Red Turban Rebellion

[Shadowcry]

How will rebellions play out? I want to see when a country or nation focuses too much attention on starting wars or such or not taking care of the people rebellions breaking out. For one thing many empires were reaching the end of their age such as the Song and Jin dynasties. Will there be religious rebellions, eunuchs usurping power, intrigue etc?

Maybe even a red turban rebellion unit???

[yevon]

how can have red turban rebellion in the Song Empire????

[jalen911]

．．．．．．．　Red Turban Rebellion broken in AD1351 and Song was be replace by Yuan in AD1279.

[Augustus Lucifer]

There will definitely be organized rebellions. We are not going to limit ourselves to the way history played out necessarily. You can expect that a Song player will have to deal with dissidence for much of the start of their campaign. More will be mentioned about this in upcoming previews, so I won't say more here.

[STELLover]

There will definitely be organized rebellions. We are not going to limit ourselves to the way history played out necessarily. You can expect that a Song player will have to deal with dissidence for much of the start of their campaign. More will be mentioned about this in upcoming previews, so I won't say more here.

So I will expect like a event and multiple armies spawining from the location from where the event happens?

[Augustus Lucifer]

So I will expect like a event and multiple armies spawining from the location from where the event happens?

Potentially. The end goal will be to present a few different scenarios ranging in impact and specifications. So one game things might happen that cause a little local sect uprising, while in another maybe the little sect uprising spread faster and became a full blown rebellion, while in another maybe it never happened at all but consequently it happens later. What I don't want to have happen is events with only one possible outcome. Ideally it will be based on policies of the player coupled with random chance so every game is a bit different.

[STELLover]

Potentially. The end goal will be to present a few different scenarios ranging in impact and specifications. So one game things might happen that cause a little local sect uprising, while in another maybe the little sect uprising spread faster and became a full blown rebellion, while in another maybe it never happened at all but consequently it happens later. What I don't want to have happen is events with only one possible outcome. Ideally it will be based on policies of the player coupled with random chance so every game is a bit different.

Right- thats takes into concideration for a lot of things

[Shadowcry]

That is awesome to hear! No more static games haha or empires growing immensely that never fall!
Good to hear that rebellions will play a major dynamic role!

[crusader knight]

here information about the red turbant rebellion
"White Lotus Revolution" redirects here. For the Chinese uprising against the Qing Dynasty, see White Lotus Rebellion.
The Red Turban Rebellion (Chinese: 紅巾起義 Hóngjīn Qǐyì) was an uprising much influenced by the White Lotus Society members that targeted the ruling Yuan Dynasty.
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• <LI class=toclevel-1>1 Causes <LI class=toclevel-1>2 The Red Turban Army <LI class=toclevel-1>3 Conclusion
• 4 Footnotes

[edit] Causes

Since the 1340s, the Mongol-ruled Yuan Dynasty was experiencing problems. The Yellow River flooded constantly, and other natural disasters also occurred. At the same time, the Yuan Dynasty required considerable military expenditure to maintain its vast empire. This was solved mostly through additional taxation that fell mainly on the Han Chinese population which constituted the lowest two castes in the four castes of the people under the Yuan Dynasty.[1]

[edit] The Red Turban Army

The Red Turban Army (紅巾軍) was originally started by the followers of White Lotus (白蓮教) and Manichaeism (摩尼教) to resist the Mongols. The name "Red Turban" was used because of their tradition of using red banners and wearing red turbans to distinguish themselves.
These rebellions began on a sporadic basis, firstly on the coast of Zhejiang (浙江), when Fang Guozhen (a Han) and his men assaulted a group of Yuan officials. After that, the White Lotus society led by Han Shantong (韓山童) in the north of the Yellow River became the centre of anti-Mongol sentiment. Few of the rebellion groups made overtures to the Korean Kingdom of Goryeo, technically a tributary ally of the Yuan Dynasty. Though initially successful, they were eventually expelled by the Goryeo army lead by Choe Yeong and Yi Seonggye.
In 1351, the society plotted an armed rebellion, but the plan was disclosed and Han Shantong was arrested and executed by the Yuan Government. After his death, Liu Futong (劉福通), a prominent member of the White Lotus, assisted Han's son, Han Lin'er (韓林兒), to succeed his father and establish the Red Turban Army. After that, several other Han rebels in the south of the Yangtze River revolted under the name of the Southern Red Turbans. Among the key leaders of the Southern Red Turbans were Xu Shouhui (徐壽輝) and Chen Youliang (陳友諒).

[edit] Conclusion

Main article: Hongwu Emperor
One of the more significant Red Turban leaders was Zhu Yuanzhang. At first, he followed Guo Zixing, and in fact later married Guo's daughter. After Guo's death, Zhu was seen as the leader of the rebellion and took over Guo's army.
Between 1356 and 1367, Zhu began a series of campaigns seeking to defeat his opponents in the Red Turbans. At first, he nominally supported Han Liner to stabilize his northern frontier. Then he defeated his rivals Chen Youliang, Zhang Shicheng and Fang Guozhen one by one. After rising to dominance, he drowned Han Liner. Calling for a racial revolution to overthrow the Mongols and restore the Han Chinese, Zhu gained popular support.
In 1368, Zhu Yuanzhang proclaimed himself emperor in Yintian, historically known as the Hongwu Emperor of the Ming Dynasty. The next year, the Ming Army captured Dadu, and the rule of Yuan Dynasty was officially over. China was unified again.
hi

[Wundai]

Just a question from a non-historian here, but which rebellion was the one with the Taiping Rebels? (The Warlords)

[Shadowcry]

That was in the 1850s and 60s under Hong xiu Quan who failed his examinations then went on to have religious visions. Building a rebellion upon the Hakka community and peasant grievances against the Qing, his rebellion fused Chrisitanity and the native Chinese religion into a new sect. While initially very staunch puritan, his successes made him more debauched and decadent. Was quashed by Qing soldiers with the slight assistance of the West.

[Wundai]

Ok thanks for the information