DimeBagHo has locked down a lot of threads on the first page of the Mudpit because the OP provided insufficient basis for discussion. Is this a coincidence or is moderation becoming more strict in the Mudpit?
If there is a discussion going on it shouldn't be closed just because the OP didn't happent o be good enough. The forum is supposed to be there for discussion and fun not just randomly holding OP to arbitrary standards. If there isn't any discussion from a mediocre OP then fine close it otherwise its just crapping all over an ongoing discussion and unfortunately once closed a thread is rarely redone.
One of those threads had 14 replies and was going somewhere. Two others were building with 5 replies. A little over zealous on Dime's part I think.
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Nothing wrong with those thread closures. Out of the 5, all were one liners with a copy-paste article. 4 out of 5 had a "" emocon and the other one had a "" (at the end of the bad joke one liner). Not the kind of OP's we are looking for in the D&D. Yes some joking is acceptable if it was accompanied by at least a paragraph of serious discussion in the OP. Those were not.
Has moderation forgotten that discussion and debate is about duscussion and debate. Hell just simply posting an article with no comment can spawn a decent discussion or debate but we dont allow that because...because....STANDARDS! Actually no that isnt right because standards are things like not allowing leet speak and other things that would impede or lower the tone of discussion, anything which starts a d
Good discussion on the topic in the relevant fora ahould be allowed.
Lets drop the random assignation of standards on the OP because it isnt helping.
Spam begets spam. Those discussion weren't headed anywhere when they were closed, they attracted more spam one liner responses and a few more that needed to be removed. I don't disagree that if good discussion broke out from a bad OP that the thread would most likely remain open. Out of those closed on the front page of the mudpit I can only see one that I could 'possibly' make a case for to be re-opened. Which one(s) in particular do you see as good discussion that should be re-opened?
I would agree with you Denny but then we both would be wrong.
Close threads for starting flame wars, close threads where the OP merely says Derp, but not ones with serious articles or videos that people want to share
The standards aren't exactly arbitrary, probably just not well known. The problem is that not everyone reads that very important thread. Those rules are essentially binding thanks to this curial decision. So the problem here isn't an arbitrary set of rules, I think, but inconsistency in enforcement. Essentially individual moderators choose whether or not they want to enforce the debate guidelines because they exist in a gray area to be sure. They aren't technically part of the ToS but they are important to ensure quality control. So either there needs to be consistent and fair enforcement of these guidelines or they need to not be enforced at all methinks.
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Well it is also a matter of how the discussion is. For instance, a person cannot just every time write paragraph after paragraph. Sometimes things would start from maybe 5 liner OPs. But the important part is to see where the discussion goes. Personally, I think there would not be a reason to close it unless there the thread is devoid of healthy discussion.
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That is still an arbitrary decision based upon what you consider to be healthy or not.Personally, I think there would not be a reason to close it unless there the thread is devoid of healthy discussion.
Which is what Jom said, unless I'm mistaken.
Of course you have a problem whereby if the OP is shoddy, the thread might not be as specific (or it might be too specific/deliberately biased) as is needed to actually get people into the discussion.
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