Hunting: Barbaric and Disgusting?

**Copperknickers II** · June 25, 2009, 04:54 PM

Most of you have probably seen this story before. It is things like this that make me wonder if the US really deserves its status as a First World Country.

Anyone with any sense of human decency and morality must surely feel physically sick when reading this. Here is an extract, reworked slightly but all the details are true:

Ra "10 year-old Fern Spaulding-River from Talkeetna, Alaska has already ended the lives of several Alaska's major mammal species. Fern was bear hunting on the Alaskan Peninsula with her father and mother on May 10th. In her hand, this small innocent looking girl carried a huge sniper rifle. As the day progressed she and her father saw 11 bears. At one point, they were stupid enough to get charged by a wolf. Later, they spotted a big brown in a gully. Fern asked Larry to hold her legs steady while she shot because her knees were shaking from bloodlust. Fern missed the head and hit the bear in the spine, causing the majestic animal to spasm in excruciating pain, but the helpless victim regained it's footing and tore off desperately across the tundra. Shooting again from a prone position, Fern murdered the animal with a second, also badly placed, shot. The United States Fish and Wildlife Service measured the bear's hide at 11'4" from nose to tail. What does Fern think of bear hunting? "It's kinda scary, but its dying roar was imrpessive! They are about the size of a Volkswagen bus and when they swing their head to look your way they remind you of a T-Rex in Jurassic Park!""

Fern is disgusting example of the human race, and her parents are savages to teach a young girl to kill majestic animals such as bears for sheer pleasure. Young children should not be allowed a gun at all, and noone should be allowed to end the life of an animal, unless for food or in extreme circumstances, and then only in a painless and humaniatian manner. It is my view that people who would cripple a helpless animal going about its business by shooting it in the spine are worthless barbarians. This is the kind of thing that happened 300 years ago, we have progressed far enough by now to know that we should respect nature, and only use what we need to survive.

Thoughts?

**HansDuet** · June 25, 2009, 04:57 PM

Sometimes, needed.

Moose population of Finland.

And I don't really have that much emotions towards animals TBH. I do like canines though.

**Last Roman** · June 25, 2009, 04:59 PM

well, it can be "barbaric", or it can be clean sport. So I wont be voting on this poll.

**Barry Goldwater** · June 25, 2009, 05:01 PM

Sometimes it's retarded, at other times it's a clean sport, and in some cases it's necessary.

That poll is clearly unbiased BTW, almost as objective as Wua'hi'walu's.

**Copperknickers II** · June 25, 2009, 05:04 PM

The poll is extra, it is the issues i am concerned with.

In what way is hunting 'clean'? I make the distinction here between hunting and culling, culling is not for pleasure ( i hope ).

**Tspk91** · June 25, 2009, 05:06 PM

I think that if you created a less biased poll (and i am more for the barbaric definition) this would be a good thread. But you didnt.

**DimondLight** · June 25, 2009, 05:08 PM

I see nothing wrong with hunting as long as you eat the meat, and not do it just to kill.

**GuineaPig** · June 25, 2009, 05:21 PM

What's wrong with hunting?

**Copperknickers II** · June 25, 2009, 05:24 PM

Did anyone read the first post?

**hellheaven1987** · June 25, 2009, 05:28 PM

Ya, I wonder since when you are such a pacifist.

**magickyleo101** · June 25, 2009, 05:30 PM

How I feel about killing any animal depends where the pleasure is coming from for the person. If they're getting the pleasure out of killing the animal - in other words, if they're killing the animal for the sake of killing the animal - then they're probably a sociopath.

On the other hand, if they're doing it for food and the animal's death is a means to that end, I see a far smaller need for concern. The same thing if they're doing it as part of their job.

**Markas** · June 25, 2009, 05:32 PM

I hunt only if I intend to eat the thing I've shot. I find it more morally justifiable than eating something from the supermarket, actually.

As for the OP, the Bear population isn't threatened as far as I know. Yes, they are majestic creatures but they are dangerous when living around human settlements so some culling is unfortunately neccessary.

**Bongfu** · June 25, 2009, 05:35 PM

I choose

"A necessary survival tool that is still prevalent today."

Any idea what the white tail deer population would be like in North America if no body hunted them? We would have to put plows on the front of our cars because they would be EVERYWHERE

**Nazgûl Killer** · June 25, 2009, 05:37 PM

I highly dislike hunting, yes, but the poll is completely biased and this seems like just another rant or trolling thread, please, just open a thread that states an OPINION, instead of saying "Does it suck, or does it suck?"

Anyways, I hate hunting, it makes me feel disgust.
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**Aetius** · June 25, 2009, 05:38 PM

Hunting for the lulz is wasteful.

Killing bears is never needed, because predator populations correct themselves very quickly due to lack of food. I could understand killing a bear if it was stealing your food or sniffing around your house at night.

Hunt herbavores, and then try to eat much of the meat as you can or give it away. At the very least take the best bits and let scavengers take the rest but be like the Indians and kill when you must only.

**HansDuet** · June 25, 2009, 05:40 PM

No its not gross. Natural.

For someone who's actually cut animals from their meat.

**CtrlAltDe1337** · June 25, 2009, 05:42 PM

This has to be the stupidest thread I have seen in a few weeks

Overhunting is a problem, yes, but there is nothing wrong with hunting.

**Helm** · June 25, 2009, 05:43 PM

I can't really vote either way because I eat meat, at least if you shoot it yourself you know what you shot had a good free range life it wasn't confined to a cage or whatever. Shooting something just for fun I'm not sure if I approve of that.