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    Default The Tower of Babel, did it exist ?

    Did it exist ? Thats the question we all ask.
    Tower of Babel info Read it or just a part and then vote.



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    Default Re: The Tower of Babel, did it exist ?

    100% yes the Biblical Tower of Babel existed.
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    Default Re: The Tower of Babel, did it exist ?

    You mean the Biblical version of the Babel tower with the origins of languages etc? no of course it didn't
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    Default Re: The Tower of Babel, did it exist ?

    Not in biblical meaning...

    Some random ziggurat, sure.


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    Default Re: The Tower of Babel, did it exist ?

    Yes, a tower probably did exist that was much taller than any civilization had previously built, but not on the immense scale the Bible describes (something like 1 mile high scholars think?). There probably was a big Ziggurat that was built after a huge flood (many scholars believe the Noah story to be an actual historical flood in Mesopotamia). The tower is, in my mind, undoubtedly real; the story that accompanies it is another thing though.
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    Default Re: The Tower of Babel, did it exist ?

    110% Not. No way in Hell they could build a mile high structure back then, espeically not with the inferior materials they had. If you really believe in this, well then you fail at physics and science... The Babel Tower would of cause have been a large building if it existed, but as in the Bible? No, just no.

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    Default Re: The Tower of Babel, did it exist ?

    herodotus described it as an 8 floors ziggurat, with a temple at the top.. could babylon had a massive ziggurat? yes

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    Default Re: The Tower of Babel, did it exist ?

    Of course it could, just not as big as the Bible says it was. The historical Babel (assuming it exists) would probably just be a huge ziggurat.

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    Default Re: The Tower of Babel, did it exist ?

    bible and torah exaggerated on sizing for sure... bigger it was, bigger sins Babylon rapresented.. it's a sort of ancient religious propaganda

    layers could've been tall 2.5/3 metres each, except the first two

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    Default Re: The Tower of Babel, did it exist ?

    The bible doesn't say anything about the size of the tower, I don't know where people are getting a mile from.

    As whether it existed or not, who knows? There isn't any evidence of it outside of religious texts so I'd lean towards no, but the story might have come from some actual structure involved in some conflict who's story has been mythologized over the ages. I'd say no, but I voted "Don't know".

    On a side note, god is a real jerk in the Tower of Babel story. I mean, what the hell? He sees how everyone is cooperating and getting things done so he decides to mess up everyone’s languages to stop people from working together and getting along. That's a real jerk move there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old_Scratch View Post
    The bible doesn't say anything about the size of the tower, I don't know where people are getting a mile from.

    As whether it existed or not, who knows? There isn't any evidence of it outside of religious texts so I'd lean towards no, but the story might have come from some actual structure involved in some conflict who's story has been mythologized over the ages. I'd say no, but I voted "Don't know".

    On a side note, god is a real jerk in the Tower of Babel story. I mean, what the hell? He sees how everyone is cooperating and getting things done so he decides to mess up everyone’s languages to stop people from working together and getting along. That's a real jerk move there.
    The Book of Jubilees mentions the tower's height as being 5433 cubits and 2 palms, or nearly 2.5 kilometers (about 1.55 miles).
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    Default Re: The Tower of Babel, did it exist ?

    I'm almost sure it did existed. I think mythology has its roots in legends which have their roots in true historical events (cfr. the biblical flood and the end of the Ice Age when coastal areas flooded).

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    Default Re: The Tower of Babel, did it exist ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Old_Scratch View Post

    On a side note, god is a real jerk in the Tower of Babel story. I mean, what the hell? He sees how everyone is cooperating and getting things done so he decides to mess up everyone’s languages to stop people from working together and getting along. That's a real jerk move there.
    Well, they were subverting his authority!

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    Default Re: The Tower of Babel, did it exist ?

    Probably some Hebrew traveled to Mesopotamia and his stories about "huge towers that reach the heavens" were taken too literally.
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    Default Re: The Tower of Babel, did it exist ?

    Thing is that even if there was a massive structure back then, I don't see any relation with the whole origin of different languages story. It would be just a random explanation for a big building that your grandfather help build. I don't get it. Any ideas?

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    Default Re: The Tower of Babel, did it exist ?

    just a huge ziggurat.. no 2 miles skyscraper or whateva.. bible says a lot of ... jericho's wall reducing to rubble thanks to the magic hand of G W Bush

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius Tosi View Post
    The Book of Jubilees mentions the tower's height as being 5433 cubits and 2 palms, or nearly 2.5 kilometers (about 1.55 miles).
    Jubilees isn't in the bible, but I guess that's where the mile thing is coming from. The bible itself gives no dimensions though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfcp11 View Post
    Well, they were subverting his authority!

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    They were doing nothing of the sort. Look through Genesis 11, god just didn't want them to work together or accomplish anything great.

    Yeah, sorry about the formatting, IE went screwy for a bit there and I had to write it in Word.

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    Given that great engineering and construction feats have been accomplished all throughout the ancient world, I find it hard to beleive an argument that says no way it could have never been done, it was simply immpossible. Ever heard of Circus Maximus? It was a type of racing stadium in ancient Rome that could seat upto 500'000 people. Even in modern engineering we don't get stadiums that big. So if the Romans could make the worlds largest ever foot ball stadium, then I don't see why the Babalyonians couldn't make a big ass tower. Given that all the evidence we do have about it is generally biblical scripture, and given that the various translations of the scriptures haven't been to romanticised over the centuries. It was more then likely an exaggerated story anyway as was typically common for those times, but as the popularist front in this thread has stated. It was more then likely a slightly larger then normal ziggurat or temptle of sorts. So was the tower of babel real? Possibally, did it reach the heavens? Most possibally not I would think. SE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalins_Elite View Post
    Ever heard of Circus Maximus? It was a type of racing stadium in ancient Rome that could seat upto 500'000 people. Even in modern engineering we don't get stadiums that big. So if the Romans could make the worlds largest ever foot ball stadium, then I don't see why the Babalyonians couldn't make a big ass tower.
    Circus' a chase apart. it's 621m long and 118m large.. u could've contained even 1 million people in there

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    Default Re: The Tower of Babel, did it exist ?

    I feel it was most likely an allegory. But I can't say for certain if something similar to the Biblical tower was or was not built at some point.

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