence: 15 Armour: 6 Cost: 650 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Poland

    Polish Retainers are the same as Latinkon and should be used in the same way.

    Conquistadores
    Attack: 13 Charge: 6 Defence: 17 Armour: 7 Cost: 880 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Spain, Portugal (America only)

    Conquistadores are powerful troops that are only traininable in the Americas when you can travel to the new world. This means they will mostly be fighting the weak Aztec troops and will utterly crush them. The Aztecs are mostly weak and the Conquisdoresí great stats and sky high morale will let them sit in melee when they are vastly outnumbered and take down loads of enemies. They are excellent at charging the Aztecs too as none of them are well armoured and they will die in droves from a charge even though the Conquistadoresí charge isnít anything special. Take full advantage of these units when you have the opportunity but I think the dismounted ones are even more useful as they have better stats.

    Kataphractoi
    Attack: 10 Charge: 6 Defence: 16 Armour: 8 Cost: 790 Upkeep: 250
    Faction: Byzantium

    Another MTW unit, Kataphractoi arenít as good as some other heavy cavalry as their attack is lower and they share their defence and armour with several others. They are still powerful units especially since they are disciplined but not the best. Just use them for the general heavy cav tasks.

    Lancers
    Attack: 13 Charge: 8 Defence: 16 Armour: 11 Cost: 930 Upkeep: 320
    Factions: France

    Lancers are very powerful heavy cavalry for France. They have a strong attack for cav, a bonecrushing charge and an insane amount of armour the most of any unit. They are also impertutious. They are like spike covered wrecking balls; carving great holes in enemy units. Their charge is deadly and they fight very well in melee. They may be expensive but this is a great unit and some of the most powerful cavalry.

    Qapukulu
    Attack: 13 Charge: 6 Defence: 18 Armour: 8 Cost: 1100 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Turks

    Another powerful heavy cav unit this is better than most with very high defence and heavy armour. Their attack is high like some other heavy cavalry, although their charge isnít that good. This cavalry is best used to charge once or twice then left to fight it out in melee, especially since they have an AP mace.

    Royal Mamluks
    Attack: 14 Charge: 5 Defence: 17 Armour: 6 Cost: 1050 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Egypt

    While these cavalry arenít as heavily armoured as some they are tied for best attack in the game and with 14 attack can tear enemy units apart. Their defence is still high even though they have less armour. This is an excellent and powerful cavalry unit and will come in very handy in the Egypt late game. They have an AP secondary mace.

    Sipahi Lancers
    Attack: 11 Charge: 5 Defence: 15 Armour: 5 Cost: 750 Upkeep: 210
    Factions: Turks

    Sipahi Lancers arenít the greatest heavy cav but they still have enough attack to pack a punch. They are best left in melee because; despite being lancers their charge is weak.

    Gendarmes
    Attack: 10 Charge: 8 Defence: 15 Armour: 11 Cost: 770 Upkeep: 320
    Factions: Spain, France

    Gendarmes arenít the greatest heavy cavalry but they are tied with Lancers for having the most armour. Their advantage is they can be trained from cities, the only heavy cavalry that can be. While they are weaker at melee than most heavy cav they still have the crushing charge and heavy armour to fall back on. Repeatedly drive this cavalry into vulnerable heavy infantry and they will be worth their cost.

    Knights

    Cavalry Knights

    Quick men while they are distracted by our shiny helmets!

    Knights are elite heavy cavalry. They are usually very heavily armoured and have very high morale the highest in the game besides the Great Cross and the like. Knights will take on terrible odds with no problems and will fight in a losing melee for a long time. They usually have very good attack and high to very high defence. The thing that makes knights special though is their devastating charge and their huge morale. Knights have a massive charge: a unit of Santiago knights charging into a unit of dismounted Feudal Knights will kill half the unit and they will almost instantly rout. Mounted knights can fight well in melee but the best way to use them is to keep pulling back, allow them to redress the ranks by dragging out a formation and charging them in again to kill another load of enemy. Knights can do this because their heavy armour stops them getting killed while they pull back and their morale lets them pull back without it turning into a rout. The best targets for mounted knights are swordsmen, as they donít really have any defence against the charge and will suffer many losses. The only drawback to this style of fighting is the micromanagement required. Even Iím guilty of commonly leaving my knights in mÍlťe and doing something else.

    Defeating Knights

    Knights are vulnerable to spears just like other cavalry. Even Spear Militia can defeat knights and stop their charge without too many deaths, if you have enough though they will take major losses in the ensuing melee. A solid wall of spears is the best way to kill them. Crossbows and javelins work very well as the more knights you can kill before they reach melee the better. Gunpowder works well against knights as well. Pikemen are expendable and can stop their charge if they are in spearwall formation.

    Chivalric Knights
    Attack: 13 Charge: 8 Defence: 17 Armour: 8 Cost: 930 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Spain, France, Sicily, Denmark, Hungry

    Chivalric knights are the generic powerful knights for factions that donít have a unique unit of them. They share their stats with quite a few other units of knights and have a high attack and defence as well as typical heavy knight armour. Their charge is devastating so crash them into swordsmen and light infantry to crush them. This unit can handle itself well in melee.

    English Knights
    Attack: 10 Charge: 8 Defence: 16 Armour: 8 Cost: 860 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: England

    English Knights seem somewhat weaker than other knights at first glance, but thatís until you see they have AP axes as secondary weapons. The combination of a powerful charge, very heavy armour and an AP weapon lets them absolutely crush other knights and heavy troops. They go though enemy knights very quick and are very useful indeed. Make good use of these knights.

    Knights of Santiago
    Attack: 13 Charge: 8 Defence: 16 Armour: 7 Cost: 880 Upkeep: 185
    Factions: Spain, Portugal

    These knights are all around good units similar to other knights and are recruitable only in a province with a chapter house dedicated to this knightly order.

    Knights Templar
    Attack: 13 Charge: 8 Defence: 16 Armour: 7 Cost: 880 Upkeep: 185
    Factions: France, Venice, Sicily, Milan, Scotland, Denmark, Poland, Hungry, Papal States, England

    These are just like the Knights of Santiago

    Knights Hospitaller
    Attack: 13 Charge: 8 Defence: 16 Armour: 7 Cost: 880
    Factions: France, Venice, Sicily, Milan, Scotland, Poland, Hungry, Papal States, England

    Again just like Knights of Santiago

    Mailed knights
    Attack: 10 Charge: 6 Defence: 14 Armour: 5 Cost: 680 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Spain, France, Venice, Sicily, Milan, Scotland, Portugal, Papal States, England

    The first knights most factions get, Mailed Knights are the weakest knights in the game especially their low charge and armour. They are still quite powerful however and have the same high morale. Be a bit more careful with these knights and consider charging into the flank or rear of units engaged with your infantry for best effect.

    Norman Knights
    Attack: 13 Charge: 6 Defence: 17 Armour: 7 Cost: 880 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Sicily

    Norman Knights are a slightly weaker version of Chivalric Knights; they have a surprisingly low charge. They are available early in the campaign however and replace the Feudal Knight for Sicily. They still have the same attack as the later knights and the same armour as Feudal Knights so they are a powerful unit for Sicily. They are impertutious.

    Feudal Knights
    Attack: 10 Charge: 6 Defence: 16 Armour: 7 Cost: 730 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Spain, France, Venice, Milan, Scotland, Portugal, Denmark, Poland, Papal States, England

    Feudal Knights are the most common knights and for the time you get them they are powerful and are strong enough to crash into the front of a unit and do major damage with their charge but are best used to hit the flanks or rear. They are impertutious.

    Noble Knights
    Attack: 13 Charge: 8 Defence: 17 Armour: 8 Cost: 930 Upkeep: 320
    Factions: France

    Noble Knights are just like Norman Knights except they have a more powerful charge. They are very tough cavalry like most knights and fight equally well in melee or charging repeatedly. They are impertutious.

    Polish Knights
    Attack: 13 Charge: 8 Defence: 17 Armour: 8 Cost: 840 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Poland

    Polish Knights are the same as Noble Knights except slightly more expensive. Use them in the same way.

    Portuguese Knights
    Attack: 10 Charge: 8 Defence: 16 Armour: 8 Cost: 700 Upkeep: 185
    Factions:Ē Portugal

    The Knights of Portugal are exactly like English Knights except they have a sword rather than an AP axe for a secondary weapon making then allot less useful, but still serviceable troops.

    Dismounted knights

    Dismounted knights can rip up most troops in melee.

    Dismounted knights, as you have probably guessed are knights without their horses. They fight on foot. They have slightly less morale than their mounted version and none of them are impertutious when some of their mounted versions are, but their morale is still up there with other elite troops like Terico Pikemen. Some foot knights use polearms and thus are bugged and suck.

    Dismounted knights are best used as elite heavy infantry. They usually have swords and are very well armoured and have shields, so they can take a lot of punishment and take few causalities from most units. Use dismounted knights as the centre of your line to hold the enemy and cut their way though and as an anchor for your army to work around. A mixed force of foot knights and cavalry knights is a difficult one to stop indeed and footknights will always be very, very useful. Just watch out for crossbows and artillery as footknights are very slow as they are covered with armour and will be crushed by massed crossbow or longbow fire. Javelin cavalry are also deadly to foot knights as they are too fast for the knights to catch and their javelins pierce armour. Knights work best with your own ranged support or light cavalry backup to kill missiles shooting the knights.

    Defeating foot knights

    Foot knights are slow and have no way of attacking from a distance, so the best way to deal with them is armour piercing missiles: use your crossbows to soften the knights up. England has the easiest time of it, since their longbows have a huge range and are devastating to armour. Javelin cavalry is very handy too, as it can stay out of melee and use its AP weapon to whittle down the knights. Artillery can also help thin their ranks and cavalry charges into the rear will still kill a lot. Since they only have swords, cavalry with powerful charges; like other knights and any other cavalry with 7 or greater charge will cause a ton of causalities as the sword wielding knights cannot resist the charge. Whatever you do, kill as many as you can before they make it into melee. If they make it to melee, good quality axemen like Dismounted Druzhina will rip them a new one very quickly as they pierce armour.

    Dismounted Chivalric Knights
    Attack: 13 Charge: 3 Defence: 22 Armour: 8 Cost: 610 Upkeep: 225
    Factions: Spain, France, Denmark, Hungry

    The common generic knight, they can soak up damage like a sponge with their armour and dish out the hurt as well. They serve well in the foot knight role of shredding enemy units in melee. They are only very slightly better than Feudal Knights as they have one more point in armour.

    Dismounted English knights
    Attack: 21 Charge: 6 Defence: 13 Armour: 8 Cost: 530 Upkeep: 225
    Factions: England

    While these knights are great mounted, they are no use on foot because they use bugged polearms. Their stats are lopsided because they lack shields so they arenít as good at holding the enemy like other knights are. Donít bother with them.

    Dismounted Feudal Knights
    Attack: 13 Charge: 3 Defence: 21 Armour: 7 Cost: 570 Upkeep: 225
    Factions: Spain, France, HRE, England, Venice, Milan, Scotland, Portugal, Denmark, Hungry, Papal States

    Feudal Knights are the standard knight for catholic factions and all of them have it. They are almost exactly the same as Chivalric Knights and excel in being your front line to cut up the enemy and hold them in place. Most factions will be using these most commonly for their foot knights.

    Dismounted Imperial Knights
    Attack: 9 Charge: 3 Defence: 17 Armour: 8 Cost: 540 Upkeep: 225
    Factions: HRE

    These troops look weaker than the other dismounted knights, until you see they use armour piercing maces. This means they will slice up other knights and heavy infantry in melee, which makes them very useful indeed. They have less attack for dealing with lightly armoured foes, but their good defence makes them hard for unarmoured troops to damage as they tend to have light weapons. Just watch out for axemen, as the Imperial Knights canít kill them as easily as other knights because of their lower attack and they will die quickly to them.

    Dismounted Noble Knights
    Attack: 21 Charge: 6 Defence: 13 Armour: 8 Cost: 530 Upkeep: 225
    Factions: France

    This is another useless bugged knight and is no use at all.

    Dismounted Norman Knights
    Attack: 13 Charge: 3 Defence: 21 Armour: 7 Cost: 570 Upkeep: 225
    Factions: Sicily

    These knights are exactly the same as Dismounted Feudal Knights and should be used in the same way.

    Dismounted Polish Knights
    Attack: 13 Charge: 3 Defence: 22 Armour: 8 Cost: 610 Upkeep: 225
    Factions: Poland

    Polish Knights are just the same as Dismounted Chivalric Knights and should be used in the same way.

    Dismounted Portuguese Knights
    Attack: 21 Charge: 6 Defence: 13 Armour: 8 Cost: 530 Upkeep: 225
    Factions: Portugal

    Another useless bugged knight, donít even bother with them..
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    General

    Sometimes you just have to get down and bust a few heads.

    Much like generals in RTW your general is the soul of your army. While the men are the body, the general is their soul that keeps them fighting. Over dramatics aside the quality of your general has a huge effect on how your troops fight and their morale. An army can suffer from a bad general as much as it can benefit from a great one. A general will almost always be better than a captain for a leader.

    There are too many traits to go into here that generals can get but here are some tips on moulding a good general.

    Start young. As soon as a guy comes of age give him an army and send him off to conquer. The sooner you start getting him command stars and positive traits the better and the longer he has to improve and serve your faction.

    Get the general involved. While generals bodyguards are not as devastating as RTW’s, they are still powerful units and are more than capable of contributing to a melee and hacking troops apart themselves; getting the general involved personally is a great way to get him good traits.

    Keep an eye on your general. Watch the melee closely. If your general is cut off from his bodyguard or is bloody and surrounded by people hitting him, pull the unit back to get him out of the danger, if he’s behind his bodyguard and bloody but not actually getting hit you can risk leaving him there a bit longer. If you can’t see your general, pause and find him: his distinctive armour makes him easy to spot. Some of the most useful traits like the scarred traits (that increase your general’s hitpoints, so it takes more hits to kill him) are gained by surviving a battle but being badly injured. If a general loses most of his hitpoints but survives a battle he will often get a scarred trait. It is a fine line to keep him in mÍlťe long enough to get good traits and getting him killed. Don’t be afraid of throwing your general into the thick of things.

    Regardless of his traits all generals have a heavy cavalry bodyguard. The size of the bodyguard depends on the importance of the general and his skills. High command star generals get larger bodyguards, while faction leaders and heirs always get very big ones. Traits about security like about being paranoid about assassins and such give even more bodyguards. The only faction that doesn’t have a heavy cav bodyguard is the Aztecs, as they lack cavalry. In one historical battle the English have a heavy infantry bodyguard for their king.

    Bodyguard
    Attack: 13 Charge: 6 Defence: 17 Armour: 8 Cost: 860
    (Timurids, Mongols)
    Attack: 14 Charge: 5 Defence: 18 Armour: 7 Cost: 900
    (Moors, Turks, Egypt)

    The early bodyguard for these factions pack good stats indeed and are more than capable of tuning a battle with a charge or in melee and protecting the general. They do not have the AP weapon of the later bodyguard but still serve well.

    Late Bodyguard
    Attack: 13 Charge: 6 Defence: 19 Armour: 9 Cost: 1070

    Factions: Moors, Turks, Egypt

    The late bodyguard for these factions has slightly less attack and more defence and armour but they also pack an armour piercing mace rather than a sword for a secondary weapon. This makes them more useful as they can cut up tough units in mÍlťe with their great stats and AP attack.

    General’s Bodyguard
    Attack: 13 Charge: 8 Defence: 16 Armour: 7 Cost: 820 Upkeep: 250
    (England Spain, France, Venice, Sicily, Milan, Scotland, Portugal, Denmark, Poland, Hungry, Papal States)
    Attack: 14 Charge: 5 Defence: 18 Armour: 7 Cost: 820 Upkeep: 250
    (Russia)

    The average Christian bodyguard is a powerful unit able to turn the tide of a melee with good all round stats comparable to knights. Russia’s bodyguard is even more powerful with great defence and very strong attack for a cavalry unit. Take full advantage of this if you are Russia.

    Khan’s Guard
    Attack: 13 Charge: 6 Defence: 17 Armour: 8 Cost: 950 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Timurids, Mongols

    Oddly these cavalry based factions don’t have the best general’s bodyguard as they have lesser stats than some. They do pack an AP mace for a secondary weapon which helps them along. They are disciplined.

    Late General’s Bodyguard
    Attack: 13 Charge: 8 Defence: 17 Armour: 9 Cost: 870
    Upkeep: 250(England France, Venice HRE Spain Sicily, Milan, Sicily, Milan, Scotland, Portugal, Denmark, Poland)
    Attack: 13 Charge: 8 Defence: 18 Armour: 9 Cost: 910 Upkeep: 250
    (Russia)

    While these bodyguards have some better stats they have some worse ones too like Russia losing attack. They also do not have AP secondary weapons unlike most late bodyguards. They are still more than capable of protecting your generals however, with great stats all around.

    Tsar’s Guard
    Attack: 14 Charge: 5 Defence: 19 Armour: 8 Cost: 840 Upkeep: 320
    Factions: Russia

    Tsar’s Guard are the toughest general’s bodyguard in the game and they guard the faction leader. They have powerful stats with the best defence out of the bodyguards and a powerful attack. Their charge isn’t very good so it’s better to leave them in melee.


    Javelin Cavalry

    There’s nothing like finding a javelin in your neck to get a sleepy head up and about.

    Javelin cavalry are very useful, versatile troops. They are light or medium cavalry with good stats and throwing javelins. Their javelins are AP and are devastating to slower infantry and cavalry chasing them. They have the same staggered firing style of infantry but their much greater mobility makes it far easier for them to shred armoured units under a hail of metal death. They all have skirmish mode so they can pull back from charging infantry while hitting them with their deadly missiles, they are also fast enough to skirmish away from heavy cavalry. Like the infantry version, javelin cavalry work best when they can fire into the flank or rear of a unit bypassing their shields. Use cheap spearmen or the like to hold the unit or use the javelin cavalry to unbalance a melee in your troops favour by hurling javelins into their flank as they try to fight your troops in melee. Almost all of these cavalry are good in melee so so don’t be shy of charging into a flank especially with the powerful Boyar Sons and their AP axes.

    Boyar Sons
    Attack: 9 Missile attack: 8 Charge: 3 Defence: 14 Armour: 5 Cost: 670 Upkeep: 210
    Factions: Russia

    Boyar Sons are useful jav cav able to function well as medium cavalry as well as whittle down armoured targets. The axe they use in melee is AP as well so they can charge into armoured units and cut down the weakened survivors after the javelin deluge. They have good morale. This is I think the best javelin cavalry and one of the most useful units since they can launch AP missiles before following it up with an AP melee weapon.

    Desert Cavalry
    Attack: 8 Missile attack: 8 Charge: 3 Defence: 8 Armour: 0 Cost: 540 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Moor, Egypt

    Desert Cavalry are the weakest javelin cavalry in the game but they still pack the same punch with their javelins as most others but will quickly suffer in melee.

    Granadine Jinetes
    Attack: 8 Missile attack: 8 Charge: 3 Defence: 13 Armour: 5 Cost: 670 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Moors

    These javelin cavalry are weaker than most others but not by much and they still serve very well as jav cav as they still have a good missile attack.

    Jinetes
    Attack: 9 Missile attack: 8 Charge: 3 Defence: 15 Armour: 4 Cost: 520 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Spain

    Jinetes are slightly stronger than their Moorish brethren in attack but weaker in defence and have the same missile attack. They should be used in the same way

    Polish Nobles
    Attack: 11 Missile attack: 10 Charge: 4 Defence: 17 Armour: 5 Cost: 800 Upkeep: 210
    Factions: Poland

    Polish nobles are the toughest jav cav; they can fight well in melee as they have better stats than some knights and very high morale. Don’t hesitate at all to use them as heavy cavalry with the added bonus of throwing AP missiles. They have high morale as well.

    Horse Archers

    Horse archers rule the desert.

    Horse Archers are mounted troops with bows. This combination of missiles and mobility makes them the perfect troops for harassment as they can kill enemies with their arrows then withdraw before the enemy can catch them. Almost all horse archers use bows and their missile attack tends to be lower than foot archers to represent the lessened accuracy from horseback archery. The best way to use horse archers is to ride around to the rear or right flank of the enemy so you can hit them in their unshielded side or weakly armoured back so you’ll kill allot more with their arrows. Attacking from the front with horse archers is much less effective as they have a usually low missile attack and many shots will be blocked by the enemies shield or absorbed by armour unless they are firing at unarmoured targets like Spear Militia Always move to the flank or rear with them and make sure to keep skirmish mode on unless you have them in a secure position you don’t want them to leave. Make sure to keep horse archers out of melee, as with a few exceptions they are weak in it and are usually lightly armoured or unarmoured with weak weapons. Foot archer and gunpowder are also strong against horse archers, as the horses are a big target and usually lack armour and have less missile attack. If you are facing infantry missile troops besides javelins with horse archers charge them and fight them in melee but remember that some archers are quite tough and will beat horse archers in melee.

    M2TWalso features a few units of mounted crossbowmen and one longbow equipped horse archer unit. Mounted crossbows should be used much like mounted gunpowder except that they don’t cause a morale penalty. Take advantage of their ability to crush armoured units and try to keep them out of counter fire.

    Byzantine Cavalry
    Attack: 7 Missile attack 6 Charge: 2 Defence: 12 Armour: 4 Cost: 520 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Byzantine cavalry

    Byzantine cavalry are poor shooters but they aren’t bad in melee and work quite well as light cavalry for charging into a flank, though their horrible charge bonus and light armour handicaps them their defence is good., Their morale is low so be careful with them.

    Cossack Cavalry
    Attack: 9 Missile attack 8 Charge: 4 Defence: 11 Armour: 0 Cost: 700 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Russia

    Russia’s famous Cossacks, these HAs shoot well and have good attack for such light cavalry and a good charge for horse archers so they can charge into a flank and use their decent melee stats to fight for a while. They will die quickly however because of their lack of armour. They have very high morale the same as knights.

    Dvor Cavalry
    Attack: 11 Missile attack: 10 Charge: 4 Defence: 16 Armour: 5 Cost: 800 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Russia

    Dvor are strong horse archers, the best in the game! They have a powerful attack and great defence for horse archers as well as an AP axe for melee. They shoot very well and have very high morale making them very versatile. This unit can shoot at light units from a distance to cause causalities and charge home and fight then well, or charge heavily armoured troops their arrows are ineffective against and crush them using their AP secondary weapon. These are some of Russia’s most useful troops and you should use them tho they are expensive.

    French Mounted Archers
    Attack: 9 Missile attack: 7 Charge: 4 Defence: 14 Armour: 6 Cost: 1030 Upkeep: 210
    Factions: France

    French mounted archers, like Dismounted French archers are not available in the grand campaign as they do not appear. This is a crying shame because they are remarkably deadly troops. The thing that makes this unit so powerful is they are armed with LONGBOWS with the power and armour piercing ability that comes with them, as well as possessing the mobility of horse archers. This makes them very deadly vs. slow heavy infantry and other armoured units. I’m not sure why England doesn’t get a mounted longbow unit but sadly you can only take advantage of this unit in custom battles and online multiplayer.

    Granadine Crossbow Cavalry
    Attack: 8 Missile attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 9 Armour: 5 Cost: 580 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Moors

    As one of the few mounted crossbow units in M2TW these are very useful. They are quite well armoured for missile units, tho they have weak defence and you still should keep them out of melee. They can take some counter fire and well beat horse archers. It’s much better to attack the armoured units such as foot knights however.

    Hungarian Nobles
    Attack: 9 Missile attack: 8 Charge: 4 Defence: 16 Armour: 5 Cost: 750 Upkeep: 210
    Factions: Hungry

    Hungarian nobles are like weaker Dvor. They can fight in melee just as well as shooting their defence lets them take damage and don’t hesitate to charge them into a flank if needed after showering the enemy with arrows.

    Kazaks
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 6 Charge: 2 Defence: 3 Armour: 0 Cost: 380 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Russia

    Kazaks are basic Russian horse archers. They have a weak missile attack, poor melee and their defence is very low as they lack armour. Just use them for shooting lighter troops like spearmen and keep them far away from melee.

    Mamluk Archers
    Attack: 8 Missile attack: 8 Charge: 4 Defence: 15 Armour: 5 Cost: 900 Upkeep: 210
    Factions: Egypt

    Mamluk archers are another tough unit of horse archers wielding secondary AP maces as small shields making them very handy in melee they have good melee stats which coupled with their AP weapon makes them useful tho they are good shooters as well.

    Magyar Cavalry
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 6 Charge: 2 Defence: 7 Armour: 4 Cost: 400 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Hungry

    Magyar cavalry are lightly armoured horse archers but their defence still sucks. Besides their armour they are the same as Kazaks and should be used for shooting and kept out of melee.

    Mongol Heavy Archers
    Attack: 8 Missile attack: 8 Charge: 4 Defence: 15 Armour: 5 Cost: 900 Upkeep: 0
    Factions: Timurids, Mongols

    Mongol heavy archers are exactly the same as Mamluk archers including the secondary AP mace. This unit has no upkeep so the Mongols don’t go bankrupt.

    Mongol Horse Archers
    Attack: 8 Missile attack: 8 charge: 4 Defence: 6 Armour: 0 Cost: 590 Upkeep: 0
    Factions: Mongols

    These horse archers have better melee attack than some, tho they have weak defence so are best kept out of melee. Being Mongol they unsurprisingly shoot very well. Zero upkeep.

    Turkish Horse Archers
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 6 Charge: 2 Defence: 3 Armour: 0 Cost: 420 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Timurids, Turks

    Turkish horse archers are just like Kazaks and should be used as basic horse archers and kept out of melee.

    Mounted Crossbowmen
    Attack: 7 Missile attack: 5 Charge: 2 Defence: 10 Armour: 5 Cost: 470 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Venice, Milan, Portugal, Denmark, Papal States

    Mounted crossbows are far weaker than their infantry counterparts but are still great against enemy armour as they can skirmish away from enemies and can fire on the move. Their missile attack is low so they won’t really be all that effective against unarmoured units compared to archers so target the armoured enemies with them. They are tolerable as light cavalry in melee too

    Sipahis
    Attack: 9 Missile attack: 8 Charge: 3 Defence: 15 Armour: 5 Cost: 760 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Turks

    Sipahis are yet another unit of HA just like Hungarian Nobles. Use them in the same way.

    Skythikon
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 6 Defence: 3 Armour: 0 Cost: 380 Upkeep: 175
    Faction: Byzantium

    Again these HAs are just like Kazaks.

    Lithuanian cavalry
    Attack: 9 Missile attack: 6 Charge: 3 Defence: 11 Armour: 0 Cost: 500 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Poland

    Despite not having armour Lithuanian Cavalry are ok in melee since they have a great attack for horse archers and just about excusable defence. Their missile attack is low but they can be used as light cavalry as well as shooting.

    Strzelcy
    Attack: 7 Missile attack: 5 Charge: 2 Defence: 12 Armour: 4 Cost: 510 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Poland

    Strzelcy are mounted crossbowmen that should be used much like the normal mounted crossbowmen.

    Turkomans
    Attack: 7 Missile attack: 6 Charge: 2 Defence: 8 Armour: 0 Cost: 510 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Timurids, Turks

    Turkomans are another basic horse archer unit. They have better defence than some as they pack a small shield but should still be used purely to shoot.

    Vardariotriotai
    Attack: 10 Missile attack 9 Charge: 4 Defence: 17 Armour: 5 Cost: 800
    Factions: Byzantines

    This is another very useful unit of horse archers able to fight well in melee and function as light cavalry if required. Don’t hesitate to throw them against weaker units or into a flank.

    Camels

    Armour is for pussies anyway!

    Camels, much like RTW's camels are made for one purpose and that is killing off cavalry. Camels get +2 attack vs. cavalry and at the same time cavalry get -4 attack vs. camels, giving the camels a huge advantage. Camels get -4 against elephants like horses however, so keep them far away. Camels are never armoured and will suffer greatly at the hands of infantry. Keep camels far away from infantry, except weak missile units and focus on hitting the cavalry with them.

    Tuareg Camel Spearmen
    Attack: 11 Charge: 5 Defence: 10 Armour: 0 Cost: 600 Upkeep: 300
    Factions: Moors

    The only recruitable unit of camels in M2: TW, Tuareg give the Moors a big advantage over their Christian neighbours. The only other camel units are mercenaries.

    Elephants

    Don’t call him dumbo.

    Elephants are well known as devastating units: they were deadly in RTW unless properly countered. In M2TWthey are toned down and incredibly rare, but still remain rather dangerous. Because of the much better morale of units, elephants have a hard time routing them quickly like in RTW. Very tough units like knights will just sit in melee with the elephants and steadily wear them down. For best results crash into the rear with elephants and attack them with another unit at the same time.

    Elephants
    Attack: 10 Missile attack: 16 Charge: 9 Defence: 16 Armour: 13 Cost: 2090 Upkeep: 0
    Factions: Timurids

    The basic elephant; they have good stats and hitpoints and serve well for charging into the enemy and scaring them. They have Arquebusiers on their backs and the morale crushing fire from these help the elephants to rout enemies. The Arquebusiers are very accurate compared to foot Arquebusiers and can really put a hole in an enemy unit given a minute or two. This unit cannot skirmish. Note that these units upkeep is zero so the Timurids don’t bankrupt themselves keeping it around.

    Elephant artillery
    Attack: 10 Missile attack: 28 Charge: 9 Defence: 16 Armour: 13 Cost: 2750 Upkeep: 0
    Factions: Timurids

    Elephant artillery, historically accurate or not are normal elephants with small serpentine type cannons mounted on their backs rather than guys with arquebuses. The cannons have a small area of affect, but since there are 15 elephants in the unit they can unload a hail of lead if you have a few units of them. A volley from two units of cannon elephants basically covers the area in front of them to a good distance with shells. If a unit is caught in there they will usually suffer 1/3 causalities in one go. 2 or 3 vollies will crush that unit so firing them into a mass of troops will kill tons and they will rout very quickly. Don’t underestimate the power of elephant artillery. If enemies make it to the elephants they won’t have an easy time in melee since they are elephants and it will take a while for elephants to start dropping. If you’re unlucky enough to face this unit; use your own artillery, any long range archers and swamp them with melee troops...and pray. They are very, very expensive by far the most in the game so losing the unit will be very bad for the Timurids. This unit also has zero upkeep.
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    Artillery

    Artillery works somewhat better than suicidal peasants ramming a gate on the bigger walls.

    Artillery are large siege engines designed for bashing down walls and indirect fire on troops. They usually have a long range and an area of effect attack

    Standard artillery includes all non gun artillery. All artillery is inaccurate and you have to be lucky to hit a unit directly with their missiles, and even if you do it wonít kill that many. Artillery are all different and more information can be found in the unit descriptions.

    One thing common to all artillery is they need another unit of infantry or cavalry nearby to intercept cavalry charges and stop the artillery crew getting dragged into melee. Artillery crews are small and while they are surprisingly good at melee as they have some armour and knives a cavalry charge will slaughter them and they will be cut down in melee with anything tougher than peasants as they are far outnumbered.

    Artillery isnít the crushing deadly force you might expect it to be. They are more a constant low level barrage of missiles chipping away at the enemy and killing some now and then from the safety of behind your lines. They can kill some in a battle but never rely on your artillery to win you a battle unless itís a siege.

    Gunpowder artillery can destroy stone walls very easily, as their shots have a lot of power. The ultimate example of this is the Turkish Monster Bombard that can destroy even the biggest of walls in one shot. Gunpowder Artillery is very useful for destroying towers to make the assault less costly for your troops.

    The Rocket Launcher, an amusing artillery weapon used by the Mongols fires a huge barrage of 36 rockets which are very inaccurate and land over a large area and are flame weapons. They are excellent for weakening masses of troops and for firing at enemy artillery since the many fiery projective gives them a good chance of hitting an enemy artillery piece directly and destroying it outright or setting it on fire making it useless.

    An annoyance of artillery is the fact is has a minimum range. If you tell a unit to fire and itís in range but the unit wont shoot, that means the enemy is too close to target. Only large cannon type artillery have minimum ranges, Ribaults do not. Use fodder and other troops to keep enemies far enough away from the artillery so it can fire, or target more distant enemy troops.

    Ballista
    Attack: vs. troops: 55 vs. buildings: 10 Defence: 8 Armour: 4 Cost: 370 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Spain, France, Timurids, Venice, Sicily, Milan, Scotland, Byzantium, Russia, Turks, Egypt, Portugal, Denmark, Poland, Hungry, Papal States, Mongols, England

    Ballistae are common artillery and every faction has them. They fire large arrow like bolts and have a longer range than archers, though its short for artillery ranges. They are mostly useless vs troops. In both flaming missiles and normal mode they will kill 1-6 per missile as the missiles pierce though men and will often kill the line of men behind the first man it hits if the unit is lined up and marching. While much more effective than Romeís version, ballistae arenít really going to make a dent in an army themselves, though they are ok for sitting behind your lines and constantly hitting the enemy with bolts for a constant low level barrage. Ballistae are effective against wooden walls, but stone ones will take allot of hits to destroy and the ballista crew will get killed by wall defences before they can do much.

    Basilisk
    Attack: 63 Missile attack: 330 Defence: 8 Armour: 4 Cost: 1080 Upkeep: 400
    Factions: Russia, Portugal, Poland, Hungry

    Basilisks are the most advanced cannons in the game needing a ton of buildings and a very advanced city and only few factions get them. They are overwhelmingly not worth their cost. They are seemingly just as inaccurate as the previous artillery and have the same ability to fire solid or exploding shot. They have a huge range but otherwise arenít really better than cannons.

    Bombard
    Attack: vs. troops: 55 vs. buildings: 120 Defence: 8 Armour: 4 Cost: 610 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: France, Spain, Timurids, Sicily, Milan, Scotland, Byzantium, Russia, Turks, Egypt, Portugal, Denmark, Poland, Hungry, Papal States, Mongols, England

    Bombards are the first gunpowder artillery you can make and are very powerful at smashing down walls for their cost. While highly inaccurate and needing a high level city to produce they can decimate walls in a few shots and big ones will fall quite quickly. They are too inaccurate to be used against troops, but a hit will kill quite a few. You might as well disband your other arty besides trebs when bombards come along.

    Cannon
    Attack: vs. troops: 63 vs. buildings: 250 Defence: 8 Armour: 4 Cost: 870 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Timurids, Sicily, Russia, Turks, Egypt, Denmark, Poland

    Cannons have just a tiny bit more range than bombards: 380 vs. the bombards 375. They are the later version of bombards and are very powerful at smashing walls.

    Catapult
    Attack: vs. troops: 55 vs. buildings: 30 Defence: 8 Armour: 4 Cost: 400 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: Spain, France, Timurids, Venice, Sicily, Milan, Scotland, Byzantium, Russia, Turks, Egypt, Portugal, Denmark, Poland, Hungry, Papal States, Mongols, England

    One of the first siege engines youíll use, catapults have a rather short range but can fling large rocks at walls doing allot more damage than ballistae. They work well against walls but large walls will take quite a long time to bash down with catapults. You should use allot of theses early on for your siege needs, but trebuchets longer range and powerful missiles make it much better. Whenever you need a wall beat down though catapults are a fine and easily accessible engine that, given enough time can bash anything down.

    Grand Bombard
    Attack: vs. troops: 55 vs. buildings: 180 Defence: 8 Armour: 4 Cost: 730 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Spain, France, Timurids, Milan, Russia, Turks, Egypt, Portugal

    Grand Bombards are larger versions of bombards available soon after bombards by constructing the next building in the gunsmith line. They do a bit more damage to buildings and have quite a bit more range. They are worth building instead of bombards, but not really enough to disband your current bombards if you canít replace them easily as youíll be moving onto canons soon.

    Culverin
    Attack: vs. troops: 63 vs. buildings: 230 Defence: 8 Armour: 4 Cost: 800 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Spain, France, Venice, Milan, Scotland, Portugal, Papal States, England

    Culverins are much better than bombards. They are more accurate vs. walls and can knock down stone walls in a few shots. Having them for sieges is very handy. They also have a much longer range than bombards

    Monster Bombard
    Attack: Vs troops: 63 Vs buildings: 1000(!) Defence: 9 Armour: 4 Cost: 1900 Upkeep: 400
    Factions: Timurids, Turks

    These massive cannons are the ultimate siege guns, able to breach the biggest of walls in a single shot. They are slow to fire, but there is no other gun more suited to sieges. As youíd imagine this gun isnít a good one to use vs. Troops as itís just too big and inaccurate. They have very high morale, more than other artillery crews so they wonít break. Note that this gun doesnít have a reloading animation unlike the other artillery. When the gun fires it is pushed back and slowly rolls forward again, then the barrel moves forward slowly as well. When the animation finishes, the gun fires again. It has about the same rate of fire as smaller guns, despite its size.

    Mortar
    Attack: vs. troops: 63 Vs buildings:150 Defence: 8 Armour: 4 Cost: 520 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Scotland, Sicily, Venice, Papal States, England

    Mortars are different to other artillery as they fire high into the sky and land on walls rather than being fired at them. This means they can easily arc over walls to hit troops inside settlements and behind obstacles. They arenít very accurate however and not that good at actually destroying walls and their range is less than others. They are cheaper than even basic bombards. They work ok as cheap artillery, but cannons are better.

    Ribault
    Attack: vs. troops: 63 Vs buildings: 5 Defence: 8 Armour: 4 Cost: 400 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Spain, Venice, Sicily, Milan, Scotland, Portugal, Denmark, Poland, Hungry, Papal States, England

    Ribaults are a collection of small tubes mounted together on a carriage. They are fired as one, shelling the target with multiple projectiles. The repeated gunpowder hits wreck morale and they are quite accurate: usually getting at least a few hits every volley. Ribaults have a small range and you should position your troops to the side of a Ribault unless you want them to get nailed when it fires as they canít arc their shots. Ribaults are the most effective artillery vs. troops and nice and cheap.

    Rocket Launcher
    Attack: vs. troops: 63 vs. buildings: 10 Defence: 8 Armour: 4 Cost: 1100 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Timurids, Mongols

    Rocket Launchers are powerful artillery pieces that are unfortunately only available to unplayable factions. They fire a barrage of flaming rockets over a wide area, causing great damage to units caught in the area. Because they fire a collection of projectiles there is a good chance of scoring multiple hits and the flaming nature of the missiles further lowers morale because of the fire attack. A good hit from the rocket launcher will kill10-20 enemies and drastically lower their morale, making it some of the most effective artillery. Remember that this artillery has no minimum range and they are useless against walls.

    Serpentine
    Attack: vs. troops: 63 vs. buildings: 10 Defence: 8 Armour: 4 Cost: 700 Upkeep: 150
    Factions: France, Denmark, Poland, Hungry

    Serpentines have a huge range despite their small size. They are designed for use against troops rather than buildings, as they have a tiny building attack and a decent troop attack. They are notably more accurate than other artillery and their shots will hit in a smaller area, rather than the wide random damage area of larger siege guns. If you want to use artillery against troops this is the gun to use.

    Trebuchet
    Attack: vs. troops: 55 vs. buildings: 90 Defence: 8 Armour: 4 Cost: 430 Upkeep: 250
    Factions: Spain, France, Timurids, Venice, Sicily, Milan, Scotland, Byzantium, Egypt, Portugal, Denmark, Poland, Hungry, Papal States, Mongols, England

    Trebuchets, the most advanced non gunpowder artillery is unique as it has three firing modes. Besides the normal fire mode and flaming missiles it also has the ability to fling half a rotting cow at your enemy. The cow stays on the ground after firing and any enemy troops walking over the cow become sick, signified by their banner flashing green. This lowers their morale threshold by allot. While they may still look like they are on eager morale, after a mÍlťe starts or they are otherwise subjective to morale pressures their morale will fall much more quickly than normal while they are affected by the cow. Anyone who walks over the cow remains on the battlefield will become sick, including your own men if you move them too close. Firing cows is best used on defence where you can fire a few cows in the enemiesí path so they walk over them before the clash with your front line which will make them rout much more quickly. Just donít let your men chase them over the cow if there is more fighting to be done, otherwise you men will become sick and youíll be at a disadvantage.

    As for the more normal modes of the treb it is much more powerful vs. buildings than the catapult and can tear down walls quite quickly, tho large walls will take some work. Not really accurate enough to be worth using against troops except for cows.

    Native troops

    No they arenít pyjamas...

    These troops are the Aztec factionís army. They donít really fit anywhere comfortably, so they get their own section. All Aztec units have little or no armour and all of them are vulnerable to missiles. Aztec units are weak and their advantage is their great numbers as they will always far outnumber you. Individually Aztec units canít stand up to any of the other more advanced factions.

    Arrow Warriors
    Attack: 7 missile attack: 6 Charge: 4 Defence: 11 Armour: 4 Cost: 400

    Arrow Warriors are a javelin unit, tho they do not pierce armour so their missiles arenít a threat and even tho they use a spear like javelin in melee they donít get a bonus vs. cavalry. This is another unit you should, mop up with little effort, particularly with swordsmen since they use spear like weapons.

    Aztec Archers
    Attack: 7 Missile attack: 5 Charge: 1 Defence: 8 Armour: 4 Cost: 370

    The Aztecs archer unit, these are weak archers that shoot poorly, but arenít bad in melee for archers. By the time you can reach the Aztecs youíll have loads of heavily armoured powerful units that will render these archers mostly useless.

    Aztec Peasants
    Attack: 7 Charge: 1 Defence: 4 Armour: 0 Cost: 180

    Aztec Peasants are the toughest peasants in M2TW as they have the best attack for peasants and good defence for peasants. They will of course fall very quickly to your invasion force.

    Aztec Spearmen
    Attack: 7 Charge: 2 Defence: 6 Armour: 0 Cost: 220

    These spearmen are the Aztecs only anti cavalry unit. They are very weak with an average attack but very poor defence and will die very quickly in melee with just about anything. They will do some damage to cavalry but will die quickly to anything else, especially missiles as they completely lack armour.

    Aztec Spear throwers
    Attack: 7 Missile attack: 4 Charge: 1 Defence: 4 Armour: 0 Cost: 220

    This unit is remenisant of RTW skirmisher units as they throw javelins that are not armour piercing, have next to no defence and are cheap disposable fodder. That is exactly what these troops are; they are not a threat at all and will die in seconds. Their missiles are almost harmless.

    Aztec Warriors
    Attack: 9 Charge: 2 Defence: 10 Armour: 4 Cost: 320

    Aztec Warriors are the rank and file of the Aztec armies with decent attack and good defence for the Aztecs. They have average morale and are no match at all for most units from Europe. Engage them with knights or swordsmen and they will die in droves.

    Bodyguard
    Attack: 14 Charge: 3 Defence: 12 Armour: 4 Cost: 410

    This unit is the personal bodyguard of Aztec generals who are of course on foot for this faction. Since the Aztecs lack armour this general is far more vulnerable than any other, so use archers and crossbows to whittle down his guard or just charge it with strong cavalry as they just wield macana clubs and will take allot of losses from a cavalry charge. You should have no problem killing this general, even tho his bodyguard have very good stats.

    Cuahchiqueh
    Attack: 14 Charge: 3 Defence: 12 Armour: 4 Cost: 540

    Cuahchiqueh are the same troops as the ones used for the bodyguard and they should be dealt with in the same way: massed missiles either AP or not and powerful cavalry charges as they are annoyingly good in melee, have very high morale and are impertutious

    Coyote Priests
    Attack: 14 Charge: 3 Defence: 12 Armour: 4 Cost: 480

    Coyote Priests have the ability to chant like RTWís druids, raising the morale of units in the area. They also frighten enemy infantry that are close to them, which is all the more reason to kill them as quickly as possible with missiles or cavalry charges. Try to take out the priests first if you can to remove their morale bonus. They are just as tough as Cuahchiqueh in melee.

    Eagle Warriors
    Attack: 20 Charge: 5 Defence 9 Armour: 4 Cost: 340

    Eagle Warriors are a step above normal warriors in the ranks of the Aztecs but in M2TW they are worthless as they are two handed weapon users affected by the bugs. Their two handed macana clubs act like polearms, which makes them little more than fodder. They have great morale so it will take a while to rout them.

    Jaguar Warrior
    Attack: 14 Charge: 3 Defence: 12 Armour: 4 Cost: 570

    Jaguar Warriors are the Aztec elite, but suck as they use two handed macanas and thus suffer the 2hand bug, just like polearms.

    Peasants and non combatants

    No, itís MY run down village!

    This category has the peasant type units of factions and other units where combat isnít their primary use. Peasants much like the previous games are weak and useful for fodder and as just more bodies to throw at the enemy. M2: TWís Catholic peasants are surprisingly strong however.

    Carroccio Standard
    Attack: 12 Charge: 4 Defence: 16 Armour: 5 Cost: 750 Upkeep: 85
    Factions: Venice, Milan

    The Carroccio Standard is a cart with flags guarded by a small unit of spearmen. These spearmen have very high stats and will never rout. They will fight to the last man no matter what to protect the standard. The standard projects a morale boost around itself making any troops in its vicinity harder to rout.

    The spearmen only have 60 men and while they are tough they will not hold on long if attacked as they are greatly outnumbered. Keep the standard safe. If you alt+right click on an enemy the spearmen will leave the standard to fight and from then on can be moved around normally. If you click on the standard they will reattach to the standard and begin pushing it again. If they are attacked they will detach from the standard to fight.

    Catholic Peasants
    Attack: 4 Charge: 1 Defence: 4 Cost: 110 Upkeep: 90
    Factions: Spain, France, Venice, Milan, Poland, Hungry. Russia, Byzantium

    Catholic Peasants are actually tough for peasants. They have a low attack but not totally useless and enough defence to take a few hits. Their morale, despite being the lowest in the game keeps them in melee till Ĺ of the unit is dead as long as they arenít flanked or anything and they come in handy for fodder or as decoys as they cost virtually nothing. Donít sell peasants short: early on they can have a place in your army as line troops and later they still come in handy as fodder.

    Muslim Peasants
    Attack: 1 Charge: 1 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 90 Upkeep: 90
    Factions: Moors, Turks, Timurids, Egypt

    Muslim Peasants are virtually useless units. They are for whatever reason far weaker than catholic peasants and are very weak. Use them for arrow fodder and to push siege equipment, they are also good for holding troops while you hit them with naptha although tougher yet still cheap troops like Spear Militia would be better for that as they will stay alive long enough to finish your movement or attack.

    Highland Rabble
    Attack: 2 Charge: 1 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 120 Upkeep: 90
    Factions: Scotland

    Highland Rabble are even weaker than Catholic Peasants but they have allot of morale for peasants and the impertutious trait which means moral shocks have less of an effect on them and they will hold for quite a long time even when taking terrible causalities. The combination of great morale and extreme cheapness make these the perfect fodder, able to stay in a fight and hold the enemy even while getting massacred.

    Transylvanian Peasants
    Attack: 5 Charge: 2 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 270 Upkeep: 100
    Factions: Hungry

    Transylvanian Peasants, who are army volunteers would you believe are very different to the majority of peasants. They wield armour piercing polearms but have horrible stats and no armour. They have more morale than most peasants and will hold till a lot of them have been cut down. This unit wonít actually kill many enemies because of the fact polearms suck and their stats are terrible but they can serve as cheap fodder, able to hold an area and dish out some kills of their own for a little while. They are cheap enough to make lots of.

    Crusade troops

    These troops are available only when you create a crusading army.

    Flagellants
    Attack: 10 Charge: 4 Defence: 4 Armour: 0 Cost: 90 Upkeep: 70

    Flagellants are two handed club users so they wonít be killing much of anything tho they have better stats than the other peasant crusader fodder. They have huge morale and are disciplined so they will take allot of punishment before routing

    Pilgrims
    Attack: 2 Charge: 1 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 35 Upkeep: 90

    Pilgrims are even weaker than Catholic Peasants stats wise, but at least they have a knife rather than a pitchfork. These men come in huge numbers, as they are very cheap and there are usually a lot of them available for recruitment when you go on crusade. They are excellent for using to push siege engines and tie up enemies as well as charging in a huge mass to lower enemy morale with their extreme numbers. They are extra useful on crusade because you canít afford to lose too many crusade troops and you can keep more crusaders alive to use after the crusade. They are deceptively useful and you should have at least some in your army and use them to fill spare army slots.

    Crusader Knights
    Attack: 13 Charge: 6 Defence: 17 Armour: 7 Cost: 220 Upkeep: 300

    Crusader Knights are just like Chivalric Knights, except only recruitable though the crusade and much, much cheaper. They have more upkeep however which will make them very expensive indeed to keep around so you might want to hire them when you are only a turn or two from your target.

    Crusader Sergeants
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 14 Armour: 5 Cost: 110 Upkeep: 185

    Crusader Sergeants are the same as Armoured Sergeants that Catholic factions can normally recruit and thus make good filler for a crusading army. Almost every army needs some spears and these men do their job well.

    Religious Fanatics
    Attack: 13 Charge: 6 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 70 Upkeep: 90

    Religious Fanatics are very cheap troops. They use two handed clubs and have no armour and nonexistent defence, but they have a ton of morale and are impetutous so they are almost unroutable. Their two handed weapons makes them pretty useless at actually killing because of the 2hand bug, but their extreme cheapness and their staying power makes them some of the best cannon fodder in M2TWas they can sit in a melee for a long time and hold the enemy, while dishing out their own few kills and they are good troops to fill a stack when you join a crusade

    Jihad troops
    These troops can only be hired on a Jihad and thus only if you are Muslim

    Ghazis
    Attack: 10 Charge: 3 Defence: 7 Armour: 0 Cost: 100 Upkeep: 70

    Ghazis are just like the MTW unit of the same name. They are AP axemen with a good attack but no armour and low defence so they will kill fast and die fast. They are very, VERY cheap and are best used as flankers, as hitting the enemy from behind lessens the chance they will be focused on and killed. They do a good job vs. spearmen and the like but can also cut up armoured troops. You should always get these when you go on a Jihad as they are very cheap and very useful. They are impertutious and have high morale so they wonít be routing anywhere.

    Mutatawwia
    Attack: 13 Charge: 6 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 60 Upkeep: 70

    Mutatawwia are one of the cheapest units in the entire Total War series. They are just like Religious Fanatics except jihad troops instead so hire them if you have some spare space in your stack as they also posses huge morale and are impertutious

    Mercenaries

    Missiles

    Bulgarian Brigands
    Attack: 9 Missile attack: 7 Charge: 1 Defence: 12 Armour: 4 Cost: 660 Upkeep: 150
    Locations: Centre of map

    Bulgarian Brigands, another returning MTW unit are pretty tough archers; they can handle themselves in melee very well for archers and have some armour. Their lack of shields gets them killed quickly, but they work well as high risk archers on the front lines that will see some melee, as they can shoot well and survive some melee action.

    Balkan Archers
    Attack: 2 Missile attack: 5 Charge: 1 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 290 Upkeep: 120
    Locations Centre of map

    These crappy mercs are Peasant Archers with another name. They are very cheap and decent early on but hardly worth the cost except for fodder later. Still massed missile fire is useful, so donít sneer at then if you have some free space.

    Catalans
    Attack: 12 Missile attack: 12 Charge: 4 Defence: 12 Armour: 4 Cost: 720 Upkeep: 180
    Locations: Greece, Venetian lands.

    Catalans are powerful javelin infantry with all round good stats and a powerful missile attack. They will, come in very useful against armoured targets and they can mix it up well in melee with lightly armoured foes. They are the only javelin troops in M2TW that have armour without upgrades, so they can take more abuse than the other javelins. They have insane morale, higher than knights so they will do their duty.

    Free Company Longbowmen
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 6 Charge: 1 Defence: 8 Armour: 5 Cost: 930 Upkeep: 180
    Locations: England, Italy

    While quite rare and hard to find, the fact they are Longbowmen make these very useful mercs indeed. They come in incredibly handy for any faction for combating heavy troops and should always be hired. See the archer section for more information on Longbowmen.

    Mercenary Crossbowmen
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 12 Charge: 1 Defence: 7 Armour: 4 Cost: 860 Upkeep: 180
    Locations: Everywhere

    Mercenary crossbowmen are common mercs and youíll find them all over the place. They are great early on as their wide availability gives you quick access to AP missiles and it can take a little while to get settlements up to where they can start producing crossbowmen. These are always good fillers for an army, tho you should keep them out of melee as they will die very quickly.

    Mercenary Pavise Crossbowmen
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 12 Charge: 1 Defence: 15 Armour: 6 Cost: 930 Upkeep: 180
    Locations: ?

    These are just like recruitable Pasvise Crossbowmen. See the archer section for more. Needless to say these are very useful mercs.

    Armenian Archers
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 7 Charge: 1 Defence: 6 Armour: 0 Cost: 560 Upkeep: 150
    Locations: East of Constanople.

    Armenian Archers are decent archers: they pack a good missile attack but their lack of armour and defence means they should be kept far away from melee.

    Irish Kerns
    Attack: 2 missile attack: 6 Charge: 2 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 380 Upkeep: 125
    Location: Ireland only

    Irish kerns are javelin infantry with all around terrible stats. They have average aim but their melee stats suck severely and you should keep them far away from melee if you want them to stay alive. They are available only in Ireland so you wonít be using them much.

    Welsh Longbowmen
    Attack: 2 Missile attack: 6 Charge: 1 Defence: 1 Armour: 0 Cost: 490 Upkeep: 180
    Locations: England

    Welsh Longbowmen are just as useful as the English basic longbow and its nice as other factions can get access to their power, but they are terrible in melee, featuring the same stats as Peasant Archers so keep them behind a nice line of spearmen.

    Cavalry

    Alan Light Cavalry
    Attack: 11 Charge: 5 Defence: 13 Armour: 4 Cost: 830 Upkeep: 250

    Alan Light Cavalry are quite powerful for light cavalry: they have good attack for their class, good defence and are lightly armoured. It hardly matters though, as they are extremely expensive and have ridiculous upkeep, as much as knights! Donít bother with these units as their cost isnít worth it.

    Bedouin Cavalry
    Attack: 9 Charge: 4 Defence: 9 Armour: 0 Cost: 630 Upkeep: 180
    Locations: South East of map

    Bedouin Cavalry are very light cavalry with a decent attack but no armour and low defence. They are ok for chasing routers and attacking archers and missile units but too light to be useful for anything else. They arenít really worth their cost.

    Armenian cavalry
    Attack: 10 Charge: 6 Defence: 16 Armour: 7 Cost: 1080 Upkeep: 300
    Locations: East of Constantinople.

    Armenian Cavalry are heavy cavalry, tho their attack isnít anything to shout about. They have average defence and armour and cost a stupid amount in upkeep. This is another merc that isnít that great as even knights are cheaper and isnít worth its cost. They can fill the role of heavy cavalry adequately if you need it however.

    Serbian Hussars
    Attack: 13 Charge: 6 Defence: 15 Armour: 5 Cost: 1030 Upkeep: 250
    Locations: East Europe

    Serbian Hussars are powerful medium cavally. They have a great attack equal to knights and the same huge morale, though they arenít impetutous they are like slightly less durable knights, despite being more expensive. If you are a faction that doesnít get knights or you need powerful cavalry these will be very useful. They have huge upkeep so donít leave them standing around.

    Mercenary Frankish Knights
    Attack: 10 Charge: 6 Defence: 16 Armour: 7 Cost: 1080 Upkeep: 300
    Locations: Spain

    Merc Frankish Knights are exactly like Feudal Knights and should be used in the same way.

    Mercenary German Knights
    Attack: 8 Charge: 7 Defence: 16 Armour: 9 Cost: 950 Upkeep: 300
    Locations: Central Europe and England

    Merc German Knights have a low attack for knights, though their defence is average for them. Their morale is also much lower than most knights: the same as most trained troops: 5 compared to the knights 9 or 11. They are still very expensive despite the fact they are weaker than most knights. This is balanced however by the fact they use a secondary AP mace making them powerful against other knights and heavy cavalry. Despite this, their lower morale is a major weakness.

    Serbian Knights
    Attack: 13 Charge: 8 Defence: 16 Armour: 8 Cost: 1320 Upkeep: 300
    Locations: Eastern Europe

    Serbian Knights are powerful with a great attack and powerful charge, their defence is the norm for knights and they are heavily armoured making them everything a knight should be and very useful cavalry. They are however the most expensive knights in the game and their high upkeep also doesnít help. Only hire these knights if you are rolling in money.

    Spearmen

    Flemish Pikemen
    Attack: 9 Charge: 3 Defence: 8 Armour: 5 Cost: 340 Upkeep: 155
    Regions: Central Europe in French lands.

    Flemish Pikemen actually have armour unlike most pikemen and have a decent attack tho their defence is still very low and with the pike glitches they really arenít worth recruiting except to fill stacks.

    Mercenary Spearmen
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 14 Armour: 5 Cost: 660 Upkeep: 185
    Locations: Everywhere

    These are basically the mercenary version of Armoured Sergeants and as a result are always handy. You always need spearmen in an army and they are cheap so hire them before you attack. They have good morale and will hold until most of them are dead, unless they are surrounded.

    Slav Mercenaries
    Attack: 5 Charge: 2 Defence: 7 Armour: 0 Cost: 350 Upkeep: 150
    Locations: Centre of map

    Slav Mercs are exactly the same as Spear Militia and should be used as such. Their price is hardly any different either. They are not great fighters but serve as good filler for stacks, giving you more numbers and expendable troops.

    Welsh Spearmen
    Attack: 7 Charge: 3 Defence: 6 Armour: 0 Cost: 470 Upkeep: 150
    Locations: England

    Welsh Spearmen are like slightly stronger Spear Militia and have low stats and no armour. They have the same morale as Sergeant Spearmen and serve well as filler like Slav Mercenaries.

    Infantry

    Galloglaich
    Attack: 17 Charge: 6 Defence: 9 Armour: 4 Cost: 830 Upkeep: 180
    Locations: Ireland only

    Galloglaich are broken 2 handed axemen and shouldnít be used.

    Sudanese Tribesmen
    Attack: 13 Charge: 3 Defence: 8 Armour: 0 Cost: 440 Upkeep: 155
    Locations: South of map in desert provinces

    These mercs are just another unit of swordsmen. They have a very good attack, but their defence is low so they will die quickly. Use them as flankers and keep them out of missile fire.

    Tlaxcalan Mercenaries
    Attack: 9 Charge: 2 Defence: 10 Armour: 4 Cost: 400 Upkeep: 125
    Locations: The new world only

    Artillery

    Mercenary Monster Bombard
    Attack: vs. troops: 63 vs. buildings: 1000(!) Charge: 0 Defence: 9 Armour: 4 Cost: 1900 Upkeep: 400
    Locations: East Europe (rare)

    Merc Monster Bombards are just like the Turkís Monster Bombard and are thus incredibly useful to have at a siege since the biggest of walls crumbles uselessly under their onslaught they are EXPENISVE however (do they fire solid gold cannonballs??) as they have a ridiculous upkeep and their hire cost is very expensive indeed. If you can afford to keep them around they will be worth their weight in gold in sieges. Just make sure to protect them well. You never really need this unit as sieges are possible with any artillery or just with a wall assault but Monster Bombards are fun so hire them if you want them.

    Missile cavalry

    Akinjis
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 6 Charge: 2 Defence: 3 Armour: 0 Cost: 620 Upkeep: 150
    Locations: South east of map

    Akinjis are very basic horse archers that are weak in melee with very low defence and no armour. They are only average at shooting but are useful for factions that canít recruit horse archers. They are impertutious so even tho their morale is low they have much more staying power than their morale would indicate. They are very expensive for a pretty weak unit so only get them if you really need them or are rolling in money.

    Cuman Horse Archers
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 6 Charge: 2 Defence: 3 Armour: 0 Cost: 620 Upkeep: 180
    Location: North East Europe

    These are exactly like Akinjis and should be avoided unless needed. They cost more in upkeep too.

    Mounted Crossbowmen
    Attack: 7 Missile attack: 5 Charge: 2 Defence: 10 Armour: 5 Cost: 470 Upkeep: 175
    Factions: Everywhere

    Mounted Crossbows are very useful mercs as mobile armour piercing missiles are always useful. They are cheap too.

    Turkopoles
    Attack: 6 Missile attack: 6 Charge: 2 Defence: 10 Armour: 4 Cost: 720 Upkeep: 210
    Locations: All along the south of the map

    Turkopoles are better than some weaker horse archers in melee, tho they should still be kept far away from it as they will die fast. They shoot averagely and cost allot of money for a weak unit so again stay away from them unless you really want them.
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    they arn't useless

    polearms are very good if you have ever played the historical battle of angicourt you will get a whole new respect for them. same goes for pikes if you played pavia.
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    Wait when was I trying to troll?
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    Thanks guys but you should read my pdf in my sig if you want the proper version. This thread version is so it can be put in the scriptorium. Pasting it from word ruins the formatting tho when i get time i have to fix it so it can be put in there.
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    Death animations: In M2TW a unit’s solider count goes down after the dying man has finished his death animation. Until then the causality doesn’t affect morale. This is different to Rome where as soon as a man died before he even hit the ground he was considered dead with the effects that went with it. This means that unit may take a second or two more to rout or otherwise react to something.
    Does that mean if the battle ends and a guy is in the animation he won't die?
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    no he will die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor of The Great Unknown View Post
    they arn't useless

    polearms are very good if you have ever played the historical battle of angicourt you will get a whole new respect for them. same goes for pikes if you played pavia.
    Those polearms are three gold chevrons vs green troops and they still lose a ton. polearms suck tho they are much better in Britannia.

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    Can we post now? GREAT job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sumaznguy View Post
    Well I looked at the pdf version. also no shield values.
    I don't have them i didn't in RTWs guide either. instead i had whenever the unit had a small or large shield and i kept that format for this tho it sort of got neglected. The m2tw guide still needs some cooking. I tend to update my guides alot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Double A View Post
    Does that mean if the battle ends and a guy is in the animation he won't die?
    Id assume he would since the unit solider count doesn't go down until they collapse and it doesn't effect morale. just watch some peasants get charged they get hit half the unit dies then they fight for a second or two more till the casualties taker effect on the unit solider count and boom rout.
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    finaly finished editing it its ready for the scriptorium

    It sucks this forum has so few colours i had to use my old rtw colour style.
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